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[fatso]

Crazy how your daughter who knows you so well would just come out with that stuff.

Its systematic of the new age young labour voters apparently.
She also has never met or spoken to any of my colleagues, some of whome are young, some female, some non white, and yet she referred to them all in the same way.

It would appear that some labour voters carry an abundance of anger and hate.

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Its systematic of the new age young labour voters apparently.
She also has never met or spoken to any of my colleagues, some of whome are young, some female, some non white, and yet she referred to them all in the same way.

It would appear that some labour voters carry an abundance of anger and hate.

Nothing like smearing a whole group in the same way you dislike your colleagues being smeared

 

[fatso]

Nothing like smearing a whole group in the same way you dislike your colleagues being smeared

I think you need to re-read my post.
I clearly and very deliberately put "some"
Labour voters.
I thought I had made that point clearly enough.

 

[Nick]

Is she fit though?

 

[PVA]

Is she fit though?

Did Grendel give you permission to post his video?

 

[Nick]

Did Grendel give you permission to post his video?

I filmed it myself at a sleepover so I can do what I want with it.

 

[fatso]

I filmed it myself at a sleepover so I can do what I want with it.

And what exactly did you have to do to make Grendel so happy?

 

[PVA]

And what exactly did you have to do to make Grendel so happy?

Probably best we don't find out!

 

[Nick]

And what exactly did you have to do to make Grendel so happy?

Just the standard "Don't forget about the balls".

 

[skybluetony176]

Listening to Steve’s favourite radio broadcaster earlier and it seems that (not that I think it changed the result for a minute) there was a Facebook campaign led by local tories that the Labour candidate for Hartlepool was anti NHS.

The Labour candidate is also a local GP and part of the local NHS management and had to choose in 2013 what cuts were going to be made when the Tories cut their budget. Wasn’t sold like that on Facebook though. It was his cuts not Tory cuts. Just goes to show what a post truth society we live in.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

The silent Tories are out today. Let us know what makes them so attractive to you?

Fuck all wrong with voting Tory, let people do what they want

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Its systematic of the new age young labour voters apparently.
She also has never met or spoken to any of my colleagues, some of whome are young, some female, some non white, and yet she referred to them all in the same way.

It would appear that some labour voters carry an abundance of anger and hate.

Its the way they judge anybody with a different opinion and that doesn't vote labour

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I think you need to re-read my post.
I clearly and very deliberately put "some"
Labour voters.
I thought I had made that point clearly enough.

After ‘it is systematic of new age Labour voters’

 

[Skybluefaz]

Fuck all wrong with voting Tory, let people do what they want

I haven't said people should vote for any party in particular. I am interested in what is so appealing to that party in particular. What is it that does it for you?

 

[chiefdave]

And yet neither myself or any one of my colleagues who expressed an opinion voted for Corbyn.
When I expressed this to my Corbyn voting daughter, she said it was because we are all white, middleaged, racist, bnp supporting gammons (whatever that is)

Out of interest when you all didn't vote Labour because of Corbyn did you vote Conservative? If so what was it that attracted your vote? And now that Corbyn is gone has your vote returned to Labour?

Fuck all wrong with voting Tory, let people do what they want

Absolutely agree people can do what they want. However the question has been repeatedly asked in recent weeks what it is about the Conservatives that makes people vote for them and so far the answers have been lots of reasons to not vote Labour and nothing about why the Conservatives appeal.

 

[chiefdave]

Listening to Steve’s favourite radio broadcaster earlier and it seems that (not that I think it changed the result for a minute) there was a Facebook campaign led by local tories that the Labour candidate for Hartlepool was anti NHS.

The Labour candidate is also a local GP and part of the local NHS management and had to choose in 2013 what cuts were going to be made when the Tories cut their budget. Wasn’t sold like that on Facebook though. It was his cuts not Tory cuts. Just goes to show what a post truth society we live in.

I've had things through the door every day for the Conservatives. One generic leaflet from Labour that just listed all their Coventry candidates, nothing specific to where I live. And nothing at all from the other parties. I had to google who was standing!

Same on Facebook, multiple daily posts from the Conservatives, nothing from anyone else. Interestingly the tactics were similar to those you mention, promises to fix things that are the fault of the Conservative government.

 

[TomRad85]

Out of interest when you all didn't vote Labour because of Corbyn did you vote Conservative? If so what was it that attracted your vote? And now that Corbyn is gone has your vote returned to Labour?

Absolutely agree people can do what they want. However the question has been repeatedly asked in recent weeks what it is about the Conservatives that makes people vote for them and so far the answers have been lots of reasons to not vote Labour and nothing about why the Conservatives appeal.

Another thing wrong with Labour voters these days, they think people owe them an explanation of why they voted a certain way. No one owes you anything.

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[eastwoodsdustman]

Labour were told by the electorate that they don't listen to the public and then decide to put a Remain candidate in a brexit hotspot and wonder why they lose the seat.
In plain terms people can justify brexit on the back of the vaccine roll out compared to whats gone on in europe and feel justified. It's strengthened Johnsons position no end. He said he'd get Brexit done and has, whether he wanted it or not, and he's the one that's done what the people wanted no what he thinks they wanted.

I've had things through the door every day for the Conservatives. One generic leaflet from Labour that just listed all their Coventry candidates, nothing specific to where I live. And nothing at all from the other parties. I had to google who was standing!

Same on Facebook, multiple daily posts from the Conservatives, nothing from anyone else. Interestingly the tactics were similar to those you mention, promises to fix things that are the fault of the Conservative government.

We've had the same. To be honest they know they'll always get in in Coventry so don't waste the paper and printing. And true to form they have.

 

[skybluetony176]

Another thing wrong with Labour voters these days, they think people owe them an explanation of why they voted a certain way. No one owes you anything.

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Why do you take such exception to being asked such a simple question? What’s the worst that could happen? More Labour voters are convinced to vote Tory because your reasoning is so logical?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Labour were told by the electorate that they don't listen to the public and then decide to put a Remain candidate in a brexit hotspot and wonder why they lose the seat.
In plain terms people can justify brexit on the back of the vaccine roll out compared to whats gone on in europe and feel justified. It's strengthened Johnsons position no end. He said he'd get Brexit done and has, whether he wanted it or not, and he's the one that's done what the people wanted no what he thinks they wanted.

We've had the same. To be honest they know they'll always get in in Coventry so don't waste the paper and printing. And true to form they have.

Had a lot of heavy canvassing from the Greens and Labour here. What is novel though is the candidate visiting you after you vote to criticise you for not voting for them.

 

[PVA]

Seems to have been missed amongst the election results but there was another fire in a block of flats today that has the same cladding as Grenfell.

The government said all such cladding would be removed by June 2020. In a shocking turn of events they didn't meet this deadline.

CONS +8

 

[Skybluefaz]

Another thing wrong with Labour voters these days, they think people owe them an explanation of why they voted a certain way. No one owes you anything.

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What a fun riddle. 'Labour don't listen to us!' 'We don't want to tell them anything!'.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Lib Dems take 3 Leamington seats, 3 left

 

[skybluetony176]

Seems to have been missed amongst the election results but there was another fire in a block of flats today that has the same cladding as Grenfell.

The government said all such cladding would be removed by June 2020. In a shocking turn of events they didn't meet this deadline.

CONS +8

That’s so strange. Boris normally delivers on his promises.

 

[TomRad85]

What a fun riddle. 'Labour don't listen to us!' 'We don't want to tell them anything!'.

I don't want them to listen to me mate, couldn't give a shit. Some people are just conservative, that's the way it is.
As for the people that have left Labour, as I say, no one owes you an explanation, its up to the party to figure out why they are about as popular as a testicular lump.

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[skybluetony176]

I don't want them to listen to me mate, couldn't give a shit. Some people are just conservative, that's the way it is.
As for the people that have left Labour, as I say, no one owes you an explanation, its up to the party to figure out why they are about as popular as a testicular lump.

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Which begs the question. Why are you on a politics thread?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Other 3 now in, LD 3, Green 2, LAB 1.

 

[TomRad85]

More Labour voters are convinced to vote Tory because your reasoning is so logical?

More than likely driven away by utterly illogical bores like you rather than won over logical Tories.

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[TomRad85]

Which begs the question. Why are you on a politics thread?

Apologies for entering the safe space.

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[skybluetony176]

More than likely driven away by utterly illogical bores like you rather than won over logical Tories.

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Well. I’ve just voted green in the local election and for the police commissioner or whatever title they give them sounds like a wank position and a job everyone forgets about the moment that the voting slip in the box so I drew a spunking cock on it instead of voting so you’re not even remotely close.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

So...

Evo voted Labour.

Anybody else...?

 

[Skybluefaz]

I don't want them to listen to me mate, couldn't give a shit. Some people are just conservative, that's the way it is.
As for the people that have left Labour, as I say, no one owes you an explanation, its up to the party to figure out why they are about as popular as a testicular lump.

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I hear your first point. As for the second, I'm just baffled. That's why the question gets asked. Sometimes you get buzzwords like wokeness, identity politics etc. Think I'll just switch off from it for a bit tbh. I'll be alright.

 

[TomRad85]

Well. I’ve just voted green in the local election and for the police commissioner or whatever title they give them sounds like a wank position and a job everyone forgets about the moment that the voting slip in the box so I drew a spunking cock on it instead of voting so you’re not even remotely close.

Well might I suggest, for someone who doesn't want Conservatives running everything, not splitting the left wing vote by voting Green. Just a thought.

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[Skybluefaz]

So...

Evo voted Labour.

Anybody else...?

Yeah on all fronts, for the first time in ages locally. For the reason Tom put really. If you don't want Tories who else you going to vote for?

 

[skybluetony176]

Seems to have been missed amongst the election results but there was another fire in a block of flats today that has the same cladding as Grenfell.

The government said all such cladding would be removed by June 2020. In a shocking turn of events they didn't meet this deadline.

CONS +8

Looking at the photos it doesn’t look like it was fully cladded in the stuff like Grenfel. Just the areas around the windows, the rest of the construction is brick. Still should have been removed though as promised.