Philosoraptor
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NIMBY
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NIMBY
shmmeee
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I live in Bedworth. The council house is not MBY.
But yeah, I support nuclear power and I’d have an SMR by my house.
Philosoraptor
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Happy to relocate the site to be as close as possible to you.
shmmeee
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Yes. Nuclear is safe and clean. Why are you against it?
Philosoraptor
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Until it isn't.
Philosoraptor
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Small list for you.
www.theguardian.com
Nuclear power plant accidents: listed and ranked since 1952
How many nuclear power plants have had accidents and incidents? Get the full list and find out how they're ranked
shmmeee
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Solid argument. Can you actually name your concern or just “nuclear scary”? I bet you’re anti GMO as well.
Philosoraptor
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What does the data say?
Philosoraptor
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Will you be using the same type of argument saying it's clean and safe?
shmmeee
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Small list for you.
Nuclear power plant accidents: listed and ranked since 1952
How many nuclear power plants have had accidents and incidents? Get the full list and find out how they're ranked
A list of things that have happened at nuclear plants yes. Are you worried the U.K. will be hit by earthquakes and tsunamis or something?
And what do you think the aftermath of that was, as the biggest disaster in recent memory?
shmmeee
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It says nuclear is safer than hydro and wind and significantly safer than fossil fuels:
Philosoraptor
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Clean and safe
www.devonlive.com
BSE crisis: When John Selywn Gummer fed his daughter beefburger
As Mad Cow Disease spread the agriculture minister wanted to prove there was no danger from British Beef
shmmeee
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GMOs or nuclear? Yes to both.
shmmeee
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Clean and safe
BSE crisis: When John Selywn Gummer fed his daughter beefburger
As Mad Cow Disease spread the agriculture minister wanted to prove there was no danger from British Beef
You think nuclear power causes BSE now?
I think it might be time for bed.
Philosoraptor
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Looking forward for every major city to build their own miniature nuclear reactor on these results. Or, perhaps not.
fernandopartridge
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What are uranium reserves like? I'm on board with the argument for nuclear but it still isn't the ideal scenario (IE one where the UK is materially self-dependent on its domestic energy supply)
shmmeee
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About 135 years left according to this: Peak uranium - Wikipedia
We’ve wasted too much time to worry about ideal. Hopefully 100 years is long enough to get fusion off the ground or significantly improve renewables. I’d still want solar and wind at every viable location personally.
Philosoraptor
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Being a right capitalist here. On the AUS200 
or was. $$
or was. $$
Philosoraptor
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I think you either dodge a subject or find information which suits your cause.
Any idea why nuclear power station are built on coasts, mostly away from population centres, and are scarce in amount built compared to other power plants?
Registering deaths per KWH is just bonkers.
The true toll of the Chernobyl disaster
Covered up by a secretive Soviet Union at the time, the true number of deaths and illnesses caused by the nuclear accident are only now becoming clear.
www.bbc.com
Also have a fly past of the exclusion zone, which is around twice the size of London.
Just out of interest, when do you think the exclusion zone around Chernobyl will become habitable again?
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Brighton Sky Blue
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I think you either dodge a subject or find information which suits your cause.
Any idea why nuclear power station are built on coasts, mostly away from population centres, and are scarce in amount built compared to power plants?
Registering deaths per KWH is just bonkers.
The true toll of the Chernobyl disaster
Covered up by a secretive Soviet Union at the time, the true number of deaths and illnesses caused by the nuclear accident are only now becoming clear.
Also have a fly past of the exclusion zone, which is around twice the size of London.
Just out of interest, when do you think the exclusion zone around Chernobyl will become habitable again?
I think our standards would be a bit better than the Soviet ones of 40 years ago. But consider how ‘habitable’ some parts of the world already are because of continued fossil fuel usage. Look at what’s starting to happen each summer with other parts of the world going on fire.
We need a rapid way to immediately wean off coal oil and gas while the long term answer is found.
shmmeee
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I think you either dodge a subject or find information which suits your cause.
Any idea why nuclear power station are built on coasts, mostly away from population centres, and are scarce in amount built compared to other power plants?
Registering deaths per KWH is just bonkers.
The true toll of the Chernobyl disaster
Covered up by a secretive Soviet Union at the time, the true number of deaths and illnesses caused by the nuclear accident are only now becoming clear.
Also have a fly past of the exclusion zone, which is around twice the size of London.
Just out of interest, when do you think the exclusion zone around Chernobyl will become habitable again?
Chernobyl. Really? You realise how that happened didn’t you? Again do you think that would happen in this day and age? In this country? It’s like saying trains aren’t safe as a technology because of 7/7.
Could Chernobyl happen again without human error?
The Chernobyl nuclear disaster was a catastrophic accident, BBC Science Focus looks at whether this could happen again.
www.sciencefocus.com
What measure would you use?
its like plane travel. Seems big and scary but actually safer than driving.
what is your solution for clean energy exactly?
Philosoraptor
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You do realise there's a war going on around the largest nuclear plant in Europe?
Philosoraptor
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I just don't think people would be that worried if it was a wind or solar power plant.
Or any other...
Or any other...
shmmeee
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I do. What do you think is going to happen?
You do know how modern nuclear reactors are built don’t you? And again, if the U.K. is hit by war or earthquakes or tsunamis then we’ve got much much bigger problems.
Why not compare us to someone similar like France?
shmmeee
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The top 1% are really where we should be focusing the “personal responsibility” stuff. Their usage massively outweighs what any of us even in a developed nation does.
But seemingly if you’re rich you’re a special unicorn who can’t be upset.
TomRad85
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Don't forget the Hollywood sorts who like to preach about this shit but basically just do whatever the fuck they want. The worst kind hypocrites.
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shmmeee
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Everyone’s a hypocrite, but yeah I’d put them in too. Isn’t Taylor Swift the biggest individual polluter on the planet or something?
The current breed of climate activists get a lot of shit but I thought the XR ones who shut down that airfield used by private jets had the right idea. Focus on that and you’ll probably actually do significant good and have the public behind you.
fernandopartridge
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Looking like China is going to be hit by a big COVID surge as it still pretends to in late 2019/early 2020. Vaccine take up in the elderly is poor and the ongoing restrictions are just not tenable. More supply shock coming for the West.
shmmeee
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Things getting hairy over there with protests too. Interesting times. Major change in the two big non western geopolitical poles coming up?
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Yes the argument that our problems especially climate change is down to overpopulation isn't right at all. The problem is the behaviour of the richest few.
skybluetony176
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Private aircraft are responsible for more pollution than commercial aircraft. Yet the rhetoric always seems to be making Joe Bloggs feel guilty about flying to Spain once a year with 80 other people on a Ryan Air flight with a shared carbon footprint. Reality is that if we banned private jets the world can probably sustain commercial flights in conjunction with carbon offsetting projects and we can all travel guilt free.
Philosoraptor
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Been talking about this on Bloomberg today. No change in the market though. China50 went up like a rocket at 6.00am, now holding steady. Can see big changes in the next few weeks if it spreads.
clint van damme
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Thanks for the info, I'll try and cut my usage down.