He’s a slippery fucker. I’d heard a couple of other things about him as landlord that were less than complimentary. Him as chancellor with Johnson as PM…bet everyone had to check their watches and wallets with those pair in charge
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He’s a slippery fucker. I’d heard a couple of other things about him as landlord that were less than complimentary. Him as chancellor with Johnson as PM…bet everyone had to check their watches and wallets with those pair in charge
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I did find the "taxes are private" line very suspicious.
You can only imagine that he's had the balls to sack Zahawi after checking he hadn't and thus put himself in an awkward position if the revelation came out.
We already know that the guy will avoid huge amounts of tax wherever he can, but I guess that's from employing people to do stuff that's legal but unethical, whereas by the sounds of it Zahawi was more not telling HMRC everything..
skybluetony176
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Still trying to work out why an inquiry into an inquiry was required. HMRC already had an inquiry, he was guilty. What else did Sunak need to know to come to the inevitable conclusion he was always going to have to come too?
I guess it’s whether there were any mitigating factors/circumstances and to be seen to be following due process. Don’t get me wrong, if this had gone on for weeks or months then I’d be wondering WFT was happening, however, a week or two is hardly something to get wound up about, especially when the end conclusion was the correct one
skybluetony176
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But it has been going on for months. He was red flagged when he first became a minister, the reasons why were reported last summer. It’s a stretch to suggest that this has suddenly crept up on Sunak. He’s got a bigger problem now anyway, he’s now got to explain why after sacking Zahawi for breaking the ministerial code he still has Braverman in a job.
clint van damme
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clint van damme
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He's not a journalist. But hes showed up the media in this country for the useless, compliant shower of shit they actually are.
Brighton Sky Blue
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As Chomsky once called it, 'manufactured consent'.
Skybluefaz
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Get your votes in.
shmmeee
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clint van damme
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shmmeee
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I voted yes for the lols anyway
skybluetony176
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The mentalists. I think 30p Lee would be great Conservative Party chairman…. for the Labour Party. Give Gullis a job too and Desmond Swayne. Put all the nuttiest of the nut jobs in the front window of the Tory party. The more ridiculous they look the more normal people will turn away from them.
Skybluefaz
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skybluetony176
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This is hilarious
clint van damme
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This is on top of being the only G7 economy not to return to pre pandemic levels
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Why are we the only ones being this badly affected by Covid and the war in Ukraine?
It's almost as if that's bullshit and there are other factors at play.
UK only G7 economy to shrink this year, IMF warns
Britain will emerge as the “sick man” of the world’s richest countries this year, according to forecasts by the IMF.
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Why are we the only ones being this badly affected by Covid and the war in Ukraine?
It's almost as if that's bullshit and there are other factors at play.
Sky Blue Pete
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It’s cause we are lazy workshy fuckwitsThis is on top of being the only G7 economy not to return to pre pandemic levels
UK only G7 economy to shrink this year, IMF warns
Britain will emerge as the “sick man” of the world’s richest countries this year, according to forecasts by the IMF.
Why are we the only ones being this badly affected by Covid and the war in Ukraine?
It's almost as if that's bullshit and there are other factors at play.
Brighton Sky Blue
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This is on top of being the only G7 economy not to return to pre pandemic levels
UK only G7 economy to shrink this year, IMF warns
Britain will emerge as the “sick man” of the world’s richest countries this year, according to forecasts by the IMF.
Why are we the only ones being this badly affected by Covid and the war in Ukraine?
It's almost as if that's bullshit and there are other factors at play.
Militant nurses, teachers, postmen, and railway signallers. All their fault for not being team players. Rishi even offered to touch base, they wouldn’t get on board.
Skybluefaz
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5 live says Russia will perform better than the UK financially. Wtf?
chiefdave
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its amazing how many people will parrot that line when you bring up the state the country is
Starmer really needs to do some work on getting the message through that other countries have been impacted by covid and Ukraine and aren't in the mess we are
I wouldnt pay too much attention to forecasts. BoE are likely to announce this week that rather than an eight quarter (two year !!!) recession we will only contract but half as much as they expected and for half as long. Their previous forecast…three months ago !
I think we’re now back above pre pandemic levels
www.morningstar.co.uk
…however, economies contracted and then subsequently grew at different levels and different times around pandemic. We grew most last year amongst G7 but had contracted more during (maybe partially due to us being so service reliant) just as we and others were due to kick on, the war started.
Im not saying everything’s rosey, it’s not, but it’s also maybe not as bad as the headlines and forecasts would suggest and if energy prices/inflation can come down and stay down, hopefully it will be better than forecasts indicate. There’s also too many variables (main one being war) to accurately forecast at the moment
I think we’re now back above pre pandemic levels
UK Economy Back to Pre-Covid Levels
Service sector main driver of growth in October, ONS says. Inflation and interest rates are due this week
…however, economies contracted and then subsequently grew at different levels and different times around pandemic. We grew most last year amongst G7 but had contracted more during (maybe partially due to us being so service reliant) just as we and others were due to kick on, the war started.
Im not saying everything’s rosey, it’s not, but it’s also maybe not as bad as the headlines and forecasts would suggest and if energy prices/inflation can come down and stay down, hopefully it will be better than forecasts indicate. There’s also too many variables (main one being war) to accurately forecast at the moment
shmmeee
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I wouldnt pay too much attention to forecasts. BoE are likely to announce this week that rather than an eight quarter (two year !!!) recession we will only contract but half as much as they expected and for half as long. Their previous forecast…three months ago !
I think we’re now back above pre pandemic levels
UK Economy Back to Pre-Covid Levels
Service sector main driver of growth in October, ONS says. Inflation and interest rates are due this week
…however, economies contracted and then subsequently grew at different levels and different times around pandemic. We grew most last year amongst G7 but had contracted more during (maybe partially due to us being so service reliant) just as we and others were due to kick on, the war started.
Im not saying everything’s rosey, it’s not, but it’s also maybe not as bad as the headlines and forecasts would suggest and if energy prices/inflation can come down and stay down, hopefully it will be better than forecasts indicate. There’s also too many variables (main one being war) to accurately forecast at the moment
Didn’t have you down as a Morning Star reader Steve!
Haha, read all sorts me !
I just googled the pre pandemic comment as I’ve seen contrasting views over recent weeks/months. Either way we’re barely above it
shmmeee
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It does look like the headwinds are easing. Still think we need a strong government to make some bold decisions post Brexit if we’re to get back on track and not sure Rishi is capable of that, seems to barely be holding his party together and rapidly losing voter confidence (his approvals have dropped quicker than most recently).
I do think SM access or that by another name would make a huge difference. And that’ll be a good couple of year negotiation post GE unless Starmer has been back channelling it in the mean time. Now the Truss Singapore on Sea stuff is dead in the water I’m not sure what other moves we could make to grow rapidly at the moment.
skybluetony176
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You know it’s shit when the Telegraph puts its hands up. Sort of…
www.telegraph.co.uk
Zero trains to run across 15 operators as February rail strikes hit commuters
Commuters will be left stranded across the country as 15 train operators run zero trains both tomorrow and Friday.
www.telegraph.co.uk
Agree we need some bold decisions and I’m not sure Sunak will be able to deliver them due to divisions within party.
A closer relationship with EU is a must (on both sides) but as I’ve said before rejoining SM is just not going to happen in short term as it requires freedom or movement. Whatever people’s views on it that’s still toxic within major parties and probably public. Even just a closer relationship is likely to be scuppered by ERG lot though and you can’t run government like that
Think Sunak/Hunt are probably as good as Tories have got to offer and have at least stabilised things, whether they’ve got a deliverable vision is a different matter though. Sunaks personal ratings were damaged by Zahawi
skybluetony176
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I think when reality plays out that will prove to be a blip. Whether you go by the IMF forecast or the expected BOE forecast the likelihood is that we’ll be below pre pandemic levels by the end of the quarter. Again.I wouldnt pay too much attention to forecasts. BoE are likely to announce this week that rather than an eight quarter (two year !!!) recession we will only contract but half as much as they expected and for half as long. Their previous forecast…three months ago !
I think we’re now back above pre pandemic levels
UK Economy Back to Pre-Covid Levels
Service sector main driver of growth in October, ONS says. Inflation and interest rates are due this week
…however, economies contracted and then subsequently grew at different levels and different times around pandemic. We grew most last year amongst G7 but had contracted more during (maybe partially due to us being so service reliant) just as we and others were due to kick on, the war started.
Im not saying everything’s rosey, it’s not, but it’s also maybe not as bad as the headlines and forecasts would suggest and if energy prices/inflation can come down and stay down, hopefully it will be better than forecasts indicate. There’s also too many variables (main one being war) to accurately forecast at the moment
shmmeee
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Yeah I don’t think it’ll be SM for those reasons, but something that gets us closer and reduces import/export issues. Maybe CU. But I think politically anything like that will have problems and it’ll have to be sold as a bunch of bespoke deals or something. How much appetite there is in Europe to play that game is another question of course. I get the impression they’d quite enjoy rubbing our noses in it.
clint van damme
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Including Russia!
Brighton Sky Blue
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The country needs an election and has done for ages but the selfish people in government carry on despite being feckless at solving the problems at hand. Which lies in the solutions being counterintuitive to their ideology.
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What joy(!)
shmmeee
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Done Gulis and Anderson dirty there
Yeah, if there’s negative growth this quarter think you’ll be right
