Do you want to discuss boring politics? (25 Viewers)

[PVA]

How many foodbanks qualifies as an achievement then?

Are you really as daft as poor old Fred?

 

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[Mucca Mad Boys]

You are right - but what it does tell you that the agenda in these areas is cutting through.... and it’s not Starmer Tory-lite tribute.

This is why Labour is in a pickle. A knee-jerk shift to the left won’t really do the party any favours. Corbyn ran on a radical manifesto. The obvious fact is that culturally, Labour needs to do something to win back its culturally conservative base. Be it Starmer or Corbyn, the party is seen as too metropolitan and too aloof of the needs of country north of London.

There are lessons to be learned, and I don’t think the Labour establishment has got it in them to learn these lessons and to adapt their messaging.

The first thing is to come out and accept Brexit and build a post-Brexit Labour vision for the UK.

 

[clint van damme]

The first thing is to come out and accept Brexit and build a post-Brexit Labour vision for the UK.

not get an ardent remainer to contest a staunch Brexit constituency then?!

 

[Ian1779]

This is why Labour is in a pickle. A knee-jerk shift to the left won’t really do the party any favours. Corbyn ran on a radical manifesto. The obvious fact is that culturally, Labour needs to do something to win back its culturally conservative base. Be it Starmer or Corbyn, the party is seen as too metropolitan and too aloof of the needs of country north of London.

There are lessons to be learned, and I don’t think the Labour establishment has got it in them to learn these lessons and to adapt their messaging.

The first thing is to come out and accept Brexit and build a post-Brexit Labour vision for the UK.

The party should focus on the areas where it has control and look to make a difference at local level for now. What can it’s councils implement, what can these metro mayors do - and then go and share that message and tell people what you actually did. And forget the word waffle bollocks.

 

[Grendel]

The party should focus on the areas where it has control and look to make a difference at local level for now. What can it’s councils implement, what can these metro mayors do - and then go and share that message and tell people what you actually did. And forget the word waffle bollocks.

It’s all fine according to David

 

[clint van damme]

The party should focus on the areas where it has control and look to make a difference at local level for now. What can it’s councils implement, what can these metro mayors do - and then go and share that message and tell people what you actually did. And forget the word waffle bollocks.

Starmer had disbanded the community organising unit, another mistake.
One thing that's come from these elections is that engagement with the community has been a significant factor in some of the big results for either party.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Vile c**t Sturgeon pledging to devote another 4 years to breaking the union rather than governing

 

[Ian1779]

So much for Kier taking responsibility....

 

[Grendel]

So much for Kier taking responsibility....

she is a disaster to be fair

 

[Ian1779]

she is a disaster to be fair

Maybe he’ll sack himself too then

 

[David O'Day]

Shit take of the day here.

Why, it's factual unlike a lot of the fucking nonsense posted on this thread in the last few days.

 

[clint van damme]

So much for Kier taking responsibility....

this didn't end well then?

 

[Ian1779]

So since taking personal responsibility for Thursday, he plans to sack his female chancellor, has sacked his female deputy from her chair role (a working class woman too at that) - all that is left surely for him to do is the Scooby Doo reveal and pull out that Blue rosette from under his jacket.

 

[clint van damme]

So since taking personal responsibility for Thursday, he plans to sack his female chancellor, has sacked his female deputy from her chair role (a working class woman too at that) - all that is left surely for him to do is the Scooby Doo reveal and pull out that Blue rosette from under his jacket.

she had been putting the boot into Johnson in the run up to the elections, I can't imagine that went down well with Keith.

 

[Grendel]

Strangely I thought it would be worse than this.

Anyway in Cov South Corbyn was mentioned far more on the doorstep than KS.

Don't believe every "leak"

What were you doing knocking doors David

We’re Sinn Fein standing here?

 

[Evo1883]

Vile c**t Sturgeon pledging to devote another 4 years to breaking the union rather than governing

There are many SNP voters that don't want independence .

She's barking up the wrong tree

 

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[Evo1883]

its not on journalists ..however its about time the old Gammon shite stopped ... wouldn't you say

 

[Skybluefaz]

2 rite. Labour r a jk!

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Not true though

tbf, the journalist didn't name him...

 

[David O'Day]

There are many SNP voters that don't want independence .

She's barking up the wrong tree

True they do outpoll independence. They are seen as the progressive option that aren't labour

 

[clint van damme]

its not on journalists ..however its about time the old Gammon shite stopped ... wouldn't you say

wokeness gone mad!!

 

[David O'Day]

So since taking personal responsibility for Thursday, he plans to sack his female chancellor, has sacked his female deputy from her chair role (a working class woman too at that) - all that is left surely for him to do is the Scooby Doo reveal and pull out that Blue rosette from under his jacket.

Taking about shit takes - what does the sex of either the person in charge of national campaigns or the chancellor the left have spent the last 5 months calling to be replaced have to do with anything?

 

[Ian1779]

Taking about shit takes - what does the sex of either the person in charge of national campaigns or the chancellor the left have spent the last 5 months calling to be replaced have to do with anything?

You may well be right - but if you’ve learnt anything about Boris and the Tories over the last 24 months it’s that perception is everything.

The London metropolitan lawyer sack his female, working class deputy 2 days after delivering a shit-show in the local elections, after claiming to take full responsibility.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

There are many SNP voters that don't want independence .

She's barking up the wrong tree

It’s pretty foolhardy to vote SNP if you oppose independence

 

[Evo1883]

wokeness gone mad!!

On another note , I see momentum (the organisation that requires labour membership to join ) are still retweeting wankers like Owen jones on twitter .

 

[Evo1883]

It’s pretty foolhardy to vote SNP if you oppose independence

True but many people vote genuinely on local issues

 

[David O'Day]

You may well be right - but if you’ve learnt anything about Boris and the Tories over the last 24 months it’s that perception is everything.

The London metropolitan lawyer sack his female, working class deputy 2 days after delivering a shit-show in the local elections, after claiming to take full responsibility.

She's still a close member of the leadership team, she's just being replaced in her campaign management roles after a pretty bad campaign.

I doubt most people give a fuck who the Chairman/Head of national campaigning of the Labour party is.


With the shadow chancellor there's every chance she is replaced by a female if she is shuffled

 

[Philosoraptor]

Vile c**t Sturgeon pledging to devote another 4 years to breaking the union rather than governing

Just for you Brighton, this has been hanging around reception for a week or two now.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

its not on journalists ..however its about time the old Gammon shite stopped ... wouldn't you say

What, you reckon he should change his name by deed poll?

 

[Skybluefaz]

A journalist calling people gammon = Labour being decimated

The actual government stealing taxpayers money and piling the bodies high = Tories getting more and more popular

The journalist was referencing a man by his actual name.

 

[Skybluefaz]

What, you reckon he should change his name by deed poll?

Can't believe that made its way into the net through so many bodies.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

A journalist calling people gammon = Labour being decimated

He didn't

 

[clint van damme]

On another note , I see momentum (the organisation that requires labour membership to join ) are still retweeting wankers like Owen jones on twitter .

why do people hate Owen jones? I find him inoffensive, I don't agree with much of what he says but I don't understand the hatred he brings out in people on both the left and right.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Can't believe that made its way into the net through so many bodies.

For the politically disengaged...