Astute
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I agree. But it was about Nandy who wants much more.
I agree. But it was about Nandy who wants much more.I was explaining the school position that was all, it’s also my only real frame of reference to be honest.
For me there are two completely separate issues going on here that have somehow become intertwined.
Firstly I think the GRC is a no-brainer. It’s a piece of paper that allows someone to change their pronouns on their driving licence or bank account. But that’s where it should start and end. It should not be passport to protected spaces.
Protected spaces are a different debate - this is where safety takes precedence, so if that’s means trans people have to change in a single self contained space I don’t think that’s unreasonable if their others choices are respected.
Yes. But it has gone much further than that.Well he would as a school teacher!
Out of interest if a student wishes to be they/them would teachers and other students be punished for not going along with that either intentionally or unintentionally?
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What has someone being gay got to do with someone wanting to change gender?
But that isn't the subject.People make mistakes in school with pronouns - I know I have before. I don’t think there would be any sanctions unless we were talking about sustained and deliberate targeting, essentially bullying.
Have had a few cases of that-teachers will be told what the student prefers to be called from now on but the student is also told that teachers might make innocent mistakes while getting used to it. If a teacher carried on despite knowing full well the preference yes I expect they’d be in a bit of trouble
Oh yes Tavistock. I wonder how many would Google and carry on with the same lines.There’s a huge amount of evidence most dysphoric children grow up to be gay and without dysphoria post puberty. Tavistock staff have joked internally their work means there’ll be no gay kids left.
Neopronouns too or just the big three?
Only missing about 55 different genders thenI haven’t yet been asked to go beyond him/her/them.
Look good by being able to read and comprehend facts?And here comes the first idiot who wants to look good.
So you don't have daughters or a partner who is happy to share their personal space with anyone who says they identify as a woman.
If you was capable of pulling a woman I would ask you what she thought on the subject.Look good by being able to read and comprehend facts?
You're as thick as mince.
OK fair, I think calling an individual they/them is utter nonsense but its completely avoidable by just using someone's name of course, which I guess is the polite thing to do if you think its nonsense.Have had a few cases of that-teachers will be told what the student prefers to be called from now on but the student is also told that teachers might make innocent mistakes while getting used to it. If a teacher carried on despite knowing full well the preference yes I expect they’d be in a bit of trouble
So what you're really saying is that you agree with me. Thank you.I was explaining the school position that was all, it’s also my only real frame of reference to be honest.
For me there are two completely separate issues going on here that have somehow become intertwined.
Firstly I think the GRC is a no-brainer. It’s a piece of paper that allows someone to change their pronouns on their driving licence or bank account. But that’s where it should start and end. It should not be passport to protected spaces.
Protected spaces are a different debate - this is where safety takes precedence, so if that’s means trans people have to change in a single self contained space I don’t think that’s unreasonable if their others choices are respected.
OK fair, I think calling an individual they/them is utter nonsense but its completely avoidable by just using someone's name of course, which I guess is the polite thing to do if you think its nonsense.
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His name is Tom. He isn't a Rad. And he isn't 85 yet. That is next week.A a xx
What would you call an unknown person? I’m against a lot of this stuff, especially child transition, but we use gender neutral pronouns for single people all the time. “When I find out who TomRad85 is, I’ll buy them a pint” for example.
I guess we do occasionally, I'm not sure I think I know most people's gender if they are people I talk about. If I'm unsure for example in a Teams chat I'd say he/her and await someone to give me the correct one. I'm not accepting there's a third undefined one as I think its rubbish. Believe me I'm not rude, I try and avoid it by just using names like I said, still think it's narcissistic language though.A a xx
What would you call an unknown person? I’m against a lot of this stuff, especially child transition, but we use gender neutral pronouns for single people all the time. “When I find out who TomRad85 is, I’ll buy them a pint” for example.
I guess we do occasionally, I'm not sure I think I know most people's gender if they are people I talk about. If I'm unsure for example in a Teams chat I'd say he/her and await someone to give me the correct one. I'm not accepting there's a third undefined one as I think its rubbish. Believe me I'm not rude, I try and avoid it by just using names like I said, still think it's narcissistic language though.
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This is what I mean, he's just a bloke, we all know he's a bloke, he looks like a bloke, he's never been anything other than a bloke and I assume has no intention to have any surgery in an attempt to be anything else. He's just a narcissist.Is Sam smith now them as he’s the size of two people?
I guess we do occasionally, I'm not sure I think I know most people's gender if they are people I talk about. If I'm unsure for example in a Teams chat I'd say he/her and await someone to give me the correct one. I'm not accepting there's a third undefined one as I think its rubbish. Believe me I'm not rude, I try and avoid it by just using names like I said, still think it's narcissistic language though.
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That person is just a Fisher person and not an angler.This is what I mean, he's just a bloke, we all know he's a bloke, he looks like a bloke, he's never been anything other than a bloke and I assume has no intention to have any surgery in an attempt to be anything else. He's just a narcissist.
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This is what I mean, he's just a bloke, we all know he's a bloke, he looks like a bloke, he's never been anything other than a bloke and I assume has no intention to have any surgery in an attempt to be anything else. He's just a narcissist.
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Yeh fair, I guess we do occasionally in some situations, in others it feels wholly unnatural.Oh no non-binary as a concept is a load of arrogant sexist nonsense. But just saying using they/them for a single person isn’t bad grammar.
Also true, I generally use names for everyone so again it's avoidable in most situations.Also with the whole pronouns thing. I was always taught using them at all in the presence of a person was rude. “Who’s she the cats mother?” Id get if I did it.
OK fair, I think calling an individual they/them is utter nonsense but its completely avoidable by just using someone's name of course, which I guess is the polite thing to do if you think its nonsense.
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I have no idea, she’ll probably think I’m an oddball if I ask her. I take it you’ve never been to Germany before?So she would be happy to share her space with another woman. But that wasn't the question.
Would she be happy to share her personal space with any bloke who identifies as a woman? Or are you saying there are no wrong uns that will use it to their advantage?
I think this is the problem. Its being pushed very hard by the media and in many workplaces despite the majority, pretty much everyone outside the fringe left really, thinking its rubbish.On a programme after the Brits a bbc reporter said he! Was immediately corrected he grovelling apologised as if he’d used the N word and one of the people presenting with him said it’s ok people can make a mistake once as long as it’s not deliberate and older generations possibly need education on it
Can you call them a fat bastard whose are all the pies instead?
Which is of course an absolute farce and this has of course been allowed to happen under a Conservative government. Another reason they need to piss offNot going to lie if I said that in school I’d lose my job. Not joking
Me? No.I have no idea, she’ll probably think I’m an oddball if I ask her. I take it you’ve never been to Germany before?
BTW, you’re falling hook line and sinker for the culture wars being pushed to distract away from the government.
I have no idea, she’ll probably think I’m an oddball if I ask her. I take it you’ve never been to Germany before?
BTW, you’re falling hook line and sinker for the culture wars being pushed to distract away from the government.
I have no idea, she’ll probably think I’m an oddball if I ask her. I take it you’ve never been to Germany before?
BTW, you’re falling hook line and sinker for the culture wars being pushed to distract away from the government.
I always make mistakes and trans females have been very forgivingPeople make mistakes in school with pronouns - I know I have before. I don’t think there would be any sanctions unless we were talking about sustained and deliberate targeting, essentially bullying.
It’s not a policy I personally agree with but there always seems to be a casual assumption that those who are transsexual are more likely to be sex offenders based on the actions of individuals in the news.Whatever she said sturgeon ended up resigning by trying to push legislation through - she lost support of key members of her party and Scotland at large didn’t welcome it
Always? How many are you running into? Then on top of that after running into them how do you find yourself in a situation where you have to mention their sex?I always make mistakes and trans females have been very forgiving
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