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[PVA]

Well a few people are - not exactly the whole country - still gives Boris a stage

A stage to look like a complete fucking wanker as he admits he broke the rules he made everyone else follow.

Yeah that's a really great stage for Boris.

 

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[SBT]

Well a few people are - not exactly the whole country - still gives Boris a stage

It’s on the front page of every newspaper today, bar the FT and The Sun (they went with an Ed Sheeran interview instead)

 

[fernandopartridge]

It’s on the front page of every newspaper today, bar the FT and The Sun (they went with an Ed Sheeran interview instead)

I don't think that necessarily proves anything to be honest

 

[skybluetony176]

I don't think that necessarily proves anything to be honest

It’s been live all afternoon on pretty much every news TV channel and Radio station in the country.

 

[David O'Day]

Lord Pannick is not looking happy

 

[SBT]

I don't think that necessarily proves anything to be honest

I personally find it tedious, but every broadsheet and tabloid editor alike deciding to put it on today’s front page suggests they think there’s a lot of interest in the story. I assume you think they all got it wrong?

 

[CCFCSteve]

They seemed to be heading for the time taken to correct the record as the approach they were going for, which I guess is maybe more able to be proved? After all, as soon as it came out, people would have been saying hang on, what's this all about.

They still look like shit parties mind you!

I think he lied by the way, he can’t help it, it’s compulsive, lie first ask questions later. Just not sure they can categorically prove it

Agree, awful parties. I’ve been working so not seen if they’ve brought up the sick in garden/broken swing one…liked the sound of that…Gove probably brought his gear as well

 

[skybluetony176]

Lord Pannick is not looking happy

 

[CCFCSteve]

Inflation gone up again.

Slipped under the radar with all the Boris fun but this is not good. Can’t work out if foods still increasing due to specific cost reasons or a bit of final inflation profiteering. Hoping it’s a one off month especially as oils been very low recently. Would be surprised if BoE don’t raise by 0.25 tomorrow (outside chance of 0.5 but unlikely). Unfortunately can’t see it being a pause which it might’ve been with better inflation figures especially with continued worries about stress on global banking system

 

[clint van damme]

Slipped under the radar with all the Boris fun but this is not good. Can’t work out if foods still increasing due to specific cost reasons or a bit of final inflation profiteering.

Probably a bit of both

 

[skybluetony176]

Slipped under the radar with all the Boris fun but this is not good. Can’t work out if foods still increasing due to specific cost reasons or a bit of final inflation profiteering. Hoping it’s a one off month especially as oils been very low recently. Would be surprised if BoE don’t raise by 0.25 tomorrow (outside chance of 0.5 but unlikely). Unfortunately can’t see it being a pause which it might’ve been with better inflation figures especially with continued worries about stress on global banking system

Supply and demand economics. 16.5% though, highest rate since the 70’s.

 

[skybluetony176]

So the Stormont brake only works if Stormont is sitting. The DUP are running scared.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So the Stormont brake only works if Stormont is sitting. The DUP are running scared.

Who or what is a Stormont brake? Flipping Brexit jargon

 

[fernandopartridge]

I personally find it tedious, but every broadsheet and tabloid editor alike deciding to put it on today’s front page suggests they think there’s a lot of interest in the story. I assume you think they all got it wrong?

To a certain extent they manufacture interest in stories, the headlines are not demand led ultimately.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I personally find it tedious, but every broadsheet and tabloid editor alike deciding to put it on today’s front page suggests they think there’s a lot of interest in the story. I assume you think they all got it wrong?

What is the verdict among your fellow hacks?

 

[fernandopartridge]

To back up the earlier point about the media, they were aware of this story for a long time before it was released to the wider public. It was arguably of far greater interest back then.

 

[skybluetony176]

To back up the earlier point about the media, they were aware of this story for a long time before it was released to the wider public. It was arguably of far greater interest back then.

Now he’s given his account of what happened would it surprise you if fresh stories, videos and photos started finding their way into the papers again? Seems to have been the pattern. Give him enough rope. If there’s nothing published by Monday I’d say he’s in the clear from any more bombshells on the matter.

 

[SBT]

What is the verdict among your fellow hacks?

The Beano doesn’t take an editorial view on this one

 

[SBT]

To a certain extent they manufacture interest in stories, the headlines are not demand led ultimately.

To a certain extent - maybe. To the extent that nearly every outlet, left/right, tabloid/broadsheet, radio/TV independently slaps it on the front page and leads with it? Seems a stretch to me.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The Beano doesn’t take an editorial view on this one

Wait so this isn't your handiwork?

 

[PVA]

I think he lied by the way, he can’t help it, it’s compulsive, lie first ask questions later. Just not sure they can categorically prove it

They don't have to categorically prove it. It's not a court of law, where it has to be proven beyond all reasonable doubt.

They just have to find that 'on the balance of probabilities' he lied.

And I think we can all agree that on the balance of probabilities he lied.

 

[SBT]

Wait so this isn't your handiwork?

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No this is my one (but we only did it to try and drum up interest, no-one really cares obviously):

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

No this is my one (but we only did it to try and drum up interest, no-one really cares obviously):

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I give it a 3

 

[skybluetony176]

#prayfornads

 

[Finham]

Johnson is such a useless c**t.

I can't believe (well actually I can I suppose) that £200k of public money was spent on his defence which so far consists of:

I didn't know what the rules were
Nobody told me what the rules were
The rules were impractical
Other people were doing it too

What I genuinely can't get my head around is that they were the rules that he bloody brought in, how can he keep claiming he didn't know the rules? The gentleman on Newsnight tonight who lost his mother to Covid tore into the Boris crony on the panel with this (brilliantly for a layman) and left him spluttering and then speechless.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

What I genuinely can't get my head around is that they were the rules that he bloody brought in, how can he keep claiming he didn't know the rules? The gentleman on Newsnight tonight who lost his mother to Covid tore into the Boris crony on the panel with this (brilliantly for a layman) and left him spluttering and then speechless.

I have to say some of my family just decided sod it and did a lot of what they liked especially later on in the pandemic

What he’s really saying is that it didn’t apply as we had really important jobs and needed to let off steam

The one person in the public eye that seemed to understand their role in giving a lead was the late queen

 

[skybluetony176]

So it got largely missed yesterday but it turns out that Sunak is barely paying the basic tax rate on millions of pounds of earnings. Talk about a rigged tax system. Some suggestion that he also pays tax in the US too but he’s only released his UK tax return.

 

[CCFCSteve]

So it got largely missed yesterday but it turns out that Sunak is barely paying the basic tax rate on millions of pounds of earnings. Talk about a rigged tax system. Some suggestion that he also pays tax in the US too but he’s only released his UK tax return.

He paid US tax on US dividends. You could argue about CGT and whether this should ultimately be brought in line with someone’s income tax levels but his other income he averaged 37% tax from what I’ve read.

Bit sneaky to release it yesterday but I’ve not heard about anything naughty in it. There’s plenty of rich and famous people who are born and bred in U.K. who decide live in tax havens for a proportion of the year to avoid paying anything so I can’t get too upset about someone chucking 500k into the pot

 

[SBT]

It’s on the front page of every newspaper today, bar the FT and The Sun (they went with an Ed Sheeran interview instead)

Unbelievably, after seeing how uninterested the general public is in the Boris story from yesterday’s sales figures, all of these papers have decided to put the same story on their front pages again today.

 

[PVA]

Unbelievably, after seeing how uninterested the general public is in the Boris story from yesterday’s sales figures, all of these papers have decided to put the same story on their front pages again today.

It's a really strange take to suggest that people aren't interested in it or that it isn't big news.

 

[skybluetony176]

Unbelievably, after seeing how uninterested the general public is in the Boris story from yesterday’s sales figures, all of these papers have decided to put the same story on their front pages again today.

And as the excellent Dan Hodges has pointed out none of the headlines suggest that Boris has cleared his name as he insisted he would with his evidence. He didn’t have a good day yesterday at all, the fact that the right wing press has essentially turned on him suggests he’s politically finished regardless of whether the committee go nuclear or accept his version that he’s not a liar he’s just stupid. The Star front page has the best with it’s Boris/Pinocchio/Vicky Pollard hybrid and the headline yeah but no but yeah but.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

And as the excellent Dan Hodges has pointed out none of the headlines suggest that Boris has cleared his name as he insisted he would with his evidence. He didn’t have a good day yesterday at all, the fact that the right wing press has essentially turned on him suggests he’s politically finished regardless of whether the committee go nuclear or accept his version that he’s not a liar he’s just stupid. The Star front page has the best with it’s Boris/Pinocchio/Vicky Pollard hybrid and the headline yeah but no but yeah but.

I’m genuinely surprised none of the papers have gone with ‘Tears Of A Clown’ in reference to the 70s song and whose lyrics include ‘fooling the public’.

 

[CCFCSteve]

I’m genuinely surprised none of the papers have gone with ‘Tears Of A Clown’ in reference to the 70s song and whose lyrics include ‘fooling the public’.

Great song that. Don’t spoil it

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Great song that. Don’t spoil it

There’s a smile on my face…

 

[shmmeee]

He paid US tax on US dividends. You could argue about CGT and whether this should ultimately be brought in line with someone’s income tax levels but his other income he averaged 37% tax from what I’ve read.

Bit sneaky to release it yesterday but I’ve not heard about anything naughty in it. There’s plenty of rich and famous people who are born and bred in U.K. who decide live in tax havens for a proportion of the year to avoid paying anything so I can’t get too upset about someone chucking 500k into the pot

TBF 37% tax rate for a millionaire is a joke.