Liquid Gold
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But as with my earlier post, we weren't just funding the club we were funding the squad.
The latter appears to have been dropped and we're making the squad worse.
People forget that in the summer of the St Andrews move the club would've received the second instalment from McNulty, sold both Chaplin and Bayliss as well as McCallum in January.
Conversely, the club hasn't received a windfall from a player sale/sell-on clause since Wilson was sold two years ago.
It's fairly obvious why the club is now struggling.
But as with my earlier post, we weren't just funding the club we were funding the squad.We were profiting on player sales and buying players and funding the club with the proceeds
This is very much a clutch take on the definition of asset-stripping. We would be selling 'an' asset. Not asset stripping.If they sell an ever present first team player and not replace them then yes.
If they sell an ever present first team player and not replace them then yes.
??? what are you on about ???Well Stoke has fallen through for them, you think Sunderland will be an option?
Perhaps we can put the money into the club and new contracts for Viktor, O’hare and Gus
ExactlyHaven't they all had them?
We need goals.
We already have a leaky defence, and we need to sell to stay afloat then Hyam goes.
I’m not happy like you are but if it’s a choice of a scorer, or a defender who at least several posters call out each week as too slow then Hyam it is.
It’s shit either way.
In effect though we've been subsidising the squad the past couple of seasons. Covid won't have helped either.But as with my earlier post, we weren't just funding the club we were funding the squad.
The latter appears to have been dropped and we're making the squad worse.
Also, the total of all of those sales is dwarfed by the extra money we get from championship broadcast rights alone before we consider record ticket sales, increased sponsorship revenue and record merchandise sales.People forget that in the summer of the St Andrews move the club would've received the second instalment from McNulty, sold both Chaplin and Bayliss as well as McCallum in January.
Conversely, the club hasn't received a windfall from a player sale/sell-on clause since Wilson was sold two years ago.
It's fairly obvious why the club is now struggling.
The likes of Bidwell, Walker, Moore, Hamer won't come cheap, though.Also, the total of all of those sales is dwarfed by the extra money we get from championship broadcast rights alone before we consider record ticket sales, increased sponsorship revenue and record merchandise sales.
The likes of Bidwell, Walker, Moore, Hamer won't come cheap, though.
the problem is unlike in league one and league two it’s not easy to sell assets and replace them
If we really did turn down £5m for hamer its poor decision making. I suspect o hare was lined up to go as plan B and got crocked. No one seems actively to be pursuing Gyokeres.
our recruitment strategy frankly in the last two years has been poor as has contract extensions for players who are never going to play regularly. On a tight wage bill it’s proving an issue. We can’t afford to just have the likes of Kane and Walker seeing the contracts out, Kelly holidaying on a treatment table and the likes of palmer signing who has Amber flags everywhere. That’s not even starting with the likes of hillsner da Costa etc who were nonsense signings
Its not great. We really need to tough the season out
Surprised that wasn't on the season ticket marketing.if we can ride it out.
I don't blame him. 5 years and no song. Even Kelly has a song. Even a reserve Fabio has a song, but Hyam, the one and only without a song.
Arguably that's the team manager's decision, mind you. And to a degree, who can blame him when whatever foundations he puts down, he'd have fans demanding his head if we struggled.and this instead of building a stock of decent young players were left with the likes of Kelly Waghorn and Kane sucking up a wage and going nowhere.
He mentioned Luton a few times tooOn one of the podcasts he did can’t remember which one now, Boddy said that’s who we’re trying to emulate.
Luton are another who, if their manager ever goes, might drop like a stone mind you. Not sure they're the best example to follow really, as it depends almost entirely on having the right man in charge to buck the system.He mentioned Luton a few times too
This is very much a clutch take on the definition of asset-stripping. We would be selling 'an' asset. Not asset stripping.
Obviously not, I'm being hyperbolic.That's not what asset stripping is.
But as with my earlier post, we weren't just funding the club we were funding the squad.
The latter appears to have been dropped and we're making the squad worse.
Obviously not, I'm being hyperbolic.
Still doesn't make any sense to me to make your squad weaker, lose a valuable part of it and use that just to fund operating costs.
We need big sales and promising players coming in.
What we've got is mediocre sales of a solid player for no return.
I swear you have got to be a WUM with the amount of negativity you are posting over various threads. We have literally played 2 games this season and you have us down as being relegated. it's patheticBiggest season ticket sales In how long
shame we’ll all be witnessing a dog fight to stay in this division
This is decent analysis so cheers for that.Not really there was just far more room to manoeuvre in L1.
I'd imagine the fees paid for Kastaneer, Allen, Jobello, and Godden that year totalled around seven figures give or take. Profit on player sales for that year was £3,818,867, making up over a third of the £9,038,803 operating costs. Turnover was £5,103,493, but some of those losses were Covid induced as well which needs to be factored in.
Given the club's total operating costs now likely over £20m, you'd think that the club needs to bridge at least a quarter of that in order to come close to breaking even this season as I'd imagine turnover is estimated to be around £16m give or take.
We're relying on player sales going much further which is always tricky when really investment into players is probably poorer than when we were in L1 - in relative terms that is - when competition and standards are much higher.
If it is for a sale then I'd be fine, I mentioned it further up in the thread.We are up for sale and desperately need to replace the funds from missing games and repairing a pitch that isn’t ours. Yes it’s shit but at the moment it seems to be about surviving long enough for SISU to sell… which the majority of people want. Not that I’m convinced that Jordan and his buddies will be much of an upgrade.
No I’m genuinely not mate it’s just how I feelI swear you have got to be a WUM with the amount of negativity you are posting over various threads. We have literally played 2 games this season and you have us down as being relegated. it's pathetic
I believe that is accurate, Robins doesn't want him to go and him going does not mean there will not be another sale. Leopards do not change their spots.Perhaps it’s like Peter Reid with Callum Davrnport
“where’s Callum why isn’t he in training?”
“he’s gone Peter” says McGinnitty
I just think if and I know it’s an ifNo I’m genuinely not mate it’s just how I feel
This is decent analysis so cheers for that.
If we need to make up your (probably fair) estimate of £5m in player sales I just don't get the point of selling Hyam for "far less" [than] £2.5m.
Much more practical to sell a crown jewel for £10m and cover ourselves as well as having £5m to play with in the transfer market.
Obviously the plan was to do this with O'Hare before the injury but one injury shouldn't affect our entire process. There should be bridging funds from the owners and a sale in Jan or next summer instead of picking apart an already thin squad.
That's beside the fact that a football club's owner should, in my opinion, be in it for more than cold hard cash and be looking to invest and improve the team.
Agreed, we're panicking.Probably a combination of mitigating inevitable cashflow issues and to pay for instalments on Gyokeres and Sheaf.
The sale of Hyam reeks of panic to me as clearly there's just not the level of interest in Gyokeres or Hamer as initially hoped, and I think O'Hare was probably due to go but the sale was scuppered by his injury.
Agreed, we're panicking.
The result of it shouldn't be strip our squad it should be ownership support.
Our owners are dogs hit though so....
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I hate being negative I don’t even realise I’m doing it mateAbsolutely slaughtering my enthusiasm for the season.
Just the best we can hope for is struggle and not get relegated. Don't fancy that or another trip around the lower leagues for a decade.
Fucking soul destroying club.
No room for him tonight in HullDefo legs on this one....
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