Transfer Rumour Ellis Simms (3 Viewers)

[shmmeee]

Same strategy as what it’s always been. Looking at players like Twine and McNally in L1, PL2 players with a year or two on their deal, and the odd foreign gamble like Hamer. Supplement with frees from this division.

None of that needs fees much above £2m to get some decent players. Only place I’d spend more would be on Viks replacement and even then only if we can get significantly better for £4/5m

 

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[Deity]

Probably a fair-ish fee for a 22 year old English striker who was on to score 15+ goals in this league last year at the rate he was scoring.

Would love to have him but not at that fee as surely too much of a dent in our budget. Most likely to same with Yates.

Going to be really interesting to see the strikers we end up getting.

£7m is crazy for Simms at this point in his development.

He has potential but his first touch is poor, he doesn’t have a trick, he is moderately pacey but the bcan finish ….

Everton couldn’t buy a goal last season and Dyche likes a target man but still started Gray ( a winger ) ahead of him.

 

[slowpoke]

£7m is crazy for Simms at this point in his development.

At that price. What price for Gyokeres

 

[Sick Boy]

At that price. What price for Gyokeres

What’s been suggested in the press is a good deal for us in that case, Simms is a decent player at this level.

 

[San Francisco]

Everton transfer news: Ipswich tipped for £7m Simms bid success

The Everton striker is in the sights of the Championship club and a £7m deal has now been mooted to be successful as Sean Dyche plans signings.

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That’s crazy for a player like Simms. No wonder most teams can’t compete. Teams with loaded owners just outspend on mediocre talent.

 

[Sick Boy]

That’s crazy for a player like Simms. No wonder most teams can’t compete. Teams with loaded owners just outspend on mediocre talent.

Christ he’s hardly mediocre for the Championship.

 

[shmmeee]

Christ he’s hardly mediocre for the Championship.

He’s hardly proven either. Definite potential but £7m for me is crazy money for essentially a Prem U23

 

[Sick Boy]

He’s hardly proven either. Definite potential but £7m for me is crazy money for essentially a Prem U23

Yet our fans are expecting a PL club to pay £25M for a player unproven in the PL.

 

[Levship20]

That’s crazy for a player like Simms. No wonder most teams can’t compete. Teams with loaded owners just outspend on mediocre talent.

They do but I hope the FA keep tabs on FFP

 

[shmmeee]

Yet our fans are expecting a PL club to pay £25M for a player unproven in the PL.

I wasn’t. I think the rumoured Vik deal is excellent. But he has performed over two seasons and at international level.

 

[San Francisco]

Christ he’s hardly mediocre for the Championship.

I take it back, you're right. Simms himself isn't mediocre but no way is he close to a £7 million valuation. It's irritating seeing clubs with more money than sense overpay for unproven players which then drops others clubs buying power.

 

[clint van damme]

I've heard he's incoming.
I trust Robins judgement but not impressed with what I've seen of him.

 

[Flying Fokker]

I take it back, you're right. Simms himself isn't mediocre but no way is he close to a £7 million valuation. It's irritating seeing clubs with more money than sense overpay for unproven players which then drops others clubs buying power.

Isn’t that the way of the world?

 

[San Francisco]

Isn’t that the way of the world?

I can't believe Doug isn't a billionaire.

 

[tom88]

Yet our fans are expecting a PL club to pay £25M for a player unproven in the PL.

Ollie Watkins went for £28m from championship Brentford to premier league Villa?

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

I've heard he's incoming.
I trust Robins judgement but not impressed with what I've seen of him.

Let’s see how Simms does with Hamer, Palmer, O’Hare around him next season.

 

[Il Pirata]

We are talking about Sporting not Real Madrid or Man City. I doubt very much that moving to Sporting is a life long dream for Vik, or comes with a guarantee of winning the big trophies. Vik,and as importantly his agent, will still be very open to other offers I’m sure.

I'm sure he'd much prefer a relegation battle with Everton.

 

[Martw]

I've heard he's incoming.
I trust Robins judgement but not impressed with what I've seen of him.

We wouldn't be spending £7M though surely if thats the rumoured fee?

 

[clint van damme]

We wouldn't be spending £7M though surely if thats the rumoured fee?

I wouldn't have thought so.
Just heard a pub rumour tonight hes on his way, probably bollocks.

 

[mmttww]

I've heard he's incoming.
I trust Robins judgement but not impressed with what I've seen of him.

I can only see that if Vik is going the other way. Ipswich's bid of £4m being rejected was on the BBC site last week so that seems legit. I just can't see us paying more than £2-3m for anyone with the Vik money, or £1-2m otherwise.

 

[Sick Boy]

I take it back, you're right. Simms himself isn't mediocre but no way is he close to a £7 million valuation. It's irritating seeing clubs with more money than sense overpay for unproven players which then drops others clubs buying power.

I agree on that but there are likely a few clubs interested and they’ve got money behind them so it’ll inflate the price by a few million. I’d be happy if we signed him, personally.

 

[mmttww]

Never seen him play, but based on his numbers, I'd be happy with him. Just not for a daft, inflated fee. If he's not in a PL Academy and putting those numbers up in those leagues, he's £1-2m max.

 

[CovLad94]

I'd be happy with Simms, hopefully there's some truth to the pub rumour seeing as Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter ill have to come here more to see what's going on

 

[Greggs]

I wouldn't have thought so.
Just heard a pub rumour tonight hes on his way, probably bollocks.

Depends which pub to be fair....

 

[clint van damme]

Depends which pub to be fair....

The bullshit Arms!

 

[Greggs]

The bullshit Arms!

 

[clint van damme]

The Gyokeres thread in gif form

 

[its a buzzard]

The bullshit Arms!

The Cock and Bull.

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[higgs]

The long shot

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[hill83]

The bullshit Arms!

The Red Lying

 

[skyblu3sk]

I'd rather we went after 3 emerging talents for £2m each than put our eggs in one basket. Continue shopping as we have been but more of them.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Be amazed we were spending more than £4m on a replacement, and no way is Simms worth £7m. If it was around £3m with add-ons and a sell-on clause I think it was just about ok. Any more is silly money.

We need a few strikers so the money we have to reinvest needs to be able to bring in at least two replacements of a standard higher than Godden, Walker and Waghorn. Then we could still do with having a few million to bring in 3CB's and a RWB. I don't want us to be relying heavily on loans again, but I can see it being the case by and large.

Shame Undav started getting games at Brighton as I'd have really liked to have got him.

 

[Hincha]

He’s hardly proven either. Definite potential but £7m for me is crazy money for essentially a Prem U23

He scored 7 in 17 last year for Sunderland and their fans were saying he was getting better before being recalled by Everton - how is that essentially a Prem U23?

He was on to match Gyok's goalscoring record in his first full season with us and is younger & English. Would anyone have sold Gyok for 7m last summer?

The fee is inflated paper talk anyway (same as Gyok for 25m) - he'll probably go for 5m-6m which isn't that crazy.

It is all irrelevant anyway as we won't be paying it even for half the fee being banded about.

 

[slowpoke]

[QUOTE="Sky_Blue_Dreamer, post: 2790579, member: 9907
Shame Undav started getting games at Brighton as I'd have really liked to have got him.
[/QUOTE]
Loan ?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

[QUOTE="Sky_Blue_Dreamer, post: 2790579, member: 9907
Shame Undav started getting games at Brighton as I'd have really liked to have got him.

Loan ?
[/QUOTE]
Doubt it. Seemed to be playing quite regularly (and getting a few goals) in the last few games. Think he'll be a fixture of their squad this year unless they make some incredible signings.