Transfer Rumour Ellis Simms (5 Viewers)

shmmeee · Jul 1, 2023

Same strategy as what it’s always been. Looking at players like Twine and McNally in L1, PL2 players with a year or two on their deal, and the odd foreign gamble like Hamer. Supplement with frees from this division.

None of that needs fees much above £2m to get some decent players. Only place I’d spend more would be on Viks replacement and even then only if we can get significantly better for £4/5m

Deity · Jul 1, 2023

Hincha said:
Probably a fair-ish fee for a 22 year old English striker who was on to score 15+ goals in this league last year at the rate he was scoring.

Would love to have him but not at that fee as surely too much of a dent in our budget. Most likely to same with Yates.

Going to be really interesting to see the strikers we end up getting.

£7m is crazy for Simms at this point in his development.

He has potential but his first touch is poor, he doesn’t have a trick, he is moderately pacey but the bcan finish ….

Everton couldn’t buy a goal last season and Dyche likes a target man but still started Gray ( a winger ) ahead of him.

SkyblueDad · Jul 1, 2023

Deity said:
£7m is crazy for Simms at this point in his development.

At that price. What price for Gyokeres

Sick Boy · Jul 1, 2023

slowpoke said:
At that price. What price for Gyokeres

What’s been suggested in the press is a good deal for us in that case, Simms is a decent player at this level.

San Francisco · Jul 1, 2023

Manchester_sky_blue said:
Everton transfer news: Ipswich tipped for £7m Simms bid success

The Everton striker is in the sights of the Championship club and a £7m deal has now been mooted to be successful as Sean Dyche plans signings.

www.goodisonnews.com

That’s crazy for a player like Simms. No wonder most teams can’t compete. Teams with loaded owners just outspend on mediocre talent.

Sick Boy · Jul 1, 2023

San Francisco said:
That’s crazy for a player like Simms. No wonder most teams can’t compete. Teams with loaded owners just outspend on mediocre talent.

Christ he’s hardly mediocre for the Championship.

shmmeee · Jul 1, 2023

Sick Boy said:
Christ he’s hardly mediocre for the Championship.

He’s hardly proven either. Definite potential but £7m for me is crazy money for essentially a Prem U23

Sick Boy · Jul 1, 2023

shmmeee said:
He’s hardly proven either. Definite potential but £7m for me is crazy money for essentially a Prem U23

Yet our fans are expecting a PL club to pay £25M for a player unproven in the PL.

Levship20 · Jul 1, 2023

San Francisco said:
That’s crazy for a player like Simms. No wonder most teams can’t compete. Teams with loaded owners just outspend on mediocre talent.

They do but I hope the FA keep tabs on FFP

shmmeee · Jul 1, 2023

Sick Boy said:
Yet our fans are expecting a PL club to pay £25M for a player unproven in the PL.

I wasn’t. I think the rumoured Vik deal is excellent. But he has performed over two seasons and at international level.

San Francisco · Jul 1, 2023

Sick Boy said:
Christ he’s hardly mediocre for the Championship.

I take it back, you're right. Simms himself isn't mediocre but no way is he close to a £7 million valuation. It's irritating seeing clubs with more money than sense overpay for unproven players which then drops others clubs buying power.

clint van damme · Jul 1, 2023

I've heard he's incoming.
I trust Robins judgement but not impressed with what I've seen of him.

Flying Fokker · Jul 1, 2023

San Francisco said:
I take it back, you're right. Simms himself isn't mediocre but no way is he close to a £7 million valuation. It's irritating seeing clubs with more money than sense overpay for unproven players which then drops others clubs buying power.

Isn’t that the way of the world?

San Francisco · Jul 1, 2023

Flying Fokker said:
Isn’t that the way of the world?

I can't believe Doug isn't a billionaire.

tom88 · Jul 1, 2023

Sick Boy said:
Yet our fans are expecting a PL club to pay £25M for a player unproven in the PL.

Ollie Watkins went for £28m from championship Brentford to premier league Villa?

AFCCOVENTRY · Jul 1, 2023

clint van damme said:
I've heard he's incoming.
I trust Robins judgement but not impressed with what I've seen of him.

Let’s see how Simms does with Hamer, Palmer, O’Hare around him next season.

Il Pirata · Jul 1, 2023

Deity said:
We are talking about Sporting not Real Madrid or Man City. I doubt very much that moving to Sporting is a life long dream for Vik, or comes with a guarantee of winning the big trophies. Vik,and as importantly his agent, will still be very open to other offers I’m sure.

I'm sure he'd much prefer a relegation battle with Everton.

Martw · Jul 1, 2023

clint van damme said:
I've heard he's incoming.
I trust Robins judgement but not impressed with what I've seen of him.

We wouldn't be spending £7M though surely if thats the rumoured fee?

clint van damme · Jul 1, 2023

Martw said:
We wouldn't be spending £7M though surely if thats the rumoured fee?

I wouldn't have thought so.
Just heard a pub rumour tonight hes on his way, probably bollocks.

mmttww · Jul 1, 2023

clint van damme said:
I've heard he's incoming.
I trust Robins judgement but not impressed with what I've seen of him.

I can only see that if Vik is going the other way. Ipswich's bid of £4m being rejected was on the BBC site last week so that seems legit. I just can't see us paying more than £2-3m for anyone with the Vik money, or £1-2m otherwise.

Sick Boy · Jul 1, 2023

San Francisco said:
I take it back, you're right. Simms himself isn't mediocre but no way is he close to a £7 million valuation. It's irritating seeing clubs with more money than sense overpay for unproven players which then drops others clubs buying power.

I agree on that but there are likely a few clubs interested and they’ve got money behind them so it’ll inflate the price by a few million. I’d be happy if we signed him, personally.

mmttww · Jul 1, 2023

Never seen him play, but based on his numbers, I'd be happy with him. Just not for a daft, inflated fee. If he's not in a PL Academy and putting those numbers up in those leagues, he's £1-2m max.

CovLad94 · Jul 1, 2023

I'd be happy with Simms, hopefully there's some truth to the pub rumour seeing as Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter ill have to come here more to see what's going on

Greggs · Jul 1, 2023

clint van damme said:
I wouldn't have thought so.
Just heard a pub rumour tonight hes on his way, probably bollocks.

Depends which pub to be fair....

clint van damme · Jul 1, 2023

Greggs said:
Depends which pub to be fair....

The bullshit Arms!

Greggs · Jul 1, 2023

clint van damme said:
The bullshit Arms!

clint van damme · Jul 1, 2023

Greggs said:

The Gyokeres thread in gif form

its a buzzard · Jul 1, 2023

clint van damme said:
The bullshit Arms!

The Cock and Bull.

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higgs · Jul 2, 2023

The long shot

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hill83 · Jul 2, 2023

clint van damme said:
The bullshit Arms!

The Red Lying

skyblu3sk · Jul 2, 2023

I'd rather we went after 3 emerging talents for £2m each than put our eggs in one basket. Continue shopping as we have been but more of them.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Jul 2, 2023

Be amazed we were spending more than £4m on a replacement, and no way is Simms worth £7m. If it was around £3m with add-ons and a sell-on clause I think it was just about ok. Any more is silly money.

We need a few strikers so the money we have to reinvest needs to be able to bring in at least two replacements of a standard higher than Godden, Walker and Waghorn. Then we could still do with having a few million to bring in 3CB's and a RWB. I don't want us to be relying heavily on loans again, but I can see it being the case by and large.

Shame Undav started getting games at Brighton as I'd have really liked to have got him.

Hincha · Jul 2, 2023

shmmeee said:
He’s hardly proven either. Definite potential but £7m for me is crazy money for essentially a Prem U23

He scored 7 in 17 last year for Sunderland and their fans were saying he was getting better before being recalled by Everton - how is that essentially a Prem U23?

He was on to match Gyok's goalscoring record in his first full season with us and is younger & English. Would anyone have sold Gyok for 7m last summer?

The fee is inflated paper talk anyway (same as Gyok for 25m) - he'll probably go for 5m-6m which isn't that crazy.

It is all irrelevant anyway as we won't be paying it even for half the fee being banded about.

SkyblueDad · Jul 2, 2023

[QUOTE="Sky_Blue_Dreamer, post: 2790579, member: 9907
Shame Undav started getting games at Brighton as I'd have really liked to have got him.
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Loan ?

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Jul 2, 2023

slowpoke said:
[QUOTE="Sky_Blue_Dreamer, post: 2790579, member: 9907
Shame Undav started getting games at Brighton as I'd have really liked to have got him.

Loan ?
[/QUOTE]
Doubt it. Seemed to be playing quite regularly (and getting a few goals) in the last few games. Think he'll be a fixture of their squad this year unless they make some incredible signings.

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