Ellis simms (2 Viewers)

[fernandopartridge]

Mate put down the Ellis Simms doll and go to bed

Weird, I said he should have started today and generally defend him but there was an obvious contrast today in application between him and the player he replaced.

 

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[covcity4life]

I suggest you go through some of those 12 match threads and rating threads and , apart from the latter games , he was being rated very highly

That's my point. Some of us feel he's being rated too highly.

 

[Offhegoes]

I'm still a fan of Simms, but Wright has the CF shirt now. Remember that Luton game though, they played as front 2 and terrorised The Hatters, both scored too. Simms then picked up a niggle and Wright got crocked for 4 months 2 weeks later. Still think that would be lethal partnership moving forwards.

 

[Hobo]

A lot of Rudoni s headed goals have been down to Simms dragging players to the near post.

It's not always about what players do on the ball.

Simms first touch is erratic.
He can be a physical handful for defenders.
He reacts well to 2nd ball in the box.
He has pace once he gets into his stride.

He has a lot to offer. He is an old fashioned type of forward, physical and awkward. He is still young.

We need to make him more consistent and aggressive

 

[fatso]

Simms and Wright are totally different players who can pose the opposition different problems. It is a great example of why you have a squad.

It is interesting how people are all behind Haji Wright after a hat trick (and a brilliant hat trick).
But a lot of fans need reminding they didn't want him near the team today after his performance mid week.

Allen was brilliant too, but I have been reading posts for the last three years that he isn't Championship level. But in a match between two players off contenders he stole the show first half.

Having 1 good game here and there has been the story of our players for years.
To be successful you need to be consistent, that's what we need to see between now and the end of the season.

We've had a great run recently without playing too well, so if we can hit Saturdays level regularly, we could yet win the playoffs.

 

[SkyBlue_Adam]

I like Simms.. but he will never score the type of goals Wright did at the weekend

 

[Captain Dart]

I like Simms.. but he will never score the type of goals Wright did at the weekend

I don't see him chipping the keeper but...

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Not so easy is it, being a number 9 in this Lampard system...

 

[Evo1883]

Not so easy is it, being a number 9 in this Lampard system...

For some , its just not easy playing number 9 at all

Unless he pulls some magic off in the next few matches simms has had an awful season and we need to replace next year

 

[Evo1883]

6 goals in his last 46 league appearances

A goal every 423 minutes

Not good enough full stop

1 goal at the CBS in the league since April 6th last year against Leeds

 

[Ccfcisparks]

For some , its just not easy playing number 9 at all

Unless he pulls some magic off in the next few matches simms has had an awful season and we need to replace next year

Yet Wright looked just as hopeless at number 9

 

[Robinshio]

Simms play created the space especially for Rudoni and saka to play in,

 

[Evo1883]

Yet Wright looked just as hopeless at number 9

Has far more to his game and scored 4 in 4 recently despite a couple of average performances

 

[cstring82]

Simms play created the space especially for Rudoni and saka to play in,

And closed the defenders down for the Grimes goal. Whilst he should have scored against Hull I prefer him if it’s the lone striker role over any others we’ve got.

 

[Otis]

I have this sneaky feeling that Simms will do very well tomorrow.

 

[Evo1883]

I have this sneaky feeling that Simms will do very well tomorrow.

Well let's hope so eh , would be about time

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

Simms has everything going for him and works hard but hes still learning. He is relatively young and I think, like Gyok, he will suddenly peak. One more season left for me to progress or we flog him.

 

[mmttww]

Has far more to his game and scored 4 in 4 recently despite a couple of average performances

I think Wright is the better footballer, but you're not being fair here. He got three in one game where he was brilliant, and a rebound when he was stood offside in a game where he didn't show much.

Feels like Wright gets 'average' as his review when the same from Simms = 'sh*t'. Think there's some bias.

If neither scores regularly in that system, Lampard and the coaches needs to look at it if they want goals from that player. Neither is getting good through balls and neither is missing loads of good chances.

 

[Grendel]

Yet Wright looked just as hopeless at number 9

he scored a hat trick a few weeks ago

 

[Evo1883]

I think Wright is the better footballer, but you're not being fair here. He got three in one game where he was brilliant, and a rebound when he was stood offside in a game where he didn't show much.

Feels like Wright gets 'average' as his review when the same from Simms = 'sh*t'. Think there's some bias.

If neither scores regularly in that system, Lampard and the coaches needs to look at it if they want goals from that player. Neither is getting good through balls and neither is missing loads of good chances.

Wright plays the channels , can hold up the ball , can pass , can take a man on , can shoot .. simms looks like he won a raffle at Everton academy to win a pro contract

He does nothing well , I rarely give up on players but for me he moves on at the end of the season .

He might score 1 or 2 more this season but id still get him gone , we need better

 

[SleepyGinger]

Wright and Simms are levels apart

 

[eyesee]

the guy's been dicked about this season. he clearly is a confidence player, which makes the way he's been treated even more puzzling. just play the guy and the rest will follow. as it did last season. if we're not gonna do that then sell him to a team that will.
then we could buy another CF, drop him all the time, destroy his confidence, and expect him to score a hat trick coming off the bench for 10mins at a time.

oh, and btw, wright is not a CF. too lightweight, and can barely head the ball.
he's a winger.

 

[SBT]

Only three teams have scored more goals than we have this season - it’s a strange complaint to demand more goals from a lone striker position where pretty much every player we’ve tried there has struggled to regularly score. I’m just not sure this team is set up that way.

 

[Evo1883]

the guy's been dicked about this season. he clearly is a confidence player, which makes the way he's been treated even more puzzling. just play the guy and the rest will follow. as it did last season. if we're not gonna do that then sell him to a team that will.
then we could buy another CF, drop him all the time, destroy his confidence, and expect him to score a hat trick coming off the bench for 10mins at a time.

oh, and btw, wright is not a CF. too lightweight, and can barely head the ball.
he's a winger.

So robins and lampard have both messed ellis around because they dont know what they've got and its absolutely nothing to do with the fact he offers almost fuck all most games

 

[Grendel]

I think Wright is the better footballer, but you're not being fair here. He got three in one game where he was brilliant, and a rebound when he was stood offside in a game where he didn't show much.

Feels like Wright gets 'average' as his review when the same from Simms = 'sh*t'. Think there's some bias.

If neither scores regularly in that system, Lampard and the coaches needs to look at it if they want goals from that player. Neither is getting good through balls and neither is missing loads of good chances.

Id say it’s the opposite.

People on here mainly find anything remotely positive as an opportunity to back Simms but as soon as wright has a poorer game he’s criticised a lot more.

Wright was even getting blamed for not tracking back for the Hull goal which was ridiculous.

 

[Grendel]

the guy's been dicked about this season. he clearly is a confidence player, which makes the way he's been treated even more puzzling. just play the guy and the rest will follow. as it did last season. if we're not gonna do that then sell him to a team that will.
then we could buy another CF, drop him all the time, destroy his confidence, and expect him to score a hat trick coming off the bench for 10mins at a time.

oh, and btw, wright is not a CF. too lightweight, and can barely head the ball.
he's a winger.

The way he’s been treated?

Hes not a charity case

 

[Evo1883]

Only three teams have scored more goals than we have this season - it’s a strange complaint to demand more goals from a lone striker position where pretty much every player we’ve tried there has struggled to regularly score. I’m just not sure this team is set up that way.

Its about more than goals

 

[eyesee]

So robins and lampard have both messed ellis around because they dont know what they've got and its absolutely nothing to do with the fact he offers almost fuck all most game

robins had lost the plot after his spat with adi, that's pretty obvious.
and i just don't think lampard rates him. and he certainly wouldn't have seen his contribution last season.

The way he’s been treated?

Hes not a charity case

no, but a bit of man-management wouldn't go a miss.
if lampard is here next season simms will have to go. the pair aren't suited.

 

[Evo1883]

robins had lost the plot after his spat with adi, that's pretty obvious.
and i just don't think lampard rates him. and he certainly wouldn't have seen his contribution last season.


no, but a bit of man-management wouldn't go a miss.
if lampard is here next season simms will have to go. the pair aren't suited.

So its a managerial issue rather than a player issue ? I think thats incorrect

 

[covcity4life]

I think he's playing better than the last time I posted in this thread so that's something.

Still a ways to go though but I'm optimistic now he seems to be starting every game for remainder of season with wright on his left

 

[mmttww]

Wright and Simms are levels apart

Don't disagree when it comes to their attributes and capabilities. My issue is with similar performances getting different reviews. Also think Simms presses much more consistently in the no. 9 role for what it's worth.

 

[mmttww]

People on here mainly find anything remotely positive as an opportunity to back Simms but as soon as Wright has a poorer game he’s criticised a lot more..

You're probably right. Like I said though, my issue is that right now, both have played the same position for a few games and folks are letting one game (Sunderland) make their mind up re: who offers more in that role.

 

[Evo1883]

Don't disagree when it comes to their attributes and capabilities. My issue is with similar performances getting different reviews. Also think Simms presses much more consistently in the no. 9 role for what it's worth.

Which performances?