Saddlebrains
Well-Known Member
We wont win anything with that estate agent at the helm
North Macedonia really are their bogey teamThe Italians meanwhile showing how to achieve qualification.
God, we're in an almighty mess
Italy have been pretty shite since they won the eurosThe Italians meanwhile showing how to achieve qualification.
God, we're in an almighty mess
They weren’t even that good at the Euros, they didn’t have to be. Southgate has wasted some glorious draws and opportunities.*Italy have been pretty shite since they won the euros
Won 10 lost 7 drew 7
Italy have been pretty shite since they won the euros
Won 10 lost 7 drew 7
Italy have been pretty shite since they won the euros
Won 10 lost 7 drew 7
Germany are shite, what a huge fall from grace , nobody fears them anymore and they've won 5 of their last 17 internationals , lost 4-1 at home to JapanGermany sack their manager after a poor run of form, the latest being a 4-1 home friendly defeat against Japan. Rudi Voller put in temporary charge.
OK - no empathy for their people then, who are obviously all of the same mindset? I know you like being contrary, but if you can't see the suffering they are going through as individuals and as a nation, then that's a shame.
That’s fair comment to be fair.There’s some rewriting of history here. Italy were at the back end of a world record 37 game unbeaten run when they won the euros
such a good point actually. I went to Euro 2012 games in Donetsk and Kiev, ticket holders were sent warnings about how racist the Ukraine was.You look at the media coverage of the game and it’s all pretty strange - the brave Ukrainians, a nation with so much more to think about but bravely drew against England.
The reality is we as a nation have always been geopolitically opposed to Russia and view them as a threat. It’s purely based on that. Europe and the EU in general actually has never had such views - it’s bizarre brainwashing how we are supposed to empathise and sympathise with a nation we have zero natural affinity to
You look at the media coverage of the game and it’s all pretty strange - the brave Ukrainians, a nation with so much more to think about but bravely drew against England.
The reality is we as a nation have always been geopolitically opposed to Russia and view them as a threat. It’s purely based on that. Europe and the EU in general actually has never had such views - it’s bizarre brainwashing how we are supposed to empathise and sympathise with a nation we have zero natural affinity to
That’s fair comment to be fair.
such a good point actually. I went to Euro 2012 games in Donetsk and Kiev, ticket holders were sent warnings about how racist the Ukraine was.
(they weren’t at all in my experience)
Now it’s like they’re the angels of the world. Amazing how easy it is to manipulate people.
My sympathy is for the individuals who are having to endure the war. I have little allegiance/knowledge of the Moroccan nation (Chippo, Hadj aside!) yet i can empathise with the suffering that families are going through. Nothing against the Russian people - know a lovely Russian family. End of my input on the subject.
Germany sack their manager after a poor run of form, the latest being a 4-1 home friendly defeat against Japan. Rudi Voller put in temporary charge.
I used to work with a guy from Ukraine who was raised by two dads who ended up in Italy because it didn’t go down too well, which says it all.That’s fair comment to be fair.
such a good point actually. I went to Euro 2012 games in Donetsk and Kiev, ticket holders were sent warnings about how racist the Ukraine was.
(they weren’t at all in my experience)
Now it’s like they’re the angels of the world. Amazing how easy it is to manipulate people.
Wouldn't that be before our period of enlightenment?I used to work with a guy from Ukraine who was raised by two dads who ended up in Italy because it didn’t go down too well, which says it all.
He was born mid 1990s.Wouldn't that be before our period of enlightenment?
'It's bizarre brainwashing how we are supposed to empathise and sympathise with a nation we have zero natural affinity to'. What on earth do you mean by that?You look at the media coverage of the game and it’s all pretty strange - the brave Ukrainians, a nation with so much more to think about but bravely drew against England.
The reality is we as a nation have always been geopolitically opposed to Russia and view them as a threat. It’s purely based on that. Europe and the EU in general actually has never had such views - it’s bizarre brainwashing how we are supposed to empathise and sympathise with a nation we have zero natural affinity to
Presumably you agree that it’s wrong that other countries that have suffered in the same way haven’t had the same financial support in the way of billions of dollars and/or the chance for refugees to move to the UK?'It's bizarre brainwashing how we are supposed to empathise and sympathise with a nation we have zero natural affinity to'. What on earth do you mean by that?
Are you saying it is unnatural/bizarre for me to have empathy or sympathy for the Ukrainian people, as Ukaine is a nation that in your view I am supposed to have no (natural) affinity to? So am I wrong to care about the people there who have been killed, bombed, raped and tortured? Should I say that to my Ukrainian neighbour, who has had to leave her homeland because of the war, that I have no natural affinity her and her children and as a result I couldn't care less what has happened?
I don't base my affinity to someone on where they come from nor is my empathy or sympathy conditional on that.
I was responding to the view expressed that we as individuals should have no sympathy or empathy for Ukrainian people as allegedly we have no affinity to them.Presumably you agree that it’s wrong that other countries that have suffered in the same way haven’t had the same financial support in the way of billions of dollars and/or the chance for refugees to move to the UK?
1.5 million went to protest against the invasion of Iraq by their own countryPlenty of countries have been invaded since world war 2 - how many have seen the uk citizens with their flags and silly face painting and love and support?
Vietnam?
It should prompt similar overhauls in the German game to the ones they used just after Euro 2000. It is sad to see.Germany are shite, what a huge fall from grace , nobody fears them anymore and they've won 5 of their last 17 internationals , lost 4-1 at home to Japan
Rudi voller wasn't a bad striker was he
Because we’ve lost two games in the last year and we’re about nine months away from the Euros.It's laughable really. Why hasn't he gone?
He isn't getting the best out of anybodyBecause we’ve lost two games in the last year and we’re about nine months away from the Euros.
I don’t think he’s getting the best out of Foden, but be serious, there’s no way we’re sacking him over it.
1.5 million went to protest against the invasion of Iraq by their own country
I was responding to the view expressed that we as individuals should have no sympathy or empathy for Ukrainian people as allegedly we have no affinity to them.
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