Covstu
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That's fine then we will just accept it.
That's fine then we will just accept it.So waht's the plan ?
Kill every muslim ?
The west allowed + promoted ISIS and they did beyon a point, where it can't be stopped anymore.
I am afraid, we will have to get used to such gruesome acts.
Exactly, people calling for borders to be opened and thousands of young men from syria to just wonder in.
I am religious and I am proud of my beliefs, I respect others and expect the same.
A very small minority are going to cause pain and suffering to many others including others in the name of Islam.
I agree with others close our boarders, let them apply to get in, not get here then do so.
Closing borders doesn't make sense, as the Charlie Hebdo attackers eg were born + raised in France. Plus you would be closing the borders on exactly those innocent people fleeing that terror !
What we do is have to re-think !
This wave of terror is the result of 20 years of destabilising the middle east by the Western World.
Maybe we should stop bombing + invading every country, that does not think that Coke + McDonald's are the biggest gifts to humanity.
What will happen next ?
Another country bombed / invaded probably, producing more hatred and terror.
This does not have to do anything with religion. This blood (plus Charlie Hebdo, 9/11, London) is totally on our (western world) hands...
Don't worry you won't have to tolerate the diabolical Western World much longer. You can look forward to a far more tolerant and liberal society under the religion of peace
wrong on so many levels.Closing borders doesn't make sense, as the Charlie Hebdo attackers eg were born + raised in France. Plus you would be closing the borders on exactly those innocent people fleeing that terror !
What we do is have to re-think !
This wave of terror is the result of 20 years of destabilising the middle east by the Western World.
Maybe we should stop bombing + invading every country, that does not think that Coke + McDonald's are the biggest gifts to humanity.
What will happen next ?
Another country bombed / invaded probably, producing more hatred and terror.
This does not have to do anything with religion. This blood (plus Charlie Hebdo, 9/11, London) is totally on our (western world) hands...
We already have a tolerant and liberal society in Germany, which is why we accept people of whatever religion fleeing a war zone or perspectiveless camp in the vicinity of the war. The danger to this society is coming more from your direction ( e.g. "I am proud of my beliefs" as another poster said. Shows that ISIS are not the only ones proud of their ridiculous beliefs. ) and the so called "worried citizens" who would gladly throw parts of the Geneva Convention out of the window and go back to nation states looking after their own perceived interests. Been there, done that..... That is why Germany now has a liberal and tolerant society.
I am proud of my beliefs, they don't really stretch far, just so much as not slaughtering innocent people watching a concert. My concern is that if France has effectively lost control of the security of its capital city now where are we going in 20 years. Who
Is the strongest horse now, us or them?
These are despicable, cowardly attacks but I must say that the brass neck of Francois Hollande is breathtaking when he says he will now close his borders and tighten up on controls.
This is the man who only a few weeks ago together with Merkel, lectured other EU nations that they must relax border controls and accept binding quotas of asylum seekers. He even personally attacked Hungary and Slovakia for closing their borders. The French president said, "There are some countries that would like to pick and choose the refugees they host in the name of ethics or religion. There are some countries that would like to build walls."
Yes, it's possible that these attackers were French nationals but one of the few defences available to Europe against non-nationals are stringent border controls.
Its not racist to be concerned with boarder control and the influx of immigrants who on the whole have shown no respect for our way of life or values. They dont want to integrate. Its death and destruction and control.
What I find sickening is the almost smug satisfaction from some when these things happen. But then this is easily done until it arrives on your doorstep.
In other news we are going to light up some buildings so that should show the fuckers
Nice to see all the UAF-type apologists turning summersaults trying to justify their misguided views to themselves- suck it up - this is the kind of action you are inviting with your empty-headedness.
Anyway, IS have apparently claimed responsibility- who can blame them with all the outside interference in their little project in northern Iraq/Syria? UK next on the list no doubt.
Genocide has apparently been mentioned to pre-empt any such future attacks. That is a little excessive. I have found many of the muslim people I've known over the years to be very decent- I personally have a lot of time for people of faith- but I will say one thing: to a large degree their views are incompatible with those of modern western society, and even though many just get on with life, they will continue to produce sufficient numbers that detest western ways, and will be prepared to act on it. Our grandchildren will be fighting this battle unless we are prepared to grasp the nettle and act now. Do not expect our politicians to do anything- they are weak and incompetent.
This event is (probably) not connected to the current inflow from the middle east- yet! That will take a year or two- maybe ten or twenty, but it will come.
So I reiterate my earlier view: Islam has no place in Europe- to have them here will only cause problems- as it has in past centuries. Time for them to go- no genocide, nothing nasty- just tell them it was a bad idea, terminate their citizenship and give them a year or so to sort out their affairs.
We'll all be happier in the long run.
You sir, are what we call a fucking idiot.
Nice to see all the UAF-type apologists turning summersaults trying to justify their misguided views to themselves- suck it up - this is the kind of action you are inviting with your empty-headedness.
Anyway, IS have apparently claimed responsibility- who can blame them with all the outside interference in their little project in northern Iraq/Syria? UK next on the list no doubt.
Genocide has apparently been mentioned to pre-empt any such future attacks. That is a little excessive. I have found many of the muslim people I've known over the years to be very decent- I personally have a lot of time for people of faith- but I will say one thing: to a large degree their views are incompatible with those of modern western society, and even though many just get on with life, they will continue to produce sufficient numbers that detest western ways, and will be prepared to act on it. Our grandchildren will be fighting this battle unless we are prepared to grasp the nettle and act now. Do not expect our politicians to do anything- they are weak and incompetent.
This event is (probably) not connected to the current inflow from the middle east- yet! That will take a year or two- maybe ten or twenty, but it will come.
So I reiterate my earlier view: Islam has no place in Europe- to have them here will only cause problems- as it has in past centuries. Time for them to go- no genocide, nothing nasty- just tell them it was a bad idea, terminate their citizenship and give them a year or so to sort out their affairs.
We'll all be happier in the long run.
You are correct Ian, however I do wish that the Elders of all the Mosques in the World would but there hands in the air and say publically that this is wrong. I think that even some Muslims are scared to say what's right in fear of being ostracised.
I condone those acts of terror as much as everybody else does.
But Islam is as much a "religion of terror" or "religion of peace" as every other religion is.
Acts of cruelty have been commited in the name of Christianty as well.
Just spreading hatred will not change anything.
Killings + terror absolutely NOT are inline with Islam !
Remember the Norway attacks ?
Commited in the name of a Christian god.
BTW - Charlie Hebdo attacks commited by terrorists born + raised in France. So what should a border lockdown prevent ?
But sure it is easier to blame a foreign culture than asking what let them to.
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Nice to see all the UAF-type apologists turning summersaults trying to justify their misguided views to themselves- suck it up - this is the kind of action you are inviting with your empty-headedness.
Anyway, IS have apparently claimed responsibility- who can blame them with all the outside interference in their little project in northern Iraq/Syria? UK next on the list no doubt.
Genocide has apparently been mentioned to pre-empt any such future attacks. That is a little excessive. I have found many of the muslim people I've known over the years to be very decent- I personally have a lot of time for people of faith- but I will say one thing: to a large degree their views are incompatible with those of modern western society, and even though many just get on with life, they will continue to produce sufficient numbers that detest western ways, and will be prepared to act on it. Our grandchildren will be fighting this battle unless we are prepared to grasp the nettle and act now. Do not expect our politicians to do anything- they are weak and incompetent.
This event is (probably) not connected to the current inflow from the middle east- yet! That will take a year or two- maybe ten or twenty, but it will come.
So I reiterate my earlier view: Islam has no place in Europe- to have them here will only cause problems- as it has in past centuries. Time for them to go- no genocide, nothing nasty- just tell them it was a bad idea, terminate their citizenship and give them a year or so to sort out their affairs.
We'll all be happier in the long run.
I think that your ideology is massively at odds with British values. Perhaps you should be looking to leave the country?
What ideology might that be?
Agree but I wonder how the public view will change if there is an Equivalent attack on British soil again, I think it would be chaosIn the real world, every Muslim that I know is disgusted by Isis. Let's not let that get in the way of a bit of racist propaganda on the Internet though! Perhaps I live in a different country and am simply not aware of the ongoing civil war on Britain's streets
Agree but I wonder how the public view will change if there is an Equivalent attack on British soil again, I think it would be chaos
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