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[clint van damme]

Let's tear down every single statue of every single historic figure in the UK and every building that may have been erected through dodgy means.

Yes, .......and then everyone will be happy .

to be honest I'd never heard of this Colston fella before today. But I've now found out he brought 84,000 slaves from Africa and 19,000 died en route. I do wonder why did we have a statue of a man like that up in the first place?

 

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[Deleted member 5849]

to be honest I'd never heard of this Colston fella before today. But I've now found out he brought 84,000 slaves from Africa and 19,000 died en route. I do wonder why did we have a statue of a man like that up in the first place?

Funded a lot of Bristol through bequests.

It's complicated stuff around that time.

 

[David O'Day]

to be honest I'd never heard of this Colston fella before today. But I've now found out he brought 84,000 slaves from Africa and 19,000 died en route. I do wonder why did we have a statue of a man like that up in the first place?

Statue erected 80 odd years after slavery was abolished and was the statue was widely hated in Bristol.





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[clint van damme]

Funded a lot of Bristol through bequests.

It's complicated stuff around that time.

Jimmy Savile raised a lot of money for Stoke Mandeville but they haven't got a statue of him (I've posted that off the top of my head, please don't tell me they have).

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

to be honest I'd never heard of this Colston fella before today. But I've now found out he brought 84,000 slaves from Africa and 19,000 died en route. I do wonder why did we have a statue of a man like that up in the first place?

I guessing the Bristol colson hall was named after him.
You're right. I suppose he must have pumped a lot of money into Bristol at some point.
But the fact is that if enough people had lobbied the authorities to remove this statue in the ensuing weeks and the council had agreed it would have been symbolic . It would have shown willingness to acknowledge that the statute represents oppression and insults a significant section of the population . As it is, that opportunity has now gone.
These people aren't going about this in the right way.

 

[Nick]

Jimmy Savile raised a lot of money for Stoke Mandeville but they haven't got a statue of him (I've posted that off the top of my head, please don't tell me they have).

Now then now then.

At least the shell suit would burn nicely.

 

[Nick]

I saw a documentary that Liverpool has been built a lot on slavery too in the past.

 

[David O'Day]

With regards to the hills dale college link about churchill and the Bengal.famine would that as unbiased an educational institution with this statue?



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[Ian1779]

And no black man in sight no doubt. Hijacked by the left/antifa tossers.

More Facebook shite from you. Are you even capable of an original thought?

 

[David O'Day]

I saw a documentary that Liverpool has been built a lot on slavery too in the past.

While the rest of Lancashire was boycotting Confederate cotton those cunrs were making them ships

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[clint van damme]

I saw a documentary that Liverpool has been built a lot on slavery too in the past.

they've got a slavery museum up there. Apparently no holds barred acknowledgement of the citys part in the slave trade. I always meant to visit when I was working up there but never got round to it.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Jimmy Savile raised a lot of money for Stoke Mandeville but they haven't got a statue of him (I've posted that off the top of my head, please don't tell me they have).

It's a bit more complex in the past though, and if you airbrush Colston do you destroy Bristol itself next, given a lot of its wealth is based on such things?

Far better to hold up the mirror than wipe it away, ask the difficult questions about society as a whole. What you don't want us some kind of imperialist version, but you risk an enlightenment version if you hide things away.

It's in the fabric of the city, it's in the fabric of our nation. We can't be responsible for the past, we can strive to be better in the present, but we can't ignore it either.

 

[David O'Day]

More Facebook shite from you. Are you even capable of an original thought?

Loads of black folk on the protest

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[Deleted member 5849]

they've got a slavery museum up there. Apparently no holds barred acknowledgement of the citys part in the slave trade. I always meant to visit when I was working up there but never got round to it.

It's very good, fwiw

 

[Grendel]

It's a bit more complex in the past though, and if you airbrush Colston do you destroy Bristol itself next, given a lot of its wealth is based on such things?

Far better to hold up the mirror than wipe it away, ask the difficult questions about society as a whole. What you don't want us some kind of imperialist version, but you risk an enlightenment version if you hide things away.

It's in the fabric of the city, it's in the fabric of our nation. We can't be responsible for the past, we can strive to be better in the present, but we can't ignore it either.

I applaud the effort of rational thought but it’s pointless

 

[David O'Day]

It's a bit more complex in the past though, and if you airbrush Colston do you destroy Bristol itself next, given a lot of its wealth is based on such things?

Far better to hold up the mirror than wipe it away, ask the difficult questions about society as a whole. What you don't want us some kind of imperialist version, but you risk an enlightenment version if you hide things away.

It's in the fabric of the city, it's in the fabric of our nation. We can't be responsible for the past, we can strive to be better in the present, but we can't ignore it either.

Nah, he threw 19000 people into the sea and now he's down their himself.

People saw the slave trade as abhorrent even then.

Recognise the past but dont celebrate it

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[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

The PE teacher weirdo doesn't get what being on ignore means.

I feel for the children

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I couldn't give a toss. You'll read them all first thing in the morning anyway.

 

[clint van damme]

It's a bit more complex in the past though, and if you airbrush Colston do you destroy Bristol itself next, given a lot of its wealth is based on such things?

Far better to hold up the mirror than wipe it away, ask the difficult questions about society as a whole. What you don't want us some kind of imperialist version, but you risk an enlightenment version if you hide things away.

It's in the fabric of the city, it's in the fabric of our nation. We can't be responsible for the past, we can strive to be better in the present, but we can't ignore it either.

so perhaps replicate the Liverpool museum and stick the statue in there where the context can be appreciated rather than pride of place on a harbour but I get your point.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Nah, he threw 19000 people into the sea and now he's down their himself.

People saw the slave trade as abhorrent even then.

Recognise the past but dont celebrate it

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No one celebrates the slave trade. We all acknowledge it. We know it was wrong. We've known it for quite some time. You're stating the bleeding obvious.

 

[clint van damme]

It's very good, fwiw

I won't be working in Liverpool again anytime soon but would like to visit and would definitely like to visit this museum.

 

[David O'Day]

so perhaps replicate the Liverpool museum and stick the statue in there where the context can be appreciated rather than pride of place on a harbour but I get your point.

Nah leave the statue at the bottom of the water.

Bristol does want it

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[Grendel]

I couldn't give a toss. You'll read them all first thing in the morning anyway.

I’d imagine he’s a struggler in the class room. I am waiting for lockdown to be released and hear the knock on my door when he kicks my head in, I think I may need police protection from big bad David

 

[Deleted member 5849]

so perhaps replicate the Liverpool museum and stick the statue in there where the context can be appreciated rather than pride of place on a harbour but I get your point.

Museums are hidden away. You said yourself you didn't go to the one in Liverpool.

 

[shmmeee]

And no black man in sight no doubt. Hijacked by the left/antifa tossers.

Edit: why are British nationalists so keen to import foreign political wars?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I saw a documentary that Liverpool has been built a lot on slavery too in the past.

The most awkward is Glasgow becoming the second city of the empire from slavery while Scots were also claiming to be morally superior to their southern counterparts. Dundee as well, both cities voted for indy in 2014 despite having profited most from colonialism

 

[clint van damme]

Museums are hidden away. You said yourself you didn't go to the one in Liverpool.

i think that was my point, seems this statue was in a prime location which sort of glorified him without any reference to his misdeeds but like I say, first time I'd heard of him today so I don't really know the whole context of his story.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

so perhaps replicate the Liverpool museum and stick the statue in the

I’d imagine he’s a struggler in the class room. I am waiting for lockdown to be released and hear the knock on my door when he kicks my head in, I think I may need police protection from big bad David

Big chip on his shoulder. He's been wronged over several centuries.

 

[skybluetony176]

I guessing the Bristol colson hall was named after him.
You're right. I suppose he must have pumped a lot of money into Bristol at some point.
But the fact is that if enough people had lobbied the authorities to remove this statue in the ensuing weeks and the council had agreed it would have been symbolic . It would have shown willingness to acknowledge that the statute represents oppression and insults a significant section of the population . As it is, that opportunity has now gone.
These people aren't going about this in the right way.

Many Bristolians have been campaigning to have the statue taken down for years.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

i think that was my point, seems this statue was in a prime location which sort of glorified him without any reference to his misdeeds but like I say, first time I'd heard of him today so I don't really know the whole context of his story.

There's been controversy about the statue, and the wording on the statue, for ages.

 

[David O'Day]

Many Bristolians have been campaigning to have the statue taken down for years.

The hall has also had it's name changed

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[clint van damme]

There's been controversy about the statue, and the wording on the statue, for ages.

Oh right, like I say, not aware of the history. I know reading about it today it said some locals have been unhappy about it for some time.

 

[skybluebeast]

Imagine if Jeremy Corbyn had have had historically said similar things.

Or heavens forbid have connections to IRA terrorist, or do very little about the anti Semitic views of a lot of his own party back benchers.

 

[David O'Day]

Oh right, like I say, not aware of the history. I know reading about it today it said some locals have been unhappy about it for some time.

11k signed a petition.



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[Liquid Gold]

I guessing the Bristol colson hall was named after him.
You're right. I suppose he must have pumped a lot of money into Bristol at some point.
But the fact is that if enough people had lobbied the authorities to remove this statue in the ensuing weeks and the council had agreed it would have been symbolic . It would have shown willingness to acknowledge that the statute represents oppression and insults a significant section of the population . As it is, that opportunity has now gone.
These people aren't going about this in the right way.

Remove the Edward Colston Statue from Bristol City Centre | 38 Degrees

11,000 people. Nobody wants it here, it’s been a massive issue for years, Colston Hall is reopening under a different name after refurbishment.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

i think that was my point, seems this statue was in a prime location which sort of glorified him without any reference to his misdeeds but like I say, first time I'd heard of him today so I don't really know the whole context of his story.

It would be making a big statement if the council decided to put the statue back up.