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Harry Krishner · 2024-12-21T11:29:11+0000

All this "he's anti-muslim" bullshit is basically just that. It's a smokescreen designed to confuse and, most importantly, to take the momentum out of any potential backlash. My question would be who is behind such a smokescreen and why?

Such attacks are overwhelmingly carried out by Islamists and everybody here knows it.

Where are the examples of the "far-right" carrying out similar attacks? The bloke in the van at Finsbury mosque?

Ccfcisparks · 2024-12-21T11:30:20+0000

Harry Krishner said:
All this "he's anti-muslim" bullshit is basically just that. It's a smokescreen designed to confuse and, most importantly, to take the momentum out of any potential backlash. My question would be who is behind such a smokescreen and why?

Such attacks are overwhelmingly carried out by Islamists and everybody here knows it.

Where are the examples of the "far-right" carrying out similar attacks? The bloke in the van at Finsbury mosque?

Right so the years of tweets of anti Muslim and pro Israel rhetoric were all planted there?

shmmeee · 2024-12-21T11:30:50+0000

ccfc922 said:
Just like those that dance with glee when it's not a Muslim.

Personally couldn't care who's done it, but it's a reoccurring theme within Europe at the minute. Like people have said, they were desperate to pretend it was a choir boy and Christian with the Southport attacks.

Anyway, more importantly, the death toll is low thank God, considering what happened.

He was a Christian as far as we are aware aren’t we? I think he’s refused to speak so no motivations on record as of yet but nothing to suggest otherwise.

chiefdave · 2024-12-21T11:31:19+0000

Harry Krishner said:
Another Islamic terrorist attack?

Happy to retract if I'm wrong, but I'm probably not.

Harry Krishner said:
All this "he's anti-muslim" bullshit is basically just that. It's a smokescreen designed to confuse and, most importantly, to take the momentum out of any potential backlash.

shmmeee · 2024-12-21T11:49:04+0000

Harry Krishner said:
All this "he's anti-muslim" bullshit is basically just that. It's a smokescreen designed to confuse and, most importantly, to take the momentum out of any potential backlash. My question would be who is behind such a smokescreen and why?

Such attacks are overwhelmingly carried out by Islamists and everybody here knows it.

Where are the examples of the "far-right" carrying out similar attacks? The bloke in the van at Finsbury mosque?

Right wing terrorism tends to use guns like the school shooter recently, Brevik, Mair.

As for “overwhelmingly Islamist”, here’s the full list from here:

Vehicle-ramming attack - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

1973 - Mental Czech woman goes mental and rams her truck into people
1983 - Drunk Australian man rams truck into bar after being refused service
1999 - Mental Japanese man rams car after getting into financial triuble
2009 - Dutch man tries to ram Dutch royal family for reasons unknown
2014 - Incel American attacks a university because he couldn’t get laid
2016 - Islamist attack in France, you start paying attention.
2017 - Psychotic Australian drives into pedestrians
2017 - Psychotic Australian who may have been Muslim rams a tram stop
2017 - Islamist attack in Stockholm
2017 - Right wing American drives into a group of protestors
2017 - Islamist attack in Canada
2018 - Incel drives van into a group of women in Canada
2024 - Man drives car into an exercise track in China because of a divorce settlement
2024 - Seemingly right wing ex Muslim drives van into Christmas market.

Let’s ignore this one. Of 13 I make a maximum of 4 Islamist attacks. Which is roughly the same proportion as just random pissed off people and right wing incels.

Harry Krishner · 2024-12-21T12:20:11+0000

Your definition of right-wing would appear to be incredibly broad.

Let's wait and see, shall we?

Macca · 2024-12-21T12:48:06+0000

You know what it's an increasingly shit mad world so I for one wish all my fellow SBT members and their families a Merry Xmas and happy and healthy 2025

Como · 2024-12-21T15:25:51+0000

I would not quite go that far but she is up there with the greats

Otis · 2024-12-21T15:26:39+0000

Como said:
I would not quite go that far but she is up there with the greats

Kathy Burke?

rob9872 · 2024-12-21T15:30:25+0000

Otis said:
Kathy Burke?

I thought more Eddie Izzard

Sky Blue Pete · 2024-12-21T16:44:21+0000

shmmeee said:
Well he’s either Islamist or he’s right wing, they’re the only people who do this.

Extremists it’s certainly not limited to Muslims or far right groups worldwide

Sky Blue Pete · 2024-12-21T16:44:52+0000

Harry Krishner said:
All this "he's anti-muslim" bullshit is basically just that. It's a smokescreen designed to confuse and, most importantly, to take the momentum out of any potential backlash. My question would be who is behind such a smokescreen and why?

Such attacks are overwhelmingly carried out by Islamists and everybody here knows it.

Where are the examples of the "far-right" carrying out similar attacks? The bloke in the van at Finsbury mosque?

German interior minister it appears
Don’t he stupid you sound like a Twitter musk dick

Sky Blue Pete · 2024-12-21T16:45:59+0000

Ccfcisparks said:
Right so the years of tweets of anti Muslim and pro Israel rhetoric were all planted there?

Sleeper cell yep lol

PVA · 2024-12-21T17:57:46+0000

Harry Krishner said:
All this "he's anti-muslim" bullshit is basically just that. It's a smokescreen designed to confuse and, most importantly, to take the momentum out of any potential backlash. My question would be who is behind such a smokescreen and why?

Fucking hell have a day off.

shmmeee · 2024-12-21T18:52:54+0000

Sky Blue Pete said:
Extremists it’s certainly not limited to Muslims or far right groups worldwide

No as I showed it’s also generally mentally I’ll people with no ideology whatsoever.

ccfc922 · 2024-12-21T19:01:31+0000

Ccfcisparks said:
Nobodies dancing with glee whatsoever.

they are just pointing out when people should have egg on their faces, such as you, for jumping to conclusions

Literally cocks out wanking, look! It was a white fella! Look! Gammon!!!!

Sky Blue Pete · 2024-12-21T19:07:46+0000

ccfc922 said:
Literally cocks out wanking, look! It was a white fella! Look! Gammon!!!!

No one other than Harry everyone thinks he’s a c**t and it doesn’t matter what religion or none he is

ccfc922 · 2024-12-22T00:42:02+0000

Sky Blue Pete said:
No one other than Harry everyone thinks he’s a c**t and it doesn’t matter what religion or none he is

Nah, there's a sentiment. Fingers crossed it's not the "usual suspects" then euphoria when it isn't. I've seen it a few times now, not necessarily on here.

Personally, my initial reaction is always, why? these poor people being harmed/killed. Then anger towards the party that's guilty.

Sky Blue Pete · 2024-12-22T07:05:02+0000

ccfc922 said:
Nah, there's a sentiment. Fingers crossed it's not the "usual suspects" then euphoria when it isn't. I've seen it a few times now, not necessarily on here.

Personally, my initial reaction is always, why? these poor people being harmed/killed. Then anger towards the party that's guilty.

Same
Then anger at everyone who tries to use the incident to further their own points of view

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