I'm obviously wrong but always thought you cut the deal with the DA at the time of charging to go to court facing a lesser charge, not a deal on the sentence afterwards. Must have been watching too many American cop shows!Read an article in the Guardian that speculated that she may already have tried to cut a deal and the prosecutors are not interested as they do not want to deal with her. Maybe she was the 'big fish' they were after so why should they do deals to reduce her sentence to prosecute other 'smaller fish'? I don't think we have heard the last of it yet, am sure other things will follow.
Thought it was breathtakingly arrogant of her not to take the stand as she felt the prosecution "had not proven their case". That must have influenced the jurors.
Read an article in the Guardian that speculated that she may already have tried to cut a deal and the prosecutors are not interested as they do not want to deal with her. Maybe she was the 'big fish' they were after so why should they do deals to reduce her sentence to prosecute other 'smaller fish'? I don't think we have heard the last of it yet, am sure other things will follow.
Thought it was breathtakingly arrogant of her not to take the stand as she felt the prosecution "had not proven their case". That must have influenced the jurors.
The youngest victim in the Epstein/Maxwell scandal was 14, and most were in their mid to late teens. Which makes me wonder, at what age does someone move from child-victim status into a person who is responsible for their own actions?
When she was 15, Greta Thunberg began the school strikes and public speeches, which made her an internationally recognised climate activist
I'm obviously wrong but always thought you cut the deal with the DA at the time of charging to go to court facing a lesser charge, not a deal on the sentence afterwards. Must have been watching too many American cop shows!
I can’t believe on appeal it won’t be changed though grendel
Jan Moir (the ghoul who said gayness killed Stephen Gateley and somehow remained employed) waited until deep into injury time to try and claim the crown of worst take of 2021
The journalists in the Mail are generally vile.What a c**t she is. Hopefully the next article I seen involving her is her obituary
Not to be hugely cynical, but I’m guessing there’s political pressure for it to end with her.
I think she’s been convicted of Epstein crimes as well. Hers were bad enough of courseNot a chance she’s being charged now with perjury as well
What did he do?Have you read anything on the deal Epstein made after his first conviction?
Sickening.
What did he do?
You may very well be right and I could have totally misinterpreted what was said, have just tried to find the article and cannot.
Pure speculation here, but wonder how much affect the ongoing accusations against Andrew influenced Harry and Megan's decision to leave the family and move abroad. Pretty sure Magan would not have put herself in his company .
Got away with an incredibly lenient deal for being a paedo and those that facilitated got handsomely rewarded with promotions.
Would need to look up again which administrations were in charge, think it spanned more than one.
The journalists in the Mail are generally vile.
There's no way her convictions are going to be overturned on appeal, he was fully complicit and active in the facilitating and trafficking these girls for Epstein. She would have eventually been charged and found guilty of these crimes even if Epstien hasn't killed himself.I can’t believe on appeal it won’t be changed though grendel
If Starmer had any sense he’d jettison Mandelson ASAP.Talking about nasty journalists how are Mr Campbell and Mr Mandleson are feeling tonight
If Starmer had any sense he’d jettison Mandelson ASAP.
Talking about nasty journalists how are Mr Campbell and Mr Mandleson are feeling tonight
I do in all seriousness wonder if Ms maxwell was say Jacob Rees Moggs daughter if this would become more political
Him and Epstein more than comfortable buddies.What’s Mandelson done?
TaHim and Epstein more than comfortable buddies.
Him and Epstein more than comfortable buddies.
Mr Campbell and Mr Blair are very entwined with the Maxwell family
This will definitely ruin Blair’s chances at the next general election.
I do find it cute how the Corbynites and the Tories are singing from the same hymn sheet now
Mr Campbell and Mr Blair are very entwined with the Maxwell family
This will definitely ruin Blair’s chances at the next general election.
I do find it cute how the Corbynites and the Tories are singing from the same hymn sheet now
You can be sure that if we get to election time and Mandelson is still in the Labour fold that it’s going to become quite the talking point.They certainly are.
Like I said, you're the one trying to make it political.
Plenty on both sides should be worried. But I think Mandleson is the New Labour figure with most to hide.
To be fair calling out elites who think they are above justice goes beyond political affiliation.This will definitely ruin Blair’s chances at the next general election.
I do find it cute how the Corbynites and the Tories are singing from the same hymn sheet now
You can be sure that if we get to election time and Mandelson is still in the Labour fold that it’s going to become quite the talking point.
The Mail is vile xenophobic rag, surprised you’re actually defending it.The same old cliche
So they should. Anyone in that Black book or on those flight logs need thoroughly investigating, I don't give a fuck who they are are what their political persuasion.
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