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Grendel
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The whole thing seemed to be based on a rumour, no real basis to it and like you say Everton spent nothing because they've got nothing to spend
They are one of the few clubs who’ve spent less in the season then they’ve received in transfers and that’s been the theme for 3 years. They are paying the price for the madness of the prior seasons when they blew £350 million net spend
They are one of the few clubs who’ve spent less in the season then they’ve received in transfers and that’s been the theme for 3 years. They are paying the price for the madness of the prior seasons when they blew £350 million net spend
edgy
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I'm not so sure Everton were skint.
£40m in from Gordon sale
£22m bid accepted for Sulemana, but player turned it down
£20m + bid for Ndiaye rejected
Loan bid for Ismaila Sarr with £30m obligation to buy rejected by Watford.
Of course, you can say it was all made up for effect. I doubt it. Seems a bit far fetched and flat earthy to me.
£40m in from Gordon sale
£22m bid accepted for Sulemana, but player turned it down
£20m + bid for Ndiaye rejected
Loan bid for Ismaila Sarr with £30m obligation to buy rejected by Watford.
Of course, you can say it was all made up for effect. I doubt it. Seems a bit far fetched and flat earthy to me.
Yes I think if they really wanted Gyokeres they'd have got him.
Maybe he was a Lampard target and Dyche was not so keen.
WestEndAgro
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Apparently they tried to get Olivier Geroud at the last minute.
He wasn't interested either, it's pretty toxic up there atm.
He wasn't interested either, it's pretty toxic up there atm.
Calista
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Yes please shmmeee. What are my duties, can I work from home, and when do I start? Presumably I get paid holidays?
Calista
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I’ve been a fan of Vik from the start, even during the loan spell because despite the occasional clumsiness you could see he was physically so much stronger and more athletic than any striker we’d had for a very long time.
He’s improving all the time I think, but the weaknesses are still there – poor decision making / lack of awareness at times, and his finishing isn’t the best (if it was, he’d get 30 a season). My gut feeling is that he would have struggled to impress if he’d gone to Everton, and not solved their problems, at least in the short term this season. In the Championship he gets away with constantly turning and running directly at defences, but he’d definitely find that harder in the Prem, and would take a while to adjust and play a bit smarter.
Well done to King & Robins for their stance on this, which I think will benefit Vik too because he’s not quite ready for the top flight yet. I hope we offer him a long contract, build around him, and even if he doesn’t get into the Prem with us in the next couple of years his value will only rise IMO.
He’s improving all the time I think, but the weaknesses are still there – poor decision making / lack of awareness at times, and his finishing isn’t the best (if it was, he’d get 30 a season). My gut feeling is that he would have struggled to impress if he’d gone to Everton, and not solved their problems, at least in the short term this season. In the Championship he gets away with constantly turning and running directly at defences, but he’d definitely find that harder in the Prem, and would take a while to adjust and play a bit smarter.
Well done to King & Robins for their stance on this, which I think will benefit Vik too because he’s not quite ready for the top flight yet. I hope we offer him a long contract, build around him, and even if he doesn’t get into the Prem with us in the next couple of years his value will only rise IMO.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Wonder how much they spent sacking Lampard?
Grendel
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Their combines losses over 2020 and 2021 are nearly £300 m
For almost 3 seasons now they have not funded transfers other than that generated through player sales. The Koeman years in particular and then Ancelotti the net spend was well over £300m - there is also the suggestion of huge issues at with the new ground project with spend predicted at half a billon much of which has not been secured
It’s only the last 2 seasons to be fair. 3 seasons ago they had a net spend of about £65m.
fernandopartridge
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It isn't flat earthy, their financial position is dreadful. They have the very real prospect of relegation coming. They have a partially completed stadium which was going to partly be financed by a £280m loan from Liverpool City Council which is now not happening. The club's auditors walked away last year and refused to sign off the accounts (sounds familiar eh?).
Their owner is very close to Usmanov a Russian oligarch who has been sanctioned, it's thought that Usmanov was the actual benefactor of a lot of their spending over recent years.
It is not far fetched to suggest they have no money to spend nor is it far fetched to suggest that these proposed deals were all likely to be rejected so could be just playing to the crowd.
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edgy
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I'm not really disputing their financial position. Remember football clubs can be in debt up to their eye balls and still spend eye watering figures. However, I do (personally) find it unlikely that these deals have been fabricated to make it look like they were trying.
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I agree and I suspect Gyokeres knows himself that he is not yet ready for the Premier League especially at somewhere like Everton in their current plight. I imagine that is one of the reasons he didn't go in this window. A good second half to the season and he might be ready to step up in the summer, but he needs to work on those areas you mention.
Colin Steins Smile
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G you are spot on identifying the rising costs of the new ground, allied to the issues Everton have to manage in trying to comply with FFP. Most construction projects are running into significant increases in materials above the projected contingency rates.
If the are relegated, then it will be interesting to see if they have relegation clauses in the players contracts. Even if they have got those clauses how many of their players will be sold for the same amount they bought them for? Not many, is my guess, so if they can offload those players, they will still be paying instalments on the original transfer fees.
Secondly, they'll be receiving circa £47m in parachute payments in year 1, which will cut their direct income by £60m+ and if they don't get promoted next season then the direct payments reduce again.
This could make a very interesting Netflix programme
Brighton Sky Blue
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Someone will surely white knight a club of that size.
Colin Steins Smile
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You are probably right, but the current white knight has lost a massive amount of money and that could temper the scope for new investment
SkyblueDad
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Everton fans would never accept that, if they get relegated I’ll predict some serious protesting.
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Everton claimed to be buying Geroud as well on deadline day
Everton made a late move to sign £7.4m veteran but the forward rejected the move
In search of strikers, Everton made a late move on transfer deadline day to sign AC Milan forward Olivier Giroud on loan but the offer was rejected.princerupertstower.com
Who is Geroud? Makes me think of this:
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I think he is.
Offhegoes
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Tough one - Look at Adam Armstrong, brilliant in the Championship at Blackburn but can't score in the Premier League. Some players do make the step up effortlessly (Ivan Toney) but others don't like Armstrong, Dwight Gayle etc. Vik is a strong player like Toney, but his game is based on running at defenders. Toney is more of a old fashioned No 9. If the Premier league defences snuff out Vik's ability to dribble at them, then he will have to change his style as he's not a target man, or poacher, and his heading is not great either
Manchester_sky_blue
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He will go abroad I think in the summer (unless we fluke a promotion)
Sky Blue Pete
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Wow ok
robbiethemole
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I love this, my kids take the piss over me liking it hahaha
We used to run out to this didn’t we?
Sick Boy
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Based on what?
Manchester_sky_blue
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A number of things, his girlfriend being abroad for one, comments he made about interest from Dutch, German and Italian Teams.
Money talks though so who knows.
Sick Boy
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Unless he gets a move to a northern Italian team, he’s not going to be more than a 1.5-2 hours away from his girlfriend whether he stays in England or moves elsewhere.
He’s been signed to English clubs since 2018, so is going to be relatively settled and as you said he’ll go where the money is…which is most likely to be the PL.
He’s also going to be ambitious and both the Dutch and Italian leagues are nowhere near as good as the PL.
David O'Day
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are they still a couple?
Happy_Martian
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I've said before that I'm surprised European teams haven't been more vocal in their interest in Vik. He may only be a Championship player currently but he is a full International. And considering the finances of the European game, he'd be a lot cheaper than other players of the same level.
SheafIsGod
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Why didn’t we sell him while we could? He’s shite
robbiethemole
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Fuck off you twat
fatso
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If they'd of watched him last night when he missed 2 glorious chances, they'd wonder how we could possibly be asking 20+ million for him.