Nick
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It plays into fishers hands. He will have his material for the next interview.
It plays into fishers hands. He will have his material for the next interview.Cheers CVD. Think it is important that the unemotional facts are focused on. What happened yesterday will be used by the owners directors and certain media to discredit the fans protests and the organisations behind them. It will help them keep opposition to Sisu divided and to ignore any proposed alternative ownership
Pension discussion? It was Grendel hoping that I had a personal pension and didn't know where the money was invested so he could imply that it was in a hedge fund.No, it was only about the pension discussion. I'd go to the doctors if that distracted you.
I don't blame the trust for yesterday, I'm usually quick to jump on but they have made statements in the last week saying don't go on the pitch.No it sounds right. The bodies you mention though should I believe actually make a statement regarding it and say they condemn the behaviour. If they don't the semi final is likely to spiral out of control and if they get to the final I am sure it will all go very badly.
Can I have your ticket please?At the moment I am not going to the semi. I don't want to stand there and witness what I did yesterday.
Pension discussion? It was Grendel hoping that I had a personal pension and didn't know where the money was invested so he could imply that it was in a hedge fund.
Pension discussion? It was Grendel hoping that I had a personal pension and didn't know where the money was invested so he could imply that it was in a hedge fund.
Oh yes I do. We get a yearly statement telling us where the money is invested. And with the latest rules brought out none of it is allowed to be invested in high risk anything. Most of it has to be in minimal risk. As in bonds or similar.No it wasn't. All pension monies are invested in various funds and my point was that. I've got a final salary scheme and haven't got a clue where the individual funds are housed - as you also do not.
Don't blame you, mate. In fact, this is getting near the tipping point as a fans community, I feel...we're almost afraid to witness the horror on-field, coupled with knowing what horrors are going on behind the scenes.At the moment I am not going to the semi. I don't want to stand there and witness what I did yesterday.
I have genuine sympathy for the position you find yourselves in. I respect your right to protest, even if it disrupts the game, even it leads to a complete abandonment of the game. The situation is clearly desperate and the stakes are being raised. I don't know the exact goings on at your club but get the idea that someone is putting it's future at risk and I don't blame any of you for fighting hard against that. We had a bad owner very recently. We started to fight a bit, but ultimately we were very lucky that he left quickly with the law on his tail. No short memories here, I feel your pain.
Before today, the over whelming majority of reasonable minded Cobblers fans were sympathetic and many would have supported an organised protest of some kind if asked to as well. However, after today the majority of that support has shifted.
The trouble is that what happened today did not feel like a protest in the end. The flares being thrown initially, to chants of We Want Sisu Out I got. But then two lads who run onto the pitch and approach the ref and various players, clearly threatening violence, shortly after a red card has been given seems to have nothing to do with a protest. It was just thuggery.
Further pitch invaders again approached home areas with aggression and gestures stereotypically associated with football hooligans. How is that a protest? How does that support your cause?
An announcement is then made that if any more flares or pitch invasions happen the game will be abandoned. Order is then restored completely for the rest of the first half and the start of the second. Then the first goal goes in and suddenly flares rain onto the pitch as do supporters. Again, this had nothing to do with a protest and everything to do with trying to force the promised abandonment of a game you were now losing.
Trying to dress these acts up as a desperate protest just completely undermines your cause, and all efforts to gain positive publicity and garner support for it. If you want to get these people out, you need to be heard but you also need to win the argument.
I wish you every success in beating them. I genuinely do. We spoke with a number of Cov fans at the cup game last year and as with all clubs the majority are just sound, ordinary people and were very sympathetic to our plight then.
A successful campaign will need to unite and involve all of those decent, ordinary people and violence and intimidation will just alienate both your own fanbase and the rest of the football family.
For what it is worth, I think a complete boycott would be the best option. If literally nobody goes for half a dozen games they'll have to give in. Sadly it seems most football fans do not have the stomach for this though.
So you won't be going to the Millwall game then ? I'm sure that will produce more disgusting and nauseating actions than what you witnessed yesterday.At the moment I am not going to the semi. I don't want to stand there and witness what I did yesterday.
Oh yes I do. We get a yearly statement telling us where the money is invested. And with the latest rules brought out none of it is allowed to be invested in high risk anything. Most of it has to be in minimal risk. As in bonds or similar.
Or don't you have a clue about final salary pensions?
Well as Grendel works for JLR maybe they brought a shed load of bonds from the Rugby team they sponserOh yes I do. We get a yearly statement telling us where the money is invested. And with the latest rules brought out none of it is allowed to be invested in high risk anything. Most of it has to be in minimal risk. As in bonds or similar.
Or don't you have a clue about final salary pensions?
This is not the first time we've heard this from opposition fans. Would it not be sensible to listen and take things on board?Days like yesterday and posts like the one above just make less tolerant people think well fuck you then. I hope your club does go to the wall.
This goes back to what was said at the Trust meeting. The Trust and JHW have to be kept totally separate. That advice seems to have been ignored.Neither the Trust nor Jimmy Hills Way campaign organised or planned any form of protest for the game at sixfields and did not at any time encourage the use of smoke bombs or going on the pitch.
The actions that happened were planned and conducted by a small number of fans acting of their own accord.
At the moment I am not going to the semi. I don't want to stand there and witness what I did yesterday.
Well as Grendel works for JLR maybe they brought a shed load of bonds from the Rugby team they sponser
This is not the first time we've heard this from opposition fans. Would it not be sensible to listen and take things on board?
Guaranteed. Why do you think Grendull promotes them so much on here under the guise of slating them? It's obvious isn't it. He needs them to be successful to protect his pension
Make your mind up.
well it's obvious if they said then do it after all we are all mindless fansHe right Tony they said to these guys look throw some smoke bombs on the pitch and then invade it. Dont worry all you'll get is a massive fine a criminal record and a banning order.
They wouldn't want your type in Rugby, but then who wouldIf it was invested in such a Ponsi scheme I may end up having to sell up and live in Rugby.
To be fair I think I'm safe.
If it was invested in such a Ponsi scheme I may end up having to sell up and live in Rugby.
To be fair I think I'm safe.
Why? It's not like they're doing anything to help us. What do we have to lose by pissing of the fans of other teams?
You mean Rugby are safeIf it was invested in such a Ponsi scheme I may end up having to sell up and live in Rugby.
To be fair I think I'm safe.
If you can get the opposing fans to join you.Collective efforts of protest like the one at Charlton, seem to get a lot more air time and decent press coverage, than fucking off opposition fans and throwing a few flares on the pitch.
So why the hell are we having protests to raise awareness then? And if not to raise awareness, which is the usual reason given, what are the aims of the protest. Was anyone from SISU there yesterday, do you think they will even hear about what happens and if they do what difference will it make?Why? It's not like they're doing anything to help us. What do we have to lose by pissing of the fans of other teams?
Collective efforts of protest like the one at Charlton, seem to get a lot more air time and decent press coverage, than fucking off opposition fans and throwing a few flares on the pitch.
If you can get the opposing fans to join you.
Do you not think we have spoken to them.
We are always getting the word around this is a daily chore believe me they DON'T care, why should they half of our own don't care.
I don't know. Did the joint Blackpool Blackburn protest get more than a passing mention? It was very easy for the FL and FA to ignore too as it happened outside the stadium. We're at the stage where we need more direct action that the football authorities can't chose to ignore.
So why the hell are we having protests to raise awareness then? And if not to raise awareness, which is the usual reason given, what are the aims of the protest. Was anyone from SISU there yesterday, do you think they will even hear about what happens and if they do what difference will it make?
that's why this wanker has no credibity in anything he spouts
It makes a difference because the media hear about it and it raises the issues which the FL the FA and Sisu would not like to be aired. The Government at the moment are taking an interest in football governance. If all CCFC fans sit on their hands and do nothing then the parties mentioned above would be quite pleased. I haven't noticed( but may have missed it) any negative reaction to the Blackpool pitch invasion a couple of years ago. Most things I read and saw seemed to be positive about them. I may have got this wrong and just caught a glimpse on MOTD last night, but did their fans disrupt a cup tie at Blackburn by throwing tennis balls on the pitch? If they did then fair play to them. The issue of who owns football clubs needs to be investigated and sorted out by the authorities so that the issues at so many clubs do not happen in the future, so that all of this hurt and pain that so many feel won't be repeated.So why the hell are we having protests to raise awareness then? And if not to raise awareness, which is the usual reason given, what are the aims of the protest. Was anyone from SISU there yesterday, do you think they will even hear about what happens and if they do what difference will it make?
you are very close to that, but I'm still waiting for the I-player evidence that you lied aboutIs credibity a vegetable?
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