:facepalm: all I'm saying is, Nick says NOPM doesn't work and I'm saying NOPM does work for SISU :facepalm:Can we just stop using the word invest/reinvest when we just mean spend? As obviously they're never going to get a return on any of the money or they and if they did everyone would cry.
So do I think they will spend the money on the squad? No unless we've covered our costs, no. If we've broken even for the year after the sales then I'd hesitate a guess at maybe spending half of it and putting the rest toward next years running costs or a bit of back pay.
Not that that was what the initial topic was though...wasn't it around whether nopm works?
It is supporting SISU financially and CCFC as a supporter.Who is going to games to support SISU and not CCFC?
More bullshit.
you for oneWho is going to games to support SISU and not CCFC?
More bullshit.
It is supporting SISU financially and CCFC as a supporter.
you for one
You're not convincing anyone, Nick. You and others can bang on and on about how boycotting SISU simply harms the club and not SISU. You may be factually correct, but you will never convince others. Next season I will , for the first time since 1984 (and of course Sixfields) probably not renew my season ticket . Why ? I'm sick of what SISU have done to my club. They put money in , then destroyed the very foundations of the club, then told us to fuck off and stand alone. Stand on what ? The foundations of the club have gone.
....so that makes me a NOPM does it ? Well no. I hate the owners but I can't stomach watching my team lose week in , week out, with , importantly, no prospect of improvement or investment. I no longer enjoy what I watch. I'd rather spend my money on other interests. I'm not thinking NOPM, though the outcome amounts to the same thing.
NOPM isn't really measureable in terms of numbers. Sure, some say they won't go until SISU have gone. I say I won't go because the football's utter crap and there is no prospect of improvement. Oh yes and the owners are still SISU and that speaks everything for future prospects.
On the subject of fans disrupting matches and the likes of the various supporters groups involved in organised demonstrations etc, Irish Sky Blue puts it very well. The more angry and desperate supporters get , the more they will go it alone and take their own action without the need to "follow" advice. They're not so stupid, they don't need to follow social media or a group or need to be told what to do.
I should think there is likely to be more disruption as our season continues to spiral downwards. Saying it won't hurt SISU and simply hurts the club won't convince most people. The damage has been all of SISU'S making, not CCFC's. Rightly or wrongly, that's how it is, and that's how it's perceived. .
If SISU finally decide the club is not worth holding onto it won't be because of those loyal supporters who still go.
It wouldn't take much for a club of our size to be towards the top of Division 3 and 4. Add to this SISU going and being able to enjoy going to games again and I can't see why gates wouldn't rise again.Can't blame anyone for not going because its not enjoyable anymore. Lets face it there can't be many more depressing things to do every weekend.
But not going because its shit, even if that has been caused by our owners, is a lot different to claiming NOPM. You do have to wonder how many who throw NOPM are actually people who have just got fed up of going.
I'm not convinced that if SISU go the attendances will shoot back up.
that's the biggest thing IMO. you can have a rubbish season but then be looking forward to the next season hoping for better things. We don't get that.no hope
Can't blame anyone for not going because its not enjoyable anymore. Lets face it there can't be many more depressing things to do every weekend.
But not going because its shit, even if that has been caused by our owners, is a lot different to claiming NOPM. You do have to wonder how many who throw NOPM are actually people who have just got fed up of going.
I'm not convinced that if SISU go the attendances will shoot back up.
It can't get much worse now , you have become like chemical Ali. denialNo they just reduce the running costs of the club to balance cash flow. This is a fan ownership style of self sufficiency that some fans crave for.
It can't get much worse now , you have become like chemical Ali. denial
But we will be in Division 4 next season. We will win lots of gam......that's the biggest thing IMO. you can have a rubbish season but then be looking forward to the next season hoping for better things. We don't get that.
If no one goes and pay nothing they have to fund it at some level or ?Yawn.
How does it support SISU financially?
They sell players and the money doesn't go to the manager. So it is nothing to do with money coming in these days. The main reason we are bottom of Division 3 IMHOIsn't it true though? Less money in, they cut the costs even more?
People said this months ago, then there was massive surprise and shock when Fisher mentioned it.
If no one goes and pay nothing they have to fund it or ?
Yet has they seem determined to hold on to CCFC for some financial gain, whatever that maybe / tax etc then we will see
FFS we know that,do you have some sort of syndrome, and I am not being derogatory to people who have who take every detail literallyThere will never ever be a full 100% boycott.
They will just cut the costs so numbers balance. It won't hurt SISU, Joy won't be going homeless because people boycott CCFC.
FFS we know that,do you have some sort of syndrome, and I am not being derogatory to people who have who take every detail literally
No because if we end up with a few hundred people it might as well be noneSo it's a pointless argument isn't it?
No because if we end up with a few hundred people it might as well be none
No because if we end up with a few hundred people it might as well be none
but ignore the
Yet has they seem determined to hold on to CCFC for some financial gain, whatever that maybe / tax etc then we will see
We won't end up with a few hundred.
If that was to happen it would be the conference or something, SISU still wouldn't be putting any money in or losing out as they will have slashed the outgoings to suit.
transfer fees? are you for real, it will not continue as we will have no one left to sell and no academy of any decent standard you foolNo it wouldn't. There is transfer sales, sell on fees, PL fall out money. They could carry on with a youth team on that basis very easily
transfer fees? are you for real, it will not continue as we will have no one left to sell and no academy of any decent standard you fool
Possibly where we are heading, yet you miss the point . They are only here for a self serving reason and that is not football. Whatever that maybe but you can bet it benefits sisu financially, otherwise they would be goneWe won't end up with a few hundred.
If that was to happen it would be the conference or something, SISU still wouldn't be putting any money in or losing out as they will have slashed the outgoings to suit.
Possibly where we are heading, yet you miss the point . They are only here for a self serving reason and that is not football. Whatever that maybe but you can bet it benefits sisu financially, otherwise they would be gone
A couple of seasons ah good to be looking at the long term futureWe have Stevenson Willis Haynes Harries and Lameries - we have sell on clauses and add ons for Wilson and Maddison. The fess for these alone would fund a low paid squad for a couple of seasons at least
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