Israel - Palestinian Conflict (10 Viewers)

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Very few on here have denied that Hamas are terrorists. What I’m trying to work out is why far right people like you are still backing Israeli war crimes.

Assuming it’s some thinly veiled Islamophobia

It's not islamophobia. It's not far right. He's just winding everyone up.

 

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[hamertime]

Very few on here have denied that Hamas are terrorists. What I’m trying to work out is why far right people like you are still backing Israeli war crimes.

Assuming it’s some thinly veiled Islamophobia

I am not far right but I am right wing. As far as I am concerned after what Hamas did anything is on the table, imagine if that was done to us we would back the most volatile response. The things that were done show the mentality of the people you are dealing with. I class the vast majority of Palestinians as Hamas as they are ingrained in the population and it was the population that were holding prisoners. Israel is a civilised country aligned similarly with our mentality. Women can be who they want, anyone can. I agree with this freedom and i back anyone who promotes that. Also Israel is an important ally to the west also strategically. This country should and will do everything in its power to make sure israel remains. Should it have got to this stage no, Israel should not have tried to take more land but it is what it is now you can’t change that. Don’t think for one second anyone in the Middle East give a monkeys about us. I know what I believe.

 

[hamertime]

There are no Hamas sympathisers on here. I haven't read one single statement in their favour .
What you see as Hamas supporter is anyone who sees Israel's killings of thousands of innocent people as wrong. That's not the same . You need to get a grip of your emotions and respond a bit more rationally.
You wouldn't shoot anyone on here either. You're all talk and actually a nice bloke under all that bile and hatred.

I am totally calm, I don’t need to get a grip of my emotions I firmly believe everything I say. I am entitled to believe what I want. You are right though I am a nice bloke. Of course I wouldn’t shoot anyone lol

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I am not far right but I am right wing. As far as I am concerned after what Hamas did anything is on the table, imagine if that was done to us we would back the most volatile response. The things that were done show the mentality of the people you are dealing with. I class the vast majority of Palestinians as Hamas as they are ingrained in the population and it was the population that were holding prisoners. Israel is a civilised country aligned similarly with our mentality. Women can be who they want, anyone can. I agree with this freedom and i back anyone who promotes that. Also Israel is an important ally to the west also strategically. This country should and will do everything in its power to make sure israel remains. Should it have got to this stage no, Israel should not have tried to take more land but it is what it is now you can’t change that. Don’t think for one second anyone in the Middle East give a monkeys about us. I know what I believe.

Israel is doing the equivalent of us bombing Catholic areas of NI during the Troubles and killing tens of thousands of civilians.

Nothing justifies what they have done.

 

[hamertime]

You're in the minority , in the country too .

Israel are committing genocide

Really, our government think different. I think they know the truth more than you do. Israel is important to this countries security. It’s a foothold in a region that mainly despises us. The only important thing for me is this country no one else.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

I am not far right but I am right wing. As far as I am concerned after what Hamas did anything is on the table, imagine if that was done to us we would back the most volatile response. The things that were done show the mentality of the people you are dealing with. I class the vast majority of Palestinians as Hamas as they are ingrained in the population and it was the population that were holding prisoners. Israel is a civilised country aligned similarly with our mentality. Women can be who they want, anyone can. I agree with this freedom and i back anyone who promotes that. Also Israel is an important ally to the west also strategically. This country should and will do everything in its power to make sure israel remains. Should it have got to this stage no, Israel should not have tried to take more land but it is what it is now you can’t change that. Don’t think for one second anyone in the Middle East give a monkeys about us. I know what I believe.

Would you endorse Israel using tactical nuclear weapons to destroy Hamas ?
And please don't say no because innocent people would be killed. That would be ironic.

 

[Evo1883]

Really, our government think different. I think they know the truth more than you do. Israel is important to this countries security. It’s a foothold in a region that mainly despises us. The only important thing for me is this country no one else.

And by Israel killing over 13000 children , they are keeping us secure?

 

[hamertime]

Would you endorse Israel using tactical nuclear weapons to destroy Hamas ?
And please don't say no because innocent people would be killed. That would be ironic.

That’s a weird question. No because they don’t need to they will wipe them out anyway. They will smoke the rats out.

 

[David O'Day]

And by Israel killing over 13000 children , they are keeping us secure?

He doesn't even realise just north of Israel is one of our actual NATO allies which is a much bigger country.

 

[hamertime]

And by Israel killing over 13000 children , they are keeping us secure?

Our government has no concern about how many Palestinians are killed, all they care about is having Israel as an ally. A strategic ally in a region where would could attack any number of country’s in that region from. That’s the reality of it in my opinion.

 

[Evo1883]

He doesn't even realise just north of Israel is one of our actual NATO allies which is a much bigger country.

And a more powerful military than Israel too

 

[David O'Day]

And a more powerful military than Israel too

Yep, also the Saudi's can be a horrible lot but the UK is allied with them as well.

 

[hamertime]

There is not a chance the UK and USA will ever not back Israel. They put pressure on enemies by encroaching closer just like they are doing to Russia with Ukraine.

 

[Evo1883]

Our government has no concern about how many Palestinians are killed, all they care about is having Israel as an ally. A strategic ally in a region where would could attack any number of country’s in that region from. That’s the reality of it in my opinion.

The strategic country in the region is Cyprus for the British military , not israel

 

[hamertime]

Yep, also the Saudi's can be a horrible lot but the UK is allied with them as well.

On the surface

 

[hamertime]

The strategic country in the region is Cyprus for the British military , not israel

It’s an island, Israel is attached by land.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

That’s a weird question. No because they don’t need to they will wipe them out anyway. They will smoke the rats out.

Not as long as there are women and children to kill .

 

[David O'Day]

On the surface

They will are, as said we have multiple allies in the region including a more powerful one who is part of NATO

 

[David O'Day]

It’s an island, Israel is attached by land.

Yes and that is why it is strategically a better base than Israel.

Military 101

 

[Deleted member 9744]

And by Israel killing over 13000 children , they are keeping us secure?

Or themselves?

 

[Evo1883]

It’s an island, Israel is attached by land.

Cyprus is a strategic base for the British army navy and RAF , as its about 200 miles away from the middle east .

https://www.trtworld.com/middle-east/akrotiri-and-dhekelia-are-uk-bases-on-cyprus-island-fueling-israeli-arsenal-17493357

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

There is not a chance the UK and USA will ever not back Israel. They put pressure on enemies by encroaching closer just like they are doing to Russia with Ukraine.

Factually wrong.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

I am totally calm, I don’t need to get a grip of my emotions I firmly believe everything I say. I am entitled to believe what I want. You are right though I am a nice bloke. Of course I wouldn’t shoot anyone lol

Let's say Israel wipe out Hamas. What happens next ?

 

[David O'Day]

@hamertime in the interests of fairness I do feel that if you are going to argue military matters with Evo that should know he is an ex soldier.

 

[hamertime]

Cyprus is a strategic base for the British army navy and RAF , as its about 200 miles away from the middle east .

https://www.trtworld.com/middle-east/akrotiri-and-dhekelia-are-uk-bases-on-cyprus-island-fueling-israeli-arsenal-17493357

So if you wanted to launch a land attack where would be better, Cyprus or Israel?

Just get it in to your head no matter what Israel does the Uk and USA will always back it. No matter how many protests are done it will fall on deaf ears. Israel is an Ally that’s it.

 

[clint van damme]

They will are, as said we have multiple allies in the region including a more powerful one who is part of NATO

An actual expert says the strategic importance argument is bollocks

 

[hamertime]

@hamertime in the interests of fairness I do feel that if you are going to argue military matters with Evo that should know he is an ex soldier.

So?

 

[Grendel]

How would you know the closest you have ever got to one is when you fell out of one in the old ball

That genuinely is hilarious - and true

 

[Grendel]

He doesn't even realise just north of Israel is one of our actual NATO allies which is a much bigger country.

You did of course question @Evo1883 on the Ukraine thread and seemed then to believe his military knowledge was irrelevant

 

[David O'Day]

Always on his mind, yet he is always on ignore

 

[Grendel]

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Always on his mind, yet he is always on ignore

Oh dear a terrorist sympathiser is raging

 

[SBT]

There are no Hamas sympathisers on here. I haven't read one single statement in their favour .

Hasn’t stopped more than one poster from suggesting there is widespread support for Hamas on here - a bizarre claim at the time, even more grotesque today

 

[wingy]

Cyprus is a strategic base for the British army navy and RAF , as its about 200 miles away from the middle east .

https://www.trtworld.com/middle-east/akrotiri-and-dhekelia-are-uk-bases-on-cyprus-island-fueling-israeli-arsenal-17493357

Bit crowded though probably get more crowded soon!!

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Oh dear a terrorist sympathiser is raging

He's a military expert himself, of sorts.
That iconic Adams avatar has never quite gone away.

 

[David O'Day]

He's a military expert himself, of sorts.
That iconic Adams avatar has never quite gone away.

Neither has the fact that you had posts deleted for racism.