Evo1883
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By winter period do you mean the 5 months between november and April
Because that winter period does a lot of heavy lifting on here.
Agreed but Lawrence and Adi were also here when things were going well.
It was a once-in-a-generation thing that required an historic amount of luck to happen. It’s not a repeatable feat and we shouldn’t let it cloud our judgment of the people involved. That goes for Binks, Dasilva and Tavares etc as much as it does for Robins.Arguably the best two days I've had following Coventry.
I would take that and midtable every season.
That's not been all season though , bad performances and poor form have seen a variation of players starting , lampard currently not picking simms , kitching and bidwell tooIt is, but they weren't (mainly) first choice last season. Kitching, Bidwell, Eccles and Simms would of started last season.
My point is we appear to be playing too many of last seasons second 11.
It was a once-in-a-generation thing that required an historic amount of luck to happen. It’s not a repeatable feat and we shouldn’t let it cloud our judgment of the people involved. That goes for Binks, Dasilva and Tavares etc as much as it does for Robins.
It was a once-in-a-generation thing that required an historic amount of luck to happen. It’s not a repeatable feat and we shouldn’t let it cloud our judgment of the people involved. That goes for Binks, Dasilva and Tavares etc as much as it does for Robins.
I didn’t say he was judged solely by that - I certainly don’t, anyway. But it’s frequently cited on here as an example of this team supposedly being better than it currently looks. Personally I don’t think it counts for much at all.Robins isn't judged based off his fa cup semi final , it's a part of several achievements of his at the club .
I don't understand why Lamps doesn't pick Kitching, there must be something going on we arnt hearing about, he dropped Bidwell after 1 poor performance, but still picks Binks, Collins and Dasilva despite numerous poor games.That's not been all season though , bad performances and poor form have seen a variation of players starting , lampard currently not picking simms , kitching and bidwell too
I didn’t say he was judged solely by that - I certainly don’t, anyway. But it’s frequently cited on here as an example of this team supposedly being better than it currently looks. Personally I don’t think it counts for much at all.
Jay Dasilva and Luis Binks nearly dragged us into an FA Cup final after tearing Man Utd a new one, but guess what? They’re still shit.
Eccles is solid at right backGranted. But he has no alternative for Van Ewijk. Crap though he’s been. His clearance for the third goal was one of a five year old.
Eccles is solid at right back
At this point either his attitude is terrible or the club are avoiding an appearance fee over a period of timeI don't understand why Lamps doesn't pick Kitching, there must be something going on we arnt hearing about, he dropped Bidwell after 1 poor performance, but still picks Binks, Collins and Dasilva despite numerous poor games.
It just doesn't make any sense.
He plays Torp in midfield at the expense of Eccles and then moans about a lack of aggression??? Well no fucking shit Sherlock!
Relax, I think Robins was great, because of all the league stuff. The cup stuff was just window dressing.Ok you're right , before mark robins came back we had finished in the top 10 of any division 4 times In 47 years .
We just finished in the top 10 of our divisions 5 times in 7 years with 1 playoff final victory , a league 1 title and a chanpionship playoff final defeat .
We also so happened to almost produce the greatest fa cup semi final comeback of all time after producing one of our greatest fa cup victories in our history at molineux a few week earlier .
But absolutely , go off
(Haven't even included the checkatrade final win )
Maybe. That's the only logical explanation.At this point either his attitude is terrible or the club are avoiding an appearance fee over a period of time
Relax, I think Robins was great, because of all the league stuff. The cup stuff was just window dressing.
Still can't get my head around the fact that you always credit these achievements solely to Robins - never any mention of Lawrence or Adi. The simple fact is with the exception of the Cup SF the rest of the time after this team of 3 split up performances and results were very poor.Ok you're right , before mark robins came back we had finished in the top 10 of any division 4 times In 47 years .
We just finished in the top 10 of our divisions 5 times in 7 years with 1 playoff final victory , a league 1 title and a chanpionship playoff final defeat .
We also so happened to almost produce the greatest fa cup semi final comeback of all time after producing one of our greatest fa cup victories in our history at molineux a few week earlier .
Well play five at the back...Bidwell, Thomas, Kitching, Lati and Eccles. Play 2 up front, as well, Simms and Basette, 3 in midfield.I don't think he's ever played there, only RWB.
Still can't get my head around the fact that you always credit these achievements solely to Robins - never any mention of Lawrence or Adi. The simple fact is with the exception of the Cup SF the rest of the time after this team of 3 split up performances and results were very poor.
That's why I included Lawrence , a point which you conveniently chose to ignore. That's when the rot defensively set in.The manager at any club gets the credit , when discussing the greatest managers of all time do you mention Mike phelan with alex ferguson ?
Every manager has assistants and coaches that help them , that's at every club it's called staff
He only had 14 games without adi , and last season we started just as poorly with adi
That's why I included Lawrence , a point which you conveniently chose to ignore. That's when the rot defensively set in.
Do you mention Clough without Peter Taylor or Curtis without Sillet ?
We have been there but comparing the Lampard reign to the Robins one after these few games is ridiculous.I just don't agree with you mate , been there though ain't we.
Boxing on now PUSB
We have been there but comparing the Lampard reign to the Robins one after these few games is ridiculous.
With our "elite tactician" & coaching team, you'd expect an immediate upturn in results & performances or at the very least significant signs of improvement, especially given the very favourable fixtures.We have been there but comparing the Lampard reign to the Robins one after these few games is ridiculous.
Even with the dire defence that's been inherited from a previous regime? You think that "significant signs of improvement " occur immediately? Good job it wasn't an era where Alex Ferguson could have been appointedWith our "elite tactician" & coaching team, you'd expect an immediate upturn in results & performances or at the very least significant signs of improvement, especially given the very favourable fixtures.
Lawrence was here for two seasons and was third in charge.That's why I included Lawrence , a point which you conveniently chose to ignore. That's when the rot defensively set in.
Do you mention Clough without Peter Taylor or Curtis without Sillet ?
How many goals come from balls in from JDS side?Teams are targeting him he is useless.As with most things, football is simply not just black or white.
That was an abomination of a performance in the end today. We did however, start off incredibly well and looked like we could score at will.
We should have been at least two nil up. But it was an really terrible effort by Bassette.
Got that goal and we would have continued with the same swagger, I'm sure. Pompey heads would have dropped too. We made them look very ordinary. We could have easily won this game today. Such fine margins.
What the problem is, is that we have a soft underbelly and continue to make absolutely horrendous mistakes.
It's such a fine line. In the end though, we looked like relegation fodder, for sure. It was a million miles away from the way we started the game however.
We are too fragile and brittle and our belief can swiftly evaporate at times.
We showed what we could do in that first 10 mins. We looked a good side, albeit, against poor opposition.
There IS something there, but we have to cut out the ridiculous errors and that should be Collins and Dasilva gone, unfortunately.
Very poor keeping and very poor defending from JDS.
They HAVE to be replaced.
Some smart dealing in January and I am sure we will be fine.
That's trying to take nothing away from that most horrific effort in the end today.
You said yourself that they weren't "dire" when Lawrence was here so, yeah... If we're led to believe that we now have "elite" coaching they should be able to show at least some sign of improvement rather than getting worse whilst playing against the worst teams in the division.Even with the dire defence that's been inherited from a previous regime? You think that "significant signs of improvement " occur immediately? Good job it wasn't an era where Alex Ferguson could have been appointed
Listening to Lampard’s interview on the phone-in on Friday night, it sounded as though Kitching was in contention for the Millwall game but got sick and couldn’t train which ruled him out. Clean sheet and he’s back to square one.I don't understand why Lamps doesn't pick Kitching, there must be something going on we arnt hearing about, he dropped Bidwell after 1 poor performance, but still picks Binks, Collins and Dasilva despite numerous poor games.
It just doesn't make any sense.
He plays Torp in midfield at the expense of Eccles and then moans about a lack of aggression??? Well no fucking shit Sherlock!
I didn’t say he was judged solely by that - I certainly don’t, anyway. But it’s frequently cited on here as an example of this team supposedly being better than it currently looks. Personally I don’t think it counts for much at all.
Jay Dasilva and Luis Binks nearly dragged us into an FA Cup final after tearing Man Utd a new one, but guess what? They’re still shit.
Yes - a 9th place finish.So the league form showed what can be achieved with these players.
Yes - a 9th place finish.
Because the players were exhausted and fatigued and the squad was too small.Yes - a 9th place finish.
It’s a bigger squad than the one we currently have!Because the players were exhausted and fatigued and the squad was too small.
And?It’s a bigger squad than the one we currently have!
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