Otis
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As I said before, smoke and mirrors.
As I said before, smoke and mirrors.Well I stated I will sit back and watch as we reach 9 pages of argument, did not expect it to turn into a capacity debate though.
Lets be honest though, does anyone really truthfully expect SISU/CCFC to build a new stadium? whether this be with CRFC of in a different location? personally I simply do not believe they will. It all about stressing others business models and then like vultures they dive in to pick up the pieces. They have to be seen by the Football League to be pro active in seeking a new stadium.
I foresee this.. they will make the odd inquiry with local councils around Warwickshire to show up on FOI, they will then make some initial approach with CRFC about a ground share/development, depending on the transfer of lease for Butts Park Arena. Wasps will then come back to the table to negotiate with CCFC/SISU, SISu will then sign a 5-10 year deal with Wasps and the saga will continue until JR1/JR2/JR3/JR4 have all been exhausted.
So capacity will not be an issue, the terms and conditions of our rental with Wasps will be.
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If it were evened out.
Unfortunately a lot more people would rather watch Chelsea, Arsenal, West Ham or Spurs than Brentford or Leyton Orient.
How was Burnleys promotion a freak. How about Watford. Doubt if either of those or Swansea, QPR or reading would swap with us now let alone Bournmouth.
There is no direct correlation between clubs succeeding in the championship and ground capacity. Other factors are far more significant.
Wow. I didn't know you could do that.Well yeah, but I did some maths on the internet.
I would swap who runs their clubs for SISU. Then our chances of success would multiply.
The owner is usually the most important factor.
You have completely missed the point.
Which you may achieve with a ground regardless of capacity
So take one for the team and agree that upping your estimate for a potential capacity wouldn't be a bad idea. Come on, you can do it.
If there was a stadium to be built with expansion potential I genuinely would start at around 20,000
Also the city has changed immeasurably in terms of demographics and has a lot of newly arrived communities (40%+ minority ethnic group in primary school, compared to thr whole city in the 2001 ~9%), this reduces the pool of potential customers going forward.
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Surely this increases the pool?
No, because the city hasn't particularly increased, and newly arrived communities tend to be poorer and have less disposable income, and have different priorities for the money they do have.Surely this increases the pool?
Ethnic minorities don't go to the football. I've never been, it's all been a lie.
I didn't mean that Hill. I'm thinking more of Chinese students, polish and eastern European communities, romanians, roma gypses, black French speaking African communities, those from iraq/Iran/Afghanistan, somalia, etc.Ethnic minorities don't go to the football. I've never been, it's all been a lie.
No, because the city hasn't particularly increased, and newly arrived communities tend to be poorer and have less disposable income, and have different priorities for the money they do have.
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I know quite a lot of Polish people who go up to the City on occasion.A lot of them also settle permanently and make a good living for themselves. Encouraging them to support the local football team is a great way of integrating them into the wider community.
I didn't mean that Hill. I'm thinking more of Chinese students, polish and eastern European communities, romanians, roma gypses, black French speaking African communities, those from iraq/Iran/Afghanistan, somalia, etc.
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Come on, add 2.5k to that and I'll give you a cuddle.
I didn't mean that Hill. I'm thinking more of Chinese students, polish and eastern European communities, romanians, roma gypses, black French speaking African communities, those from iraq/Iran/Afghanistan, somalia, etc.
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22,499 would be acceptable.
Swansea are after a new stadium expansion because they have established themselves first.
Which is exactly what I said
As many have said your username is the ultimate in irony.
Do you think his parents would have been able to afford season ticket or to have gone to matches regularly? My point was paying customersDo you mean... As in Bigirimana ethnic minority Burundi types... You must be right, they don't like football do they!
I didn't mean that Hill. I'm thinking more of Chinese students, polish and eastern European communities, romanians, roma gypses, black French speaking African communities, those from iraq/Iran/Afghanistan, somalia, etc.
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I still say you look like Ian Browns lovechild, your latest avatar only confirming that. Is Manc an ethnic minority?
Odd I thought it was size of stadium as you need 30,000 to show ambition.
Do you think his parents would have been able to afford season ticket or to have gone to matches regularly? My point was paying customers
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I feel like I should be annoyed, but he does resemble me slightly. Still annoyed though.
I didn't mean that Hill. I'm thinking more of Chinese students, polish and eastern European communities, romanians, roma gypses, black French speaking African communities, those from iraq/Iran/Afghanistan, somalia, etc.
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Yes, Brits on the same structure struggle to afford to go to the football regularly. Not all newly arrived communities have recourse to public funding and like Brits not all are working, and where they are working they are more likely to be in the lowest paid jobs and living in the most deprived areas of the city.When you live in a western society with work places that have "Minimum wage structures" it means people from all cultures and backgrounds are on equal footing(Wage wise) So by your philosophy can't afford to go to games. What about Brits who are on the same wage structure?
Yes, Brits on the same structure struggle to afford to go to the football regularly. Not all newly arrived communities have recourse to public funding and like Brits not all are working, and where they are working they are more likely to be in the lowest paid jobs and living in the most deprived areas of the city.
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Yes, Brits on the same structure struggle to afford to go to the football regularly. Not all newly arrived communities have recourse to public funding and like Brits not all are working, and where they are working they are more likely to be in the lowest paid jobs and living in the most deprived areas of the city.
The minimum wage equates to £940 per month, and that's before you deduct rent (~£500), electric and gas (probably on more expensive payg metres), council tax, food, phone, clothing, nappies, busfare's, etc.
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You're talking bollocks. I said nothing about them not liking football and made the point about not having disposable income.Stop talking complete bollocks mate! You mention Afghanistan/Iran/China/Iraq. Chinese worship football and whilst students are over in Britain will definately attend games. Iran..Same, Iraq..Same, Afghanistan Love their football also. Their living conditions and wage structure completely overwhelm standards back home in there own countries. Your philosophy just doesn't "Stand up"
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