skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
Naive has nothing to do with it. The final say comes from Westminster. That's not a naive assumption that's a fact.
If you really don't recognise how a local authority can deliberately act with malice towards a particular business, or how it can manipulate the planning system, you're very naive.
Yes, cos they will never, ever build it.You said they don't build near houses, you got some examples and it's smoke and mirrors?
Some of those living in the retirement village may not be happy, but it comes down to due diligence on their part doesn't it. As I said, there's been a sports stadium there since the 1880s.
You can explore all you want, but at the end of the day you need investors to inject hard cash to fund such a project. With SISU that ain't happening. Ever. Ever.I think the opposite, call them out on it.
Didn't the trust also say it was worth exploring?
Exactly.There hasn't been a 15000 let alone 25000 stadium there before - and there is no planning permission for a stadium that big. So how have the OAPs not done due diligence? If anyone should be checking things out it is SISU who should be looking for solutions instead of claiming an embargo.
So call them out, everybody act like it's a great idea and see what happens.Exactly.
Sorry, but the stadium being there since 1880 just doesn't wash.
No one would have ever envisaged a 25,000 seater stadium at the Butts.
And it has been made perfectly clear even by Cov themselves that they don't want a 25,000 seater stadium there and it would be far too big for them.
We are not talking about a 3,000 to 5,000 seater rise. Local residents and the retirement home could have no complaints over that surely, but an increase from 3,000 to 25,000!!! That is off the scale. An absolutely huge increase beyond all reason.
As I and many others keep saying, the opposition would be absolutely immense and it simply wouldn't happen.
Call them out? I suppose you mean like we have already since Fisher said 3 weeks. There was the pictures of the stadium. And then there was the freedom of information act where we contacted councils all around the surrounding areas of Coventry. Then the same with Rugby as that was suggested by Fisher.So call them out, everybody act like it's a great idea and see what happens.
Some of those living in the retirement village may not be happy, but it comes down to due diligence on their part doesn't it. As I said, there's been a sports stadium there since the 1880s.
So call them out, everybody act like it's a great idea and see what happens.
Good point.perhaps they haven't. Maybe this is what the no professional football covenant was all about.
Call them out? I suppose you mean like we have already since Fisher said 3 weeks. There was the pictures of the stadium. And then there was the freedom of information act where we contacted councils all around the surrounding areas of Coventry. Then the same with Rugby as that was suggested by Fisher.
Are you just obsessed with having something else to blame CCC for? Anyone being honest about the location knows that there are various reasons for it not to happen. To me this is why they are saying that they want to build there. We know it won't happen but we can't prove it this time. Years could go by fighting planning regulations. Years of local residents fighting against proposals. And none of this can happen until CRFC have the lease without clauses stopping the build. Then wait until plans are drawn up where a stadium the size needed could fit. The list is endless.
And in this time it does just what SISU want. It buys them time where they can continue with JR's and hoping it all goes tits up for Wasps.
And what happens if SISU and Wasps continue to not negotiate on us staying at the Ricoh? So we end up having to leave again. SISU then go back to the FL to say we have to leave Coventry again as we have nowhere to play. So we end up playing wherever someone will have us. Many of our supporters will blame CCC just because they can. We get divided again like when we went to Northampton. SISU get let off the hook. The FL have the choice of letting us move again or kick us out of the football league. Or maybe even play our home games away. How much lower can we go?
I haven't mentioned ccc have I?
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/council-official-says-attempt-b-11353953Good point.
Be interested to know where this covenant originated from and why.
Some of those living in the retirement village may not be happy, but it comes down to due diligence on their part doesn't it. As I said, there's been a sports stadium there since the 1880s.
Not yetas Mart saidI haven't mentioned ccc have I?
Well I'm going to have a stab at calling it.
If you look at the timeline and the articles there appears to be a pattern.
The first Les Reid article came swiftly behind the last failure in court.
Fisher was happy to comment and put up numbers of 12-15k capacity, stating also that it was CRFC's baby with the funding created through development around the stadium.
We all ruminated over it on here like having our bellies tickled to the point of delirium.
It was pointed out that the size muted would be inadequate.
Subsequent articles pointed to CCC interference, Covenants and sniffing out strategies involving embarrassing emails at the Council house.
We all having been distracted by Mowbrays amazing brand of football were in for a Jolt.
Other bodies and and facility owners we rely on drew their horns in.
To what end and strategy is unclear,certainly for any fear of being battered in court they've adopted very Cavalier attitude, maybe Nigel Benn is mentoring them all.
At this point IIRC Chris Anderson caught up with events but I can't remember if it's here or announcing his departure where the next Les Reid article comes in?
Reluctantly Fisher spoke up in dismay at John Sharp jumping the gun -yeah right!
The next article had Simon heralding at 11pm one evening that Millerchip had indeed agreed to sell the groundlease to John Sharp without pre-conditions.
Wow what a sea change
No comment from Reid Sharp or Fisher until the SCG and yesterday's article from Simon.
I'd say the calling out has been occurring for at least six months and,
As Skybluetony176 says the activity over Ryton has obviously dominated Laura Deerings time in the boardroom.
Just one or two inconsistencies need clearing up for the benefit of both sets of fans, Stadium size and just who's baby is it?
Not yetas Mart said
Do you really think that it has any chance of happening?
Like Dongo said they want to sell land. Everything happens straight away. When it comes to building or buying all we get is talk. Or maybe even a picture or two. They have had enough time to have started something by now. The Butts is perfect for them. Lots of problems to get around. It makes it look like they are doing something.
So they won't buy land. They wouldn't buy into the Ricoh when they could have. But I am supposed to believe that they are going to build a stadium on land that doesn't look big enough, has several problems, and to add to that they don't even own the land or have the lease
The only way forward I can see would be CRFC getting the lease and then selling it to SISU. That would get my full backing. But I am not going to give my full backing to what seems to be a fantasy.
We build a stadium and they play rent free or they just maintain the pitch?I am not sure I would be comfortable with it all being sold, I'd be happier with a 50/50 so Cov Rugby can benefit also. I wouldn't want CCFC storming in there taking it all over, as it is effectively what Wasps have done to us.
It does beg the question though, if it is all a smokescreen what is in it for Cov Rugby and Jon Sharpe?
We build a stadium and they play rent free or they just maintain the pitch?
Is the stadium costing them much to keep going? It is old now.
I am not sure I would be comfortable with it all being sold, I'd be happier with a 50/50 so Cov Rugby can benefit also. I wouldn't want CCFC storming in there taking it all over, as it is effectively what Wasps have done to us.
It does beg the question though, if it is all a smokescreen what is in it for Cov Rugby and Jon Sharpe?
She joined the board last summer didn't she.Has it ever been said it was being sold without pre-conditions?
The Ryton stuff started way before Deering was on the board also.
Their fans won't be having that Astute.We build a stadium and they play rent free or they just maintain the pitch?
Is the stadium costing them much to keep going? It is old now.
She joined the board last summer didn't she.
Simon's article implied that yes.
Indeed CRFC fans will be keen to understand Mr Sharp's ideas.
Their fans won't be having that Astute.
That's nice, your attitude is f**k the old codgers.
Well it only hit the press last month.I don't think it has been said anything about it being without conditions yet.
Yes I think she joined the same time as Venus, but the Ryton stuff was going on before then.
Well it only hit the press last month.
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