Yes and now there is no block and produced an outline plan.
I mean what else is she doing on our board?
I mean what else is she doing on our board?
Otis
Well-Known Member
Errm, not sticking up for her, but wasn't she the leader of the council and would be expected to be there to cut the tape?That's not my attitude at all, is it.
A retirement village with a sports stadium on one side and busy railway line on the other, it was never going to be tranquil for people's salad days was it? Then look at the cost, "...prices for 40% shared ownership one bedroom properties start from £69,980..."
To me it seems the ones 'f**king' our senior citizens are the ones responsible for developing a completely inappropriate site - now let's see who was involved:
Oh... what a surprise!
Also, could I just ask, was she leader when the scheme was first mooted? I would guess not as these things are years in the making aren't they.
duffer
Well-Known Member
That one is easy enough Otis, the covenant was suggested by the Council when they got wind of the possibility that CCFC might want to move in there. The stated reason was to "protect the Council's position".
Regardless of all of the other issues, what does anyone think that "position" is?
The only thing that I can think of is that they're trying to force the club to stay at the Ricoh. If so, what business is it of the council to reinforce the landlord's position against the club?
Esoterica
Well-Known Member
Uncanny!That's not my attitude at all, is it.
A retirement village with a sports stadium on one side and busy railway line on the other, it was never going to be tranquil for people's salad days was it? Then look at the cost, "...prices for 40% shared ownership one bedroom properties start from £69,980..."
To me it seems the ones 'f**king' our senior citizens are the ones responsible for developing a completely inappropriate site - now let's see who was involved:
Oh... what a surprise!
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
So why after a year since the story broke is the club not meeting with them and selling them the idea as they have with Ryton residents within weeks of that story breaking?
Bennets Afro
Well-Known Member
Maybe because sharp hasn't bought the lease yet
hill83
Well-Known Member
I get where you are going with this, but see the post above mine.
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
No one has brought the Ryton freehold for development either yet. Hasn't stopped the club moving that project forward though has it?
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
Nick
Administrator
You do realise that things happen before stories break, right?
They HAD to meet with residents in Ryton didn't they and the parish stuff.
I'd hazard a guess that CCFC and CRFC would meet with them and local residents
hill83
Well-Known Member
See the post below yours
*Looks at post three above this one*
Fair enough.
And it's 'bought' not 'brought'
Astute
Well-Known Member
In which way is that?
Wasps were moved nearly 100 miles. They don't belong in Coventry.
We will have moved 70 miles. 35 miles to Northampton and 35 miles back.
And there must be something in it for CRFC. They would be doing it through choice. Saying that it must have looked as though we left the Ricoh through choice.
Nick
Administrator
That's because it's already owned isn't it?
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
They met with residents after the story broke IIRC. I'm sure you can see the difference in urgency on this.
Nick
Administrator
I mean if CCFC strolled in at the Butts and took it all over etc. It wouldn't sit right.
There must be something in it for CRFC, whether it is just that they are going along with the game or there are other "political" reasons they would be doing it.
stupot07
Well-Known Member
Yes, and by getting planning permission on ryton it increases the value of thr land. Completely different to the Butts. Apples and Oranges.
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Astute
Well-Known Member
Wasps moved to Coventry without an invite to talks from CCFC. If it ever does happen CCFC will have made full agreement with CRFC. So I still don't get your point.
Nick
Administrator
I know what you mean, but with agreement with 1 person.
Even if Wasps had agreed it with Seppalla or Fisher, it doesn't mean we would like it as fans etc.
No idea of whether she was leader when the scheme was first proposed. If it's like other things in this city we'll probably never really know who first proposed the idea and when, but if it becomes controversial the CT will present a load of contrived and made up 'facts' to cover the council's b**ckside.
Interestingly, Lucas isn't one of the people 'cutting' the ribbon with the amusingly over-sized scissors. One of the 'scissor sisters' is Cllr Noonan (who I think was Mayor at the time), I don't know who the other one is.
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
Makes no difference where planning is concerned. I very much doubt that it will be CCFC, SISU or ARVO stepping in as the housing developer. They'll sell it on knowing what can and can't be done. Should they be getting involved with the redevelopment of the BPA with financial commitments etc. before they know what can and can't be done? How are they going to find that out? That's right, consultation. With both the local authorities and residents. Such as they have at Ryton. It isn't all that long ago we had we've identified two sites, we're doing impact statements for the highways and environment agencies blah blah blah. Yes that was proven by to be less than truthful by FOI requests but the element of truth that was in there was the process that you have to go through to ascertain if something is viable before you start going ahead with land purchase etc. This is consultation that would have to have happened before a site was purchased for a new stadium, this is why consultation is being done before Ryton can be sold for development and if anyone was serious about the BPA at CCFC consultation would be happening or already have happened. We have now seen how quickly they can move when they want something to happen. I'm sure you can see the very stark difference to what is happening (or not happening) with the BPA.
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Astute
Well-Known Member
I'm not going against anything until I see details. If it ever did get off the ground it could be good for the city of Coventry.
Joint season tickets getting more people to watch a proper Coventry rugger side in a bigger and better stadium. More money maybe making promotion more realistic for them. People going to see them instead of Wasps. Wasps fuck off back to London as nobody wants to watch them. We get the Ricoh back and CRFC get a better stadium.
We can but dream.
Nick
Administrator
Surely they need to half find out what's going on with the lease though? ie if Millerchip tries to put a restriction in.
Astute
Well-Known Member
So no idea
but you blame the CET and CCC for what you say will happen? :bag:
Esoterica
Well-Known Member
I'm not going to lie, that thought gave me a semi on.
Nick
Administrator
Oh no I agree, it is hard to say without the details. IF (this is a hypothetical conversation) CCFC were to go in and take over and try and dwarf CRFC and whack CCFC signs up and not CRFC etc then I don't think that would be on. A 50/50 thing that would help both sides grow would be the best.
That's not what I wrote, is it?
Sky Blue Kid
Well-Known Member
Perhaps it's me, but why do I get the feeling if SISU go to the BPA, in the not too distant future, CRFC will get shafted!
Nick
Administrator
That's what I'm saying.
I wouldn't want us to move in and then CRFC fans feel like we do with Wasps. Walking in to see massive CCFC badges and pictures of Sam Ricketts all over the place.
Sky Blue Kid
Well-Known Member
Yes you did mate!
Nick
Administrator
He's a trustee of the company who built it.
Sky Blue Kid
Well-Known Member
I will never trust SISU or anyone in connection with them. So if Sharp has any sense at all, he'll tell them "No Deal"
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
Surely that's one of the big reasons consultation should be happening? Give CM a reason to sell, sell him the idea and get things moving. No different to why it's all happened at Ryton. Makes it easier to sell. Same with CCC, sell them the idea. Same with local residents, get them on board and it makes the sell to CCC easier. This is a process that should be well underway. They should be talking to CCC, The Highways agency, The environment agency, local residents etc. if they're serious. If.
rupert_bear
Well-Known Member
Another thread on BPA. I will say although I live not too far from the Ricoh locationwise I'd love a home ground at the Butts which perhaps should have been seriously looked at years ago.Do people still think a major football stadium will get planning permission? and then get passed Westminster. Will take years
Nick
Administrator
That's what I'm getting at by saying call their bluff on it.
Get the trust and local media pushing for it, say how great it would be to play at the Butts and see where it goes
Millerchip is already selling to Sharp, it just depends if he decides to try and put restrictions in to stop CCFC moving there. Which would be strange if he did.