Otis
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And we could be non league by then.
The only
Or worse, fuck there business model up,.
Turnover of £1.3M off roughly 1000 fans and commercial activity
They should give Fisher and Seppala lessons.
Probably dearer to buy them out than us.
Nick
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Nick
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We were meant to be playing Nuneaton away at the Ricoh in the Conference or League 2 about now if we listen to all of the happiness on here
Otis
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That's not my attitude at all, is it.
A retirement village with a sports stadium on one side and busy railway line on the other, it was never going to be tranquil for people's salad days was it? Then look at the cost, "...prices for 40% shared ownership one bedroom properties start from £69,980..."
To me it seems the ones 'f**king' our senior citizens are the ones responsible for developing a completely inappropriate site - now let's see who was involved:
Oh... what a surprise!
I just noticed that Albert Einstein is in that picture.
Is that because he was the brains behind the project?
Dunno he's wealthy but I wouldn't say stackedNow there's a thought
How much cash has Sharp got?
Think he's got 3 or 4 establishments in Earlsdon now.
shmmeee
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Watch it Nick, you'll get kicked out the club with rational thought like that.
Nick
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It's OK, I am still head of the "Ann Lucas Photobomb Collector's Club". That's what really counts!
She can go "street"
She can dig
She can cut cakes:
She can go "party"
She knows about cars
She knows how to hold a mic.
Disclaimer, this is no way intended as offensive to anybody. More a little light hearted.
If anybody does have a problem, come at me.
Nick
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Her pictured with kids, and the fact Ellesse is involved.
skybluetony176
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That's what I'm getting at by saying call their bluff on it.
Get the trust and local media pushing for it, say how great it would be to play at the Butts and see where it goes
Millerchip is already selling to Sharp, it just depends if he decides to try and put restrictions in to stop CCFC moving there. Which would be strange if he did.
Get behind what? A LR article and some factless comment's from TF to the SCG? What have we been given to get behind exactly? It's little more than a passing comment at this moment in time.
hill83
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Nick
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It also isn't just Fisher who has mentioned it.
which leads on to, yes fisher could be blagging to get a deal at the Ricoh.
So what is Sharp doing?
skybluetony176
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I really don't think you could blame any CRFC fan for not wanting their club to get involved with SISU. Stopping CM selling to JS or selling with strict conditions regarding involvement with SISU could be a way to resolve that. I certainly wouldn't wish SISU on anyone and I'd be surprised if you would either.
Nick
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skybluetony176
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Mentioned? You think that's enough to get a campaign behind?
skybluetony176
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Apart from the fact he is a Wasps fan
I'm talking about CRFC fans. What's Wasps got to do with them not wanting CRFC to get involved with SISU?
Nick
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I'd say if both Sharp and Fisher are saying the same thing then there is nothing wrong to call them out.
I didn't say get a campaign to get it done, I said get the Trust and local media to say how great an idea it is
IIRC the Trust have commented on it in the past.
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Nick
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Because that's who said it in my example.
duffer
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In fairness I think that everyone is aware of SISU's history, and Jon Sharp's no mug - CRFC are heading in the right direction. I don't think that there's any risk of them losing control of the rugby club through this.
Assuming there's any reality to the project, then the key for all parties is some kind of security of tenure if one side goes bust or decides to sell up and move on. I can't see why that can't be nailed down contractually.
As for planning permission, that's a big hurdle but I think the truth is that eventually developers almost always seem to be able to get their way. There is already a stadium there for up to 4,000, so the issue would be scale. I'm not commenting on the rights and wrongs of it, but look at Heathrow if you want to see how things can change!
Whether it's a good idea is a different argument. Personally if it were to happen I'd be happy with 15,000 at the Butts (or somewhere else that we owned or had a proper share of), and the place sold out every other week. I don't see that it's the size of the stadium limits our ambition, it's the revenue we derive from our place in the leagues and the willingness of the owners to invest that does that. Others differ, I know.
Assuming there's any reality to the project, then the key for all parties is some kind of security of tenure if one side goes bust or decides to sell up and move on. I can't see why that can't be nailed down contractually.
As for planning permission, that's a big hurdle but I think the truth is that eventually developers almost always seem to be able to get their way. There is already a stadium there for up to 4,000, so the issue would be scale. I'm not commenting on the rights and wrongs of it, but look at Heathrow if you want to see how things can change!
Whether it's a good idea is a different argument. Personally if it were to happen I'd be happy with 15,000 at the Butts (or somewhere else that we owned or had a proper share of), and the place sold out every other week. I don't see that it's the size of the stadium limits our ambition, it's the revenue we derive from our place in the leagues and the willingness of the owners to invest that does that. Others differ, I know.
Sky Blue Kid
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I'm certain that 15k is nowhere near big enough to satiate CCFC fans. Sell out crowds every other week in a 15k capacity will kill off the other 10-15k potential crowds. Given a stable and good footing with crowd attendance, 25k should be minimum capacity.
Astute
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Hardly anyone can see it happening. But SISU have to do something. And this way they wouldn't have to pay for land to build upon. The cheapest way of 'Building our own stadium'.....although it wouldn't be our own.
Otis
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Looking at the CT it says the Butts is an 8 acre site.
How many acres did Fisher say it was that they needed? And didn't he want the academy there at the new ground too? And how many acres did he say was needed for that?
hill83
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Otis
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Just looked back to September 2015 and the minutes of the meeting between Fisher and Rugby borough council.
Fisher states there that the club need 60 acres, though it could be split over 2 30 acre sites.
So we need 60 acres, but the Butts is 8 acres.
Definitely going to work.
Unless of course Fisher was 'lying' again.
Captain Dart
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That is so yesterday's story. Tomorrow there will be another one.
Astute
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Here we go again.
I was one that didn't want SISU to get 100% of the Ricoh. My reasoning was they would pile debt on it and we would lose it. They didn't get it. Wasps did. And what did they do before the ink was even dry?
Sky Blue Kid
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I'm not disputing that Otis. I'm just saying any 15k capacity stadium, isn't big enough to accomodate the crowds that CCFC could potentially generate
clint van damme
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pitching for a 15K stadium would show a sever lack of ambition.I'm not disputing that Otis. I'm just saying any 15k capacity stadium, isn't big enough to accomodate the crowds that CCFC could potentially generate
Nick
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I am not saying you didn't say that though. You also seem annoyed that Wasps did the same you didn't want SISU to do....
fernandopartridge
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What is ambition? Building a stadium that is too big for you in the vague hope that somehow the fickle people of Coventry will fill it every week? That went well with the Ricoh when we moved there, similar seems to be happening with Wasps.
I would probably just agree that 15k is on the small side and perhaps 20k would be about right.
Astute
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Our ambitions were severed about 9 years ago......