Sorry, I didn't see where I typed that.
That 11k stadium is absolutely killing AFC Bournemouth at the moment, isn't it.......
Doesn't change our tenant status though, might not improve our earning potential (especially if it limits gates to below 16K) so in actual fact might actually make us a less attractive proposition for potential new owners. But as long as we can get one over on Wasps hey.
Sorry, I didn't see where I typed that.
That 11k stadium is absolutely killing AFC Bournemouth at the moment, isn't it.......
Sorry, I didn't see where I typed that.
That 11k stadium is absolutely killing AFC Bournemouth at the moment, isn't it.......
Should be based on what other clubs that rent their ground pay. It needs to include F&B and other hospitality at good rates.I said a sustainable future which clearly wouldn't be at £2m.
Happy with league one then ?
You have to consider where Bournemouth are, they have a approx £100,000,000 guaranteed income before they sell a ticket. Once in the premier league the big ticket item is the TV money. I'm sure they can get by.
That maybe so and I'm no defender of SISU, but at the end of the day SISU will retire hurt but the damage to the football club may be fatal. I will only rejoice at the demise of SISU if the football club survives the process.It saddens me that there are grown adults, intelligent-sounded people like yourself who are not morally outraged by SISU's forcible breaking of the lease through Phoenixing tactics, and who wouldn't celebrate when they were foiled in their objectives by the council whipping the rug from under them by selling to Wasps. It was so richly deserved, it was delicious.
I'm sure Bournemouth and their sugar daddy would love a stadium like the Ricoh. Let's not try and kid ourselves that they've achieved what they've achieved thanks to an 11K stadium capacity. You're not that stupid I'm sure and I doubt anyone else is.
that's what you got from that post? That he was saying Bournemouth are where they are because of an 11k capacity stadium dear, oh dear.
Without seeming to jump to Tony's defence, he's not saying that at all. SBWM is saying that having an 11k stadium isn't hurting the football club. If they weren't owned by Billionaires and multi-millionaires it would certainly play a big part in it though
The real point is though a billionaire owner would look at a club who own an 11,000 stadium before looking at a club that rents 23 days a year and gets no commercial benefits whatsoever.
Yeah but any prospective owner can look at the years before 2005 and see crowds of 13k at Highfield Road.And real owners(Prospective or otherwise) would have looked at CCFC in 2007 and saw 22k+ crowds in a rented stadium but had the chance at that time to buy into it knowing that some investment on the field could push that team back into the Premier league. Wouldn't the prospective owners jump at that chance?... Oh wait a minute.......
And real owners(Prospective or otherwise) would have looked at CCFC in 2007 and saw 22k+ crowds in a rented stadium but had the chance at that time to buy into it knowing that some investment on the field could push that team back into the Premier league. Wouldn't the prospective owners jump at that chance?... Oh wait a minute.......
I'm sure Bournemouth and their sugar daddy would love a stadium like the Ricoh. Let's not try and kid ourselves that they've achieved what they've achieved thanks to an 11K stadium capacity. You're not that stupid I'm sure and I doubt anyone else is.
But Bournemouth are owned by American Billionaires, and a Russian multi Millionaire, or course it doesn't bother them mate.
Yeah but any prospective owner can look at the years before 2005 and see crowds of 13k at Highfield Road.
Let's be honest, the high crowds was a new stadium bounce. Our last few averages in Highfield Road were woeful
You have to consider where Bournemouth are, they have a approx £100,000,000 guaranteed income before they sell a ticket. Once in the premier league the big ticket item is the TV money. I'm sure they can get by.
So we're never going to be owned by anyone else other than SISU? There's not a chance we could be owned by a multi-millionaire?
As for them, the main shareholder is the Russian. The Americans are a private equity firm...they got lucky. Speaking of luck, I had the pleasure to listen to Jeff Mostyn speak the other week about how AFC Bournemouth has in effect gone from Zero to Hero.
He bought the club for tuppence and put all his money into the club but then couldn't put any more in and put them into admin. Someone he knew was doing some painting and decorating at a Russians house who had just moved to the Bournemouth area and asked Mostyn if he could bring him to the club. He said yes, the Russian liked it and came back a few more times and the rest is history.
I don't think any organisation would have paid anything for the higgs share in isolation.
Also at the time Gidney felt the club were a huge inconvenience and a himderence to his madcap scheme of rivalling the NEC
And doesn't that "Russian and American billionaires" actually put money into the football club? because no way could "Gate money/ST's money cover paying for £8-£10m players on a gate of 11k could it?
I didn't say it did. My point being that starting again in a smaller stadium wouldn't kill us.
Many are missing my point on this. I (my opinion) would rather that we weren't paying rent to a franchised rugby club, which will help them pay their bonds used to purchase a stadium that was built for us. I'd rather us be elsewhere within the City (such as BPA) and be free from the shackles and history of the past 10 years of shit.
A smaller stadium in Cov wouldn't kill us and would likely make us look more attractive to a potential buyer (if we had part ownership of said stadium).
The real point is though a billionaire owner would look at a club who own an 11,000 stadium before looking at a club that rents 23 days a year and gets no commercial benefits whatsoever.
And doesn't that "Russian and American billionaires" actually put money into the football club? because no way could "Gate money/ST's money cover paying for £8-£10m players on a gate of 11k could it?
The same as everyone else in that league though, so in that respect I think Weeman was pointing out that with lesser income streams than other clubs in the Premier league Bournemouth are still competitive.
I didn't say it did. My point being that starting again in a smaller stadium wouldn't kill us.
Many are missing my point on this. I (my opinion) would rather that we weren't paying rent to a franchised rugby club, which will help them pay their bonds used to purchase a stadium that was built for us. I'd rather us be elsewhere within the City (such as BPA) and be free from the shackles and history of the past 10 years of shit.
A smaller stadium in Cov wouldn't kill us and would likely make us look more attractive to a potential buyer (if we had part ownership of said stadium).
So you agree that I didn't say 'I'm happy with League One'?
I agree, financial input off course would help. My point still stands, I'd rather us not rent a stadium of a franchised rugby club (when everyone was rightly up in arms about Northampton), when that rent will go to subsidise their bond repayments and they could screw us over at any point.
The real point is though a billionaire owner would look at a club who own an 11,000 stadium before looking at a club that rents 23 days a year and gets no commercial benefits whatsoever.
Disagree. A billionaire owner will look at the club he likes, if it is his hobby. If he is seeking a return on his investment he will look for the club that gets the best returns.
I'm sure they would but when are "the club" ever going to own any stadium? They will be tenants of whoever builds the hypothetical stadium. The owners of the stadium will have access to F&B (and any other earnings) if that is what the lease or terms of rent say. Why do people keep making this huge mistake.The real point is though a billionaire owner would look at a club who own an 11,000 stadium before looking at a club that rents 23 days a year and gets no commercial benefits whatsoever.
Look at it like this mate... We were at one point getting upwards of 17-18k crowds in the first 3-4 months of the season when we were doing well under Mowbray weren't we? What happens if we get a good run going at BPA with only a max 15k capacity... Remembering Sharp has said he won't have BPA any bigger than 15k. What about the 3-4k that can't get in? another scenario is the "Piss Pot trophy, 30k at the Ricoh wasn't it? what happens to those extra 13-14k fans that can't get in? I'll tell you what happens to them mate. They don't come back purely because they know they won't get in, so they won't bother. Possibly yet another generation of "Young Sky Blues" fans lost forever.... Just saying mate
They're exceptions to the rule. The Ricoh is too big for us...would the glory hunters come every week? Doubt it.
I do get your point. I'm not saying a 15k ground is ideal as a long term solution...having something modular in the short-medium term than can be increased long term, is in my eyes, better than putting money into Wasps coffers. That's all.
You guys are aware that we DO have an American billionaire owner now??? Her name is Joy.
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