Match Thread Leeds United - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 28th Sep (5 Viewers)

[Evo1883]

Come on Evo. Admit it. We have been poor at best for a major proportion of this season. Our points tally doesn't lie . There is obviously a major problem (regrettably including MR ) which could be one of a number of things . Something needs to change but no idea what it is

Not the manager

 

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[DrPoolittle]

But you can’t mislead supporters and then not expect them to be angry

If you’re saying that promotion wasn’t a realistic target this season, but the club said it was, then it deserves all the criticism it’s going to get

Fans are notoriously stupid. They demand ambition, they believe every word managers, players and clubs say.

They want to hear ambition and won’t tolerate anything else.

I said at the start of the season that we are a top ten side. At the moment, 7 games in, I am content.

 

[napolimp]

But you can’t mislead your customers and then not expect them to complain

I think you're mixing a football club up with buying a dodgy vacuum cleaner from Argos.

 

[Evo1883]

Yeah but it has been more than 7 games? Its not a new issue.

It's 7 games into the season , tell me which season displeased you the most nick

 

[bigfatronssba]

There’s no chance King will give Robins until Christmas if this form carries on. The next few games will be key.

Think it’s 4 points minimum over the next 2 games

 

[DrPoolittle]

No but they were pretty itchy

And stupidly long.

 

[theferret]

We're not in a relegation battle, it's September. You can't get relegated until at least the new year.

Never said were, in fact I explicitly said we're not atm. I was merely asking the question at what point does the fear or prospect of that prompt King to act.

 

[DrPoolittle]

Based on what, though ? I'm not a bedwetter nor a Robins out but I can't see anything positive at the moment. The argument that we always start slowly has also worn off

Absolutely agree. This isn’t a slow start now. There are larger problems

But I am content Robins will sort it out

 

[Viktor17]

Fear the end is nigh, sadly.

something seriously wrong.

 

[PVA]

But you can’t mislead supporters and then not expect them to be angry

If you’re saying that promotion wasn’t a realistic target this season, but the club said it was, then it deserves all the criticism it’s going to get

How is it misleading supporters?

If the club aims for promotion, but doesn't achieve it, that is not misleading supporters.

That's clearly not how football works is it.

If they came out and said 'buy your season tickets because we're DEFINITELY getting promoted' then that would be misleading supporters.

 

[napolimp]

Never said were, in fact I explicitly said we're not atm. I was merely asking the question at what point does the fear or prospect of that prompt King to act.

Doesn't matter, cross that bridge if/when they get there.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Fans are notoriously stupid. They demand ambition, they believe every word managers, players and clubs say.

They want to hear ambition and won’t tolerate anything else.

I said at the start of the season that we are a top ten side. At the moment, 7 games in, I am content.

Please explain, given the amount of money we’ve spent, and our performance over the past few seasons why we shouldn’t be pushing for promotion?

 

[Ibby]

I hate being negative about this team and still believe in Robins but this is just awful. No plan, no structure, no desire. Something needs to change because these players are too good to be in the position that they are. If this continues we’re going to be in a relegation battle.

 

[Macca]

Never said were, in fact I explicitly said we're not atm. I was merely asking the question at what point does the fear or prospect of that prompt King to act.

He knows he can't sack MR. 90% of the fans will go nuts

 

[clint van damme]

But you can’t mislead supporters and then not expect them to be angry

If you’re saying that promotion wasn’t a realistic target this season, but the club said it was, then it deserves all the criticism it’s going to get

These mislead supporters you're on about, how long have they followed the game?
Because it can't have been for more than 5 minutes if that's how they think it works.

 

[DrPoolittle]

Please explain, given the amount of money we’ve spent, and our performance over the past few seasons why we shouldn’t be pushing for promotion?

Because we are only one of several clubs, at least a dozen, all competing. We have spent money to keep up with them, not overtake them

 

[bigfatronssba]

How is it misleading supporters?

If the club aims for promotion, but doesn't achieve it, that is not misleading supporters.

That's clearly not how football works is it.

If they came out and said 'buy your season tickets because we're DEFINITELY getting promoted' then that would be misleading supporters.

“3 out of the next 5 seasons i expect a play off finish”

Not my words, the words of our owner

 

[procdoc]

Please explain, given the amount of money we’ve spent, and our performance over the past few seasons why we shouldn’t be pushing for promotion?

spending money does not guarantee anything

 

[Skyblue54]

Going to be alot worse if rudoni is injured long term...very worrying...

 

[napolimp]

These mislead supporters you're on about, how long have they followed the game?
Because it can't have been for more than 5 minutes if that's how they think it works.

He bought a season ticket at the end of the play off season.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

It's 7 games into the season , tell me which season displeased you the most nick

It doesn’t matter about the other seasons - a new season started in August.

doze he deserve a statue? Yes - but ultimately players are fighting, others appear not to give a shit. Tactically we’re all over the place and we don’t know our best 11.

That’s all in Robins’ remit. If they don’t get 4 points in the next 2 games, that’s nearly 25% of the season. We could find ourselves mired in a relegation battle we shouldn’t be in - next two games are huge

 

[bigfatronssba]

These mislead supporters you're on about, how long have they followed the game?
Because it can't have been for more than 5 minutes if that's how they think it works.

And the manager, players, owner, and coaching staff, how long have they followed the game?

Because it can’t have been more than 5 minutes if they think this is acceptable to most supporters

 

[David O'Day]

“3 out of the next 5 seasons i expect a play off finish”

Not my words, the words of our owner

He's' not going to say "i couldn't give a fuck where we finish"

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

He knows he can't sack MR. 90% of the fans will go nuts

I think you will find that the 90% is a shrinking number and will be quickly.

 

[David O'Day]

He bought a season ticket at the end of the play off season.

After managing to get a mates spare for the Play Off final which was his only game

 

[clint van damme]

And the manager, players, owner, and coaching staff, how long have they followed the game?

Because it can’t have been more than 5 minutes if they think this is acceptable to most supporters

That's a different point entirely from the one I was replying to.

 

[Evo1883]

It doesn’t matter about the other seasons - a new season started in August.

doze he deserve a statue? Yes - but ultimately players are fighting, others appear not to give a shit. Tactically we’re all over the place and we don’t know our best 11.

That’s all in Robins’ remit. If they don’t get 4 points in the next 2 games, that’s nearly 25% of the season. We could find ourselves mired in a relegation battle we shouldn’t be in - next two games are huge

Well his past does matter , most rational clubs don't sack a manager 7 games into a season after giving them 7 pretty good years

 

[Matt smith]

He knows he can't sack MR. 90% of the fans will go nuts

He would definitely make the change if he saw fit

 

[Evo1883]

Maybe doug will apoint himself ? Such is his way

 

[Evo1883]

He would definitely make the change if he saw fit

That's like saying the sun will come out if it does

 

[jordan210]

Maybe doug will apoint himself ? Such is his way

With Will King as assistant

 

[napolimp]

Well his past does matter , most rational clubs don't sack a manager 7 games into a season after giving them 7 pretty good years

Very tricky to get new manager hire right on the first attempt. Especially as a new owner with no experience.

 

[Matt smith]

It is a fair point that we could easily replace robins with a terrible appointment

 

[DrPoolittle]

And the manager, players, owner, and coaching staff, how long have they followed the game?

Because it can’t have been more than 5 minutes if they think this is acceptable to most supporters

Incidentally, you are right. We have spent a lot of money but have probably spent it badly.

That would be a reasonable assessment.

Too much money spent, on the wrong players and on the wrong positions.

But fans love reckless spending. Even now, you can hear fans say that King should be throwing more money at the squad.

Imagine the fuss if the Club didn’t spend

 

[David O'Day]

Maybe doug will apoint himself ? Such is his way

Then pulls off his mask Scooby Doo style to reveal he has really been Orange Ken all along