Not all are bad. But thise who are bad give the rest a shit name.I don't think gypsies have ever had a code of honour mate.
It doesn't matter what they call themself. It is their actions that does the talking.Yeah . Should have said travellers not gypsies. Apologies.
Maybe in a case like this it is better for the accused to be named and his circumstances released. It would have taken a brave (or stupid) CPS person to decide on a charge on the poor bloke after seeing the public reaction.This is a case in point that there should be a ban on releasing the identity/photos of accused before a charge has been made. This guys name and photos are everywhere, yet he has been released without charge. Whilst some will give him a handshake there will be others will call him a murderer or try to seek revenge.
They have released him again?Now been released with no further action.
Farcical.
They have released him again?
Yes Otis :smuggrin:No further action against him!
Now been released with no further action.
Farcical.
It is farcical though, CVD.not really, he killed someone. The police had a duty to look into it and be sure it was all as it appeared to be.
The correct decision has been reached and I hope the authorities continue to support him and his wife as I'd imagine he is in a right state after whats happened.
Surely you can have a news paper article without having to print a name or photo? I doubt the news articles had any baring on the decision, you only have to watch 24 hours in police custody to see how difficult it is to get a charge. Looking at the guidance of reasonable force, its a case the CPS would've struggled to argue.Maybe in a case like this it is better for the accused to be named and his circumstances released. It would have taken a brave (or stupid) CPS person to decide on a charge on the poor bloke after seeing the public reaction.
But to question him by law he has to be told what the possible charge is. He killed someone so there was a chance of it being murder. It isn't as though they would have been calling him a murderer.It is farcical though, CVD.
Why couldn't he be just be brought in for questioning rather than on suspicion of murder?
How would you feel if someone broke into your house and after a struggle you stabbed the person in self defence and the next thing you know you are arrested on suspicion of murder?
You said yourself 'the police had a duty to look into it.' Well, that's exactly what they should have done, looked into it.
Just bring the bloke in for questioning. Why on suspicion of murder? It also suddenly went very quickly from GBH to murder.
I would say 'farcical' describes it all just fine.
I don't necessarily disagree.Surely you can have a news paper article without having to print a name or photo? I doubt the news articles had any baring on the decision, you only have to watch 24 hours in police custody to see how difficult it is to get a charge. Looking at the guidance of reasonable force, its a case the CPS would've struggled to argue.
But surely 'manslaughter' then. Why 'murder?'But to question him by law he has to be told what the possible charge is. He killed someone so there was a chance of it being murder. It isn't as though they would have been calling him a murderer.
And I would bet any money that they treated him very well. All charges got dropped very quickly for such a serious event. Can you imagine the uproar by the scums family if he hadn't been questioned?
And I wonder how many of the police interviewing him wanted to shake his hand and give him a big hug.
But surely 'manslaughter' then. Why 'murder?'
Could you just imagine the shock if that was you in that situation and you were arrested on the suspicion of murder? Why that poor bloke must have gone through for that whole day he was arrested.
Why would it?Because it would have been murder he’d have been charged with.
Before questioning him could they be sure it wasn't murder?But surely 'manslaughter' then. Why 'murder?'
Could you just imagine the shock if that was you in that situation and you were arrested on the suspicion of murder? Why that poor bloke must have gone through for that whole day he was arrested.
Why would it?
Surely acting in self defence is not murder. Wouldn't be premeditated.
Happy to get the clarification on it.
Yeah, I understand that. This was seemingly a struggle though.It occurred I assume outside the property - also it’s a misconception that you can just kill someone in your house - if you found a person in your house who was stealing but unarmed and you shot him through the head with a shotgun it’s likeky would be charged and prosecuted.
Yeah. Concern for retribution perhaps now he's been named and his picture is all over the papers.Out of this is I really hope the victim in this matter (the old chap) life isn’t made harder by the press or anyone else, I hope the whole situation doesn’t play a part in any health decline etc.
Hopefully the locals will keep an eye on him and look after the fella.
It has to be considered that the guy murdered him. Yes he MIGHT have set out shouting to scare said intruders away...they stood firm, & even began to intimidate or maybe even attack him - so he responded in self defence...but he still killed someone. It HAS to be investigated.But surely 'manslaughter' then. Why 'murder?'
Could you just imagine the shock if that was you in that situation and you were arrested on the suspicion of murder? Why that poor bloke must have gone through for that whole day he was arrested.
You can't just ignore the term "on suspicion of"...that was what he was arrested uponWhy would it?
Surely acting in self defence is not murder. Wouldn't be premeditated.
Happy to get the clarification on it.
I'm sure that if, in the media frenzy surrounding his case, he gives interviews & presents the interviewer with a religiously controversial theme - he will get official police protection for the rest of his daysOut of this is I really hope the victim in this matter (the old chap) life isn’t made harder by the press or anyone else, I hope the whole situation doesn’t play a part in any health decline etc.
Hopefully the locals will keep an eye on him and look after the fella.
I doubt he is ever going to be able to return to that house now, all boarded up to stop vandalism of it.
I think he's staying in a police safe house , and rightfully so.he should be afforded police protection, scandalous that he hasn't had it already.
Is there such a thing as a thieving gene, quite a shocking comment if you don't mind me saying.Scumbags trying to elicit sympathy by pointing out burglar had kids.
Frankly I think it is a pity he bred, better for everyone if he was childless & didn't pass on his thieving genes.
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