Transfer Rumour Matty James (3 Viewers)

bigfatronssba

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Unless he wants ridiculous wages then this would be a good signing imo.

I know DK seems to only want younger players, but we need some older head me as well. How many of our players are over 30?
 

napolimp

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Unless he wants ridiculous wages then this would be a good signing imo.

I know DK seems to only want younger players, but we need some older head me as well. How many of our players are over 30?

You'd think as a Championship level player, at 33 and no club, you'd be happy with 15-20k. Contract length may be more of an issue as some have suggested.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Always been a fan of Palmer, but never to the point where I thought he'd be a real miss if unavailable. Even in that 70 minutes against Wolves, where he was excellent, he probably should have scored at least 1 - which may have put the game to bed.
He’s scored some memorable goals, but these aren’t close to balancing out the problems that come from his constant showboating and unwillingness to commit to a press.
 

CCFCSteve

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Now all over X. Our entitled fanbase will have their pitchforks out if James doesn’t sign. Forget the 40m spent over the past 18 months, the attempts to bring in a big CM signing in over the summer, the rejected bids of our top players, the improvements behind the scenes /infrastructure and the fact that we’re even paying decent money on players for the future for the first time in years (Bassette).

Who would be a football club owner !

ps if we can sign James great, I liked him on loan and think he would add to the squad but the lack of appreciation of what’s been done at the club, the longer term plan and attempts to put club on a sustainable footing, is quite frankly frightening
 

skybluecam

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Now all over X. Our entitled fanbase will have their pitchforks out if James doesn’t sign. Forget the 40m spent over the past 18 months, the attempts to bring in a big CM signing in over the summer, the rejected bids of our top players, the improvements behind the scenes /infrastructure and the fact that we’re even paying decent money on players for the future for the first time in years (Bassette).

Who would be a football club owner !

ps if we can sign James great, I liked him on loan and think he would add to the squad but the lack of appreciation of what’s been done at the club, the longer term plan and attempts to put club on a sustainable footing, is quite frankly frightening
I do not believe for a second the words “doesn’t fit the model” came out of Doug’s mouth. This sounds like complete fiction for twitter interactions.
 

napolimp

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Now all over X. Our entitled fanbase will have their pitchforks out if James doesn’t sign. Forget the 40m spent over the past 18 months, the attempts to bring in a big CM signing in over the summer, the rejected bids of our top players, the improvements behind the scenes /infrastructure and the fact that we’re even paying decent money on players for the future for the first time in years (Bassette).

Who would be a football club owner !

ps if we can sign James great, I liked him on loan and think he would add to the squad but the lack of appreciation of what’s been done at the club, the longer term plan and attempts to put club on a sustainable footing, is quite frankly frightening

What difference does it make to the model? We wouldn't be paying anything surely, and any young players who fit the model would have to wait until at least January? Unless there's some sort of massive signing on fee.
 

Skyblueabo1111

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Put yourself in Kings shoes as the owner of a loss making operation.
Robins “can I have cash for Torp, Bassette, Mason-Clark, Thomas-Asante, Binks, Dovin and Rodrigues. Can you reject offers for Simms, Wright, Van Ewijk and Sheaf.
Doug “done”.
Robins “actually forget Torp can I have more money for James now”.
Just got rid of Palmer, for a few, must have money for this
 

pusbccfc

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The song makes me cringe.

If he can stay fit then get him in, even when Sheaf is back he will be good to have around.

It was the loudest song on Saturday.
 

CCFCSteve

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What difference does it make to the model? We wouldn't be paying anything surely, and any young players who fit the model would have to wait until at least January? Unless there's some sort of massive signing on fee.

I’s be happy with the signing and hope it happens. The point was that everything else appears to be forgotten by some fans unless we manage to get James in. Just all feels OTT
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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I think we would be pretty mad not to at this stage.

The team is crying out for some leadership, and some solidity in the middle. He would play really well next to Eccles and I think would put a rocket into our performances. Like I have said on here before, ability is great, but it needs to be accompanied with cohesion and application, otherwise you start seeing some of the performances we have seen recently. I think if he came in there's a good chance we would see next to an instant impact.
 

Grendel

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Put yourself in Kings shoes as the owner of a loss making operation.
Robins “can I have cash for Torp, Bassette, Mason-Clark, Thomas-Asante, Binks, Dovin and Rodrigues. Can you reject offers for Simms, Wright, Van Ewijk and Sheaf.
Doug “done”.
Robins “actually forget Torp can I have more money for James now”.

He knew it was a loss making operation and unless we get promoted it always will be. Sanctioning wages for a player should be a given - we’ve had palmer go out so those wages are now spare
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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It depends what you consider success….

we strengthened our Keeper, out wide on both flanks, the striking options and made Binks perm.

We didn’t sell any of our key players.

we managed to offload Godden and Palmer for fees.

That’s a good window, maybe even a very good window. If we had added a great number 6 or 8 that would have made it a brilliant window.

failing to land one target doesn’t make all other progress irrelevant …..
Agreed, I‘m sure many of us expected Sheaf to go. The only reason COH left was because it was on a free and outside of our control.

I really like Doug's model, it reminds me of Crewe back in the day (Ashton, Hulse, Murphy, etc went for millions even then), it's even more savvy these days buying 'assets' and selling them on with add on's and bigger money, then going it again. He obviously timed it well and saw how well it went with Hamer and Vik. However, this approach only works when the potential you invest in actually develops. How do they do that? it's not just talent and working hard. They need an environment, staff, facilities and a team that they can perform in. The top teams have those experienced characters who push the talent on, inspire them, protect and look after them. There was a whole thread on Torp on this forum. who does he have in and around him on the pitch who can look after him and help him develop? A Matty James type player would be massive.
Just my view on it, I'd take a couple of 30+ players and create the right team environment.

Agreed. The ‘intangibles’ can’t be neglected either. Even in the 2022/23 season, as great as Vik and Hamer were, Kelly and McFadz were just as important.

Every team in every sport needs at least one good leader. In our squad, who is a leader? Take Sheaf out and we look half the team. This isn’t a knee jerk either because I felt the same in our ‘big games’ without Sheaf last season - e.g. Norwich, WBA away and PNE at home.
 

JoeCCFCPUSB

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The fact we are in this situation to begin with is a joke.

Matty James is 33 and will likely command a higher wage than Liam Kelly was earning, the 2 players are not much apart in terms of quality, yet we shifted on Kelly because we'd outgrown that level of player.

It's a regression to say the least, I'm not trying to come across negative but we are literally 2 or 3 talented players away (a midfielder and a centre back) from really becoming a top 3 or 4 side in this division and yet we fucked around signing a shed load of forwards.

It's frustrating, we already had Sakamoto, Simms, Wright, Tavares. I genuinely thought when we brought in Asante and then Bassette, perhaps Simms or Wright might be sold, but clearly that wasn't the case.

We lost Hamer and O'hare and that is fine. This happens in Football, at every level in the game a club will have to sell because the player and his agent want a fat signing on fee etc.

We all have differing opinions but I think we can all agree we should have signed a fucking centre mid and a defender.
 

Balli001

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The fact we are in this situation to begin with is a joke.

Matty James is 33 and will likely command a higher wage than Liam Kelly was earning, the 2 players are not much apart in terms of quality, yet we shifted on Kelly because we'd outgrown that level of player.

It's a regression to say the least, I'm not trying to come across negative but we are literally 2 or 3 talented players away (a midfielder and a centre back) from really becoming a top 3 or 4 side in this division and yet we fucked around signing a shed load of forwards.

It's frustrating, we already had Sakamoto, Simms, Wright, Tavares. I genuinely thought when we brought in Asante and then Bassette, perhaps Simms or Wright might be sold, but clearly that wasn't the case.

We lost Hamer and O'hare and that is fine. This happens in Football, at every level in the game a club will have to sell because the player and his agent want a fat signing on fee etc.

We all have differing opinions but I think we can all agree we should have signed a fucking centre mid and a defender.
Maybe tell the recruitment team it surely escaped their notice.
 

Grendel

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The fact we are in this situation to begin with is a joke.

Matty James is 33 and will likely command a higher wage than Liam Kelly was earning, the 2 players are not much apart in terms of quality, yet we shifted on Kelly because we'd outgrown that level of player.

It's a regression to say the least, I'm not trying to come across negative but we are literally 2 or 3 talented players away (a midfielder and a centre back) from really becoming a top 3 or 4 side in this division and yet we fucked around signing a shed load of forwards.

It's frustrating, we already had Sakamoto, Simms, Wright, Tavares. I genuinely thought when we brought in Asante and then Bassette, perhaps Simms or Wright might be sold, but clearly that wasn't the case.

We lost Hamer and O'hare and that is fine. This happens in Football, at every level in the game a club will have to sell because the player and his agent want a fat signing on fee etc.

We all have differing opinions but I think we can all agree we should have signed a fucking centre mid and a defender.

James is vastly superior to Kelly
 

Saddlebrains

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Now all over X. Our entitled fanbase will have their pitchforks out if James doesn’t sign. Forget the 40m spent over the past 18 months, the attempts to bring in a big CM signing in over the summer, the rejected bids of our top players, the improvements behind the scenes /infrastructure and the fact that we’re even paying decent money on players for the future for the first time in years (Bassette).

Who would be a football club owner !

ps if we can sign James great, I liked him on loan and think he would add to the squad but the lack of appreciation of what’s been done at the club, the longer term plan and attempts to put club on a sustainable footing, is quite frankly frightening


The issue is it's obvious to everybody we fucked up the midfield

It's not how much has been spent that's the issue, it's where it's spent

All good cruising round showing off in a Ferrari, but pointless if its it's got a Ford KA engine
 

torchomatic

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Robins himself said he didn't think we'd miss him and we don't - he can't play the roles we need so it's not really "honestly shocking". The more pertinent issue is the reoccurence of Sheaf's injury.
Absolutely. I really can't believe anyone is upset that Kasey has left. Concerns about "numbers" maybe, but no one will miss KP in a City shirt.
 

Balli001

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The issue is it's obvious to everybody we fucked up the midfield

It's not how much has been spent that's the issue, it's where it's spent

All good cruising round showing off in a Ferrari, but pointless if its it's got a Ford KA engine
His rant made it sound like we didnt even bother going after defenders or midfielders when clearly we did
 

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