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Grendel
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says the guy who never went to the early rounds:facepalm:
Got me there!
coundonskyblue
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I can understand why some are frustrated by the shite position the club are in, but the fans aren't to blame for that.
Sky Blue Kid
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Nothing to do with lack of investment in the team, which culminates us plying our trade in L1- No...course not!:facepalm:
hill83
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It's a combination of poor crowds and lack of investment. They aren't mutually exclusive.
The more people turn up, the more money we have to invest.
It's not rocket science. Denying that not turning up to games doesn't affect the club is naive.
If we'd have had 30k week in week out for the last 10 years do you honestly think we'd be in the position we are in now? Extreme example maybe, but the answer is no.
We'd still be in the championship or maybe higher. Big crowds draw better investment.
The more people turn up, the more money we have to invest.
It's not rocket science. Denying that not turning up to games doesn't affect the club is naive.
If we'd have had 30k week in week out for the last 10 years do you honestly think we'd be in the position we are in now? Extreme example maybe, but the answer is no.
We'd still be in the championship or maybe higher. Big crowds draw better investment.
RichieGunns
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While I agree, I think its wrong for people to claim they are better fans than others just because they go more often than others.
No one is a better fan. People go when they can and anyone who wears the Sky Blue should be welcomed, not told to feth off because they aint a proper fan.
We'd never get more investment if all of those 10k hardcore 'real' fans kept telling the other 20k armchair 'plastic' fans they weren't welcome everytime they came would we?
So your argument about more seats on bums and investment, while valid, actually turns around other peoples argument about 'real fans'.
I think Snoz said he'd rather see 10k loyal fans than 30K fake fans. That doesn't encourage investment does it?
hill83
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Yeah I agree with you.
Wow I love this, I really do i think you need to look at yourself long and hard fella because not everyone can afford £20 odd week in week out to watch League 1 football, have you ever thought that some people have other commitments or other sports that they enjoy to watch? No thought not the be all and end all for you is football.
My favourite sport is Rugby Union so I prefer to go and watch that and freely admit I have watched Coventry when the price of the tickets have been lower oh and when I HAVE THE TIME TO SPARE!!!!
I am also a father to be so most of my money is going toward our new baby also I am getting married so more money is going there, so I really think you need to pulll your head out of your blinkered a&*e and look at the bigger picture.
I appreciate this is some people idea of enjoyment and thats fine they can freely spend there moeny on football, not everybody else has to.
Oh I forgot to mention I would rather spend time with my Fiancee than sit having to listen to a tirade of abuse being sent toward a pitch by some idiot who cannot articulate themselves without swearing!
Mucca Mad Boys
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Why didn't you just say, "I prefer watching Rugby Union", end of post.
RichieGunns, you said this about me. "I think Snoz said he'd rather see 10k loyal fans than 30K fake fans. That doesn't encourage investment does it? "
With the greatest respect Richie - you're talking out of your arse. Show me where I said that. Get your facts right.
You make it personal at every turn. And turn it into a debate about 'whether some fans are better than others.'
My hope is always that there are big crowds supporting City. Nothing else. Read the few posts I make on the topic. I'm asking fans to turn up. Not many do. It hampers our team and the progress it can make. I have a mantra - 'No supporters, no money, no players.'
We have too many fans who can't be 'arsed.' But who expect their team to make progress. But they're not prepared to play their part much. As supporters.
Hills has it right when he said, "The more people turn up, the more money we have to invest. It's not rocket science. Denying that not turning up to games doesn't affect the club is naive." I agree with that statement 100%.
A season ticket at Coventry City would cost anyone less than £1 a day to save up, more like 75p for some parts of the ground. Why, they'll even let you pay monthly.
There isn't the passion for the club from so many on here.
Valiant, change the record mate, it's worn out.
With the greatest respect Richie - you're talking out of your arse. Show me where I said that. Get your facts right.
You make it personal at every turn. And turn it into a debate about 'whether some fans are better than others.'
My hope is always that there are big crowds supporting City. Nothing else. Read the few posts I make on the topic. I'm asking fans to turn up. Not many do. It hampers our team and the progress it can make. I have a mantra - 'No supporters, no money, no players.'
We have too many fans who can't be 'arsed.' But who expect their team to make progress. But they're not prepared to play their part much. As supporters.
Hills has it right when he said, "The more people turn up, the more money we have to invest. It's not rocket science. Denying that not turning up to games doesn't affect the club is naive." I agree with that statement 100%.
A season ticket at Coventry City would cost anyone less than £1 a day to save up, more like 75p for some parts of the ground. Why, they'll even let you pay monthly.
There isn't the passion for the club from so many on here.
Valiant, change the record mate, it's worn out.
Skybluegarns
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Come down off your high horse lady Godiva! Most of your points have already been discussed so going over old ground now. Zzzzz
Grow up, what a pillock!
You're only saying this as rational people have blown your small narrow minded dig out of the window, come back when you have something better to add.
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And that is the narrow minded arrogant, idiocy you come to expect.......
coundonskyblue
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Clubs with the higher crowds in the division will finish nearer the top using this logic.
Most of our time in the championship are support was always around the 12th best (give or take a few places), yet how often did we finish that high or above?
Third best supported this year, what chance have we of getting that high?
Most of our time in the championship are support was always around the 12th best (give or take a few places), yet how often did we finish that high or above?
Third best supported this year, what chance have we of getting that high?
And around the same position in terms of Investment .Conclusion under acheiving due to first 8 games .
Skybluegarns
Member
Now now don't be bashful. The original point of loosing 20,000 fans from one game to the next is still valid and was said with a hint of jest/irony. If its riled you up then that's to your own misfortune and something you need to deal with in a calmer manner perhaps or on a rugby forum where your knowledge may be more suited.
Nah mate obviously it's riled you up as you wouldn't of put the post on in the first place and seriously you need to work on your put downs..... :claping hands:
Skybluegarns
Member
I think you are in the wrong place if you are here to 'put someone down' when we both have a common dominator. I left school and the playground many moons ago.
Listen you obviously left the playground at 13:00 and are returning at 14:00, you are the one 'Trying to put people down' (look at your first post!), i'm leaving now as i'm growing tired of such a rambunctious little boy.
Skybluegarns
Member
You still biting?! I think I'll put my fishing rod away for now and put you in my keep net because this is too easy.......
Ha, ha, ha No not still biting but its always good to see someone back track when they are forced into a corner, i'll let you have the last word as I have some paint to watch drying whilst you go fishing with your little maggot :jerkit:
RichieGunns
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First of all I apologise for miss quoting you. The comment i was refering to was this:
So I apologise once again.
Now you say I turn this into a "i'm a better fan than you" thread.
In fact, this whole sodding thread is about the fans not turning up after the Crewe match and was started with this comment!
Which is an aragont "I'm a better fan than you comment" if ever I've seen one. Add the previous quote I've put up (that i mistakenly said was yours) and you'll see there are so many fans on this site that claim the title of "real fan" because they go every bloody game, week in week out. Fine I'm glad you do because the lads need your support as much as they need support from us fans who can't make it all the time.
If I could be there every bloody week, I would. I'd love to pay for a season ticket but being an actor, I never know when my next job is coming up or for how long its going to be.
For instances, I've just been offered a job for four months. This job will see me going all over the country performing in schools, 5/6 days a week, two/three shows a day. If I can make it home for the weekend and there's a home match that saturday, I'll be at the Ricoh because I'll have the money to do it.
But when I'm unemployed, It's a different story. I living on benefits (which aren't a lot) and most of my money goes straight back out the minute it comes into my account.
I have enough to live on. After that, I have nothing. If i can afford to go to a game (or my mum gives me money to go) I will go but that can be quite rare as my mum has her own money issues to worry about and I hate borrowing money off my mother!
So not even saving money is possible and I pay enough bills that adding another monthly payment onto my load would tip me over I'm afraid.
I have more important things I have to consider, like paying money to buy membership on Acting Websites so I can market myself to casting directors and theatre companies, paying money towards new headshots, showreals and voicesreals so people can see what I can offer them.
All these things cost hundred and hundreds of pounds. More money than a season ticket I'm afraid and there far more important to my career!
But getting back to my point, This does not make me any less of a fan and that's what some people have been saying for the past few months (this is an ongoing argument). If you don't go to the games week in week out then you are therefore a plastic fan or an armchair fan or a glory hunter or at its worst, not a fan at all.
In my opinion (and the opinion of many on this site) If you wear the sky blue then you are welcome here regardless of how many games you do or don't attend. The more the merrier!
Skybluegarns
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Skybluegarns
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Cheers Richie, Skybluegarns is right though, with his first opening post. "Support your team through thick and thin, good and bad." I can't see any arrogance in that. He's simply encouraging supporters to turn up.
Most of the decent posters on here speak in general terms, nobody's picking you out. Don't take comments personally.
I still think we have a lot of crap supporters. & I wish they'd turn into better fans and help their club. But won't hold my breath.
Most of the decent posters on here speak in general terms, nobody's picking you out. Don't take comments personally.
I still think we have a lot of crap supporters. & I wish they'd turn into better fans and help their club. But won't hold my breath.
RichieGunns
New Member
Fair enough.
I do agree with have crap supporters (and some are part of the 10k hardcore fans too).
But I think there is a lot of over generalisation.
You have to think that not all of those 20k are shitty fans.
A fair amount are probably in similar situations to myself (and Mr B) and therefore don't like it when people lump in as part of the crap supporters.
I'm devoted my city and my club, I just can't justify paying out that amount of money week in week out like others (even though I really want to be there).
Anyway As far as I'm concerned I've said my bit.
I'm sorry to have referenced you to that post.
In the end, lets just get behind the club in any way we can rather than tearing chunks out of each other all the time lol
Skybluegarns
Member
Lol I think everyone has said their bit and had their opinions!
Thankfully though we all have a common theme and support the City in our own way rightly or wrongly in peoples eyes.
skybluesteve76
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Well I think your all shit fans!