torchomatic
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Shit. Now I am worried. Knowing how SISU operate it wouldn't surprise me if Mowbray became manager of Rotherham and Reading. Bastards.
Shit. Now I am worried. Knowing how SISU operate it wouldn't surprise me if Mowbray became manager of Rotherham and Reading. Bastards.More worrying is that Reading have sacked McDermott, they were reportedly after Moggy last time around weren't they?
Or he could go back to making delicious Pork Pies againShit. Now I am worried. Knowing how SISU operate it wouldn't surprise me if Mowbray became manager of Rotherham and Reading. Bastards.
Are you real, or just a WUM? I haven't changed the subject at all. You're trying to make out I think everything is SISU's fault..I don't!
How is it flawed? Up to now CCC have been exonerated in Court, not once but three times(Count them) I've said before that CCC have their part in this s**tfest but the wrong doings by SISU could have been avoided if they were open and transparent in the first place.... Dragging up old ground now...1) Made the £20m promised an actuality! 2) Not told lies about being one of only 3-4 Clubs in the football league to be debt free. 3)Bought the share of the Ricoh at the start of takeover instead of "Hedging their bets" (Did you like what I did there?)
Or do you think any of those 3 points I made are lies? If so prove it!
With quotes like that made by Ranjit Bhurpa. I will say there are thousands that think the same way. Don't you?Do you still maintain that 'thousands' believe every word SISU say? Yes or No?
Being self sufficient in league 1 definately doesn't mean that you can't progress.
With quotes like that made by Ranjit Bhurpa. I will say there are thousands that think the same way. Don't you?
If that isn't a "Unhinged post" nothing is. It doesn't matter how much devastation is caused as long as CCFC is ok.! I really wouldn't be bothered if our owners "Actually cared" about our Football Club... They don't. We are merely a pawn in their greed.
With quotes like that made by Ranjit Bhurpa. I will say there are thousands that think the same way. Don't you?
With quotes like that made by Ranjit Bhurpa. I will say there are thousands that think the same way. Don't you?
I don't think he implied he either loves Sisu or believes everything they say.
Cheeky fuck. I answered your question, but due to your "Limitations" failed to answer mine!.. QUOTE[Or do you think any of those 3 points I made are lies?]UNQUOTEIn the absence of a straight answer and bearing in mind your limitations I will leave the 'debate' at this point.
Why?... At least give a reason/s rather than "I want to see SISU screw CCC in court!".......... Have you not thought because SISU were CCC's outright winner to take over the Ricoh why CCC turned so dramatically against them? Could it possibly be that they are a bunch of lying f**kbutts? That from the onset only ever wanted to get the Ricoh for nowt? Nobody does a 180 degree turn for no reason!For the record, I was in full agreement with the comment " as far as court goes, I don't believe a word SISU say but I'd love them to screw CCC in court".
Whatever the recent off-field history of the Club and the parts played by all parties, that's what it is - history. It's happene. Given where we are are, right now, today with seemingly ongoing litigation, I believe that only a Sisu win in court would bring any possible benefits to CCFC the football club.
For the record, I was agreeing with Samo's point "as far as court goes, I don't believe a word SISU say but I'd love them to screw CCC in court".
Given all that has gone on and as we sit here right now, today, I believe only a SISU victory would bring any sort of benefit to CCFC the football club. Couldn't really give a flying monkey's about the politics involved, I'm solely concerned with the future of CCFC.
Why?... At least give a reason/s rather than "I want to see SISU screw CCC in court!".......... Have you not thought because SISU were CCC's outright winner to take over the Ricoh why CCC turned so dramatically against them? Could it possibly be that they are a bunch of lying f**kbutts? That from the onset only ever wanted to get the Ricoh for nowt? Nobody does a 180 degree turn for no reason!
Ah so you think they didn't do "Due Dilligence" or only ever wanted the Ricoh for nothing?Probably around the time they suddenly showed an interest in the Ricoh.
The same way Manhattan and Shapiro were "scared off".
Ah so you think they didn't do "Due Dilligence" or only ever wanted the Ricoh for nothing?
Let me put it another way then Nick.. If SISU saw what Manhattan and Shapiro had seen and were "Scared off" why weren't they?Nope, I think you have taken me pointing out the time things went sour and then randomly turned that to a completely different question.
Let me put it another way then Nick.. If SISU saw what Manhattan and Shapiro had seen and were "Scared off" why weren't they?
At least we don't need to worry about "pissing money away" not being promoted to the Premier league. There's no chance of any serous money coming TM wayFor every Bournemouth there's a load of other clubs that don't promoted to the PL despite pissing away money....
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Or maybe they want to manage at a higher level, probably earning more money!If they do go it proves one of two things. Either TM and MV know something we all don't about our future and are "Rats deserting a sinking ship" or SISU have lied about budgets and don't give a s**t.
You mean they have no morals or scruples, and contracts mean "Jack s**t"Or maybe they want to manage at a higher level, probably earning more money!
Well they have learnt from the bestYou mean they have no morals or scruples, and contracts mean "Jack s**t"
If they do go it proves one of two things. Either TM and MV know something we all don't about our future and are "Rats deserting a sinking ship" or SISU have lied about budgets and don't give a s**t.
So any player or manager who leaves before their contract ends has 'no morals or scruples'? If they were to leave SISU would have granted permission for them to talk with another club and allow them to leave subject to compensation. Would you not leave your job for a role you thought better with more money?You mean they have no morals or scruples, and contracts mean "Jack s**t"
Did you read anything anyone said relating to that post you quoted? If you look at Bournemouth alone then yes it's a fantastic idea to inject ~£50 million into a club over a few years. If you look at it as a whole its a pretty shitty "investment", which is why it's a stupid thing to moan about lack of "investment".At least we don't need to worry about "pissing money away" not being promoted to the Premier league. There's no chance of any serous money coming TM way
Being self sufficient in league 1 definately doesn't mean that you can't progress. But it still comes back to the people you entrust and the decisions you/they make. Since being in league 1 we've had a rent strike, admin that cost us 20 points in total and didn't seem to free the club from much debt if any at all, the whole sixfields debacle which severely cost the club financially meaning that the club took no benefit from either the Wilson sale or the Aresenal cup windfall, the benefit of this went to SISU/ARVO and investors as it reduced the obvious losses that were going to be incurred by the disastrious decision, commercially we are inept and have been for years so there has been no maximising incomes from sponsorship, corperate etc. Everything has been franchised out from programs to the shop which must be hitting turnover and the ticketing system has been collapsing if anymore than 10'000 want to go to a 32K stadium. The ticketing being the latest thing to be franchised out, how much is that going to cost us in turnover. Running a club is so much more than appointing a decent manager. Is it any wonder that SISU's investment has been pissed up the wall when you look at the people they've entrusted with it and the decisions that have been made?
Right, so every single club who have invested heavily and not made the promised land have made poor investment decisions? Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
3 people can get promoted, 3 people get relegated (championship). There are more clubs with owners investing money hoping they hit the big time, than there are premier league places. It's just maths tbf
So any player or manager who leaves before their contract ends has 'no morals or scruples'? If they were to leave SISU would have granted permission for them to talk with another club and allow them to leave subject to compensation. Would you not leave your job for a role you thought better with more money?
Nobody is saying that mate. But at least they've "Had a go" The chances of doing a Blackpool in the future(Getting to the premier league by spending f**k all) is slimmer than "Flattened roadkill" Which just about sums up our ownersRight, so every single club who have invested heavily and not made the promised land have made poor investment decisions? Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
3 people can get promoted, 3 people get relegated (championship). There are more clubs with owners investing money hoping they hit the big time, than there are premier league places. It's just maths tbf
That's bang on right Nick... "We had a go for years" in the early 60's and like you said "Look where it got us" The top flight for 34 years, which I invested in with ST's and travelling to away games every other week, buying Bobble hats, scarves, rattles, and the ocassional team shirt(None of this buying a new one because the sponsors changed the kit more often than their grits.) Don't let the personal attack of yours get in the way of facts though Nick eh?Somebody who refuses to go to games in moaning about investment shocker.
We "had a go" for years and look where we ended up from it.
Why?... At least give a reason/s rather than "I want to see SISU screw CCC in court!".......... Have you not thought because SISU were CCC's outright winner to take over the Ricoh why CCC turned so dramatically against them? Could it possibly be that they are a bunch of lying f**kbutts? That from the onset only ever wanted to get the Ricoh for nowt? Nobody does a 180 degree turn for no reason!
What would we actually talk about if we had decent owners?
Anyway can we get back on topic? Poor TM is waiting to find out today whether he has the job!
Is that a fact? or just your opinion?In most peoples eyes we'll never have decent owners unless they're spunking £50 mill a season into us.
IMO there needs to be huge changes in football. I just can't see how the current setup can be sustained. Until there is a setup that removes parachute payments and forces all clubs to be self sustaining football will remain in a mess with numerous clubs struggling to pay the bills.In most peoples eyes we'll never have decent owners unless they're spunking £50 mill a season into us.
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