Nick
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They didn't sign it though did they? Didn't they inherit it. (Should have looked into it at the time I guess)
It was the bunch before who signed it.
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They didn't sign it though did they? Didn't they inherit it. (Should have looked into it at the time I guess)
It was the bunch before who signed it.
LastGarrison
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Before we go round in circles we all know the rent was ridiculously high but surely this should have been negotiated before they signed the contract and not when they realised we weren't going to be the cash cow they presumed we would be.
My point is though you are taking their pledge at face value when it has been proven that this might not always be the wisest idea...
with each passing day you crawl further and further up fishers arse.
And you know this how?
Brighton Sky Blue
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SISU want the ground as with it they can get a lot more money for the club. The only problem is that rather than negotiate a price for it they want it as cheap as possible and expect it to just be handed over. Failing that, we have Plan B in action to bust ACL and get it that way.
The number crunching shows that even with cheaper rent at Northampton the reduced crowds and vastly reduced capacity see us earning much more at the Ricoh. We aren't getting any pie money from Northampton so why are we going to such desperate lengths to not play in Coventry?
The answer is surely that we are trying to bust ACL by cutting off income.
lordsummerisle
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Been many attempts over the years, both prior and after Sisu to renogotiate the rent, but were always told no.
Problem with a monopoly.
LastGarrison
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Surely then that was the ideal time to negotiate with the club so close to going under?
It's all by the by now but, personally, I find it hard to take their statements and assurances at face value.
RoboCCFC90
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This is something that McGinnity and co should have made very clear to SISU when they bought the club, but then SISU should have been thourough to begin with and weren't and that's their fault.
Maybe so, but I don't see any other alternatives maybe when we are more than 2 more games into the season I should judge the effect of NOPM, but so far it doesn't seem like it will work.
covmark
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Erm, does he not state its just an opinion?
RoboCCFC90
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It probably helps that when you are trying to renegotiate the party you are negotiating with (The Council) stop playing games, "They don't recognise the owners of the club" it's crap, they were happy to recognise SISU before they rejected the CVA, now Ann Lucas won't meet Joy Seppala or Nikki Sinclaire.. It's all to strange it doesn't fit
Brighton Sky Blue
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Yeah to be fair being offered cheaper rent than Walsall with access to the crucial pie money is incomparable to playing in Northampton, making the academy homeless and selling merchandise from a pathetic stall outside Tesco.
Im shocked that you've replied to a message without a swear word.
RoboCCFC90
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No Valiant was so overcome by SISU hatred he only read what mattered to him.
James Smith
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We don't have any actual evidence that this £4 levy actually exists, it's just a claim from the Queen of the Shadows and hasn't been proved or denied yet.
RoboCCFC90
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Oh that's okay lets wish they never stopped paying the extortionate rent deal and we keep plunging further into the abyss because as any other Football Club would want to do in this financial climate is benefit from every aspect of the Stadia, hence Richardson's grand idea of moving to the Arena in the first place..
SydneySkyBlue
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I'd be interested to know how you explain the following as being in the interests of CCFC...
1) the Judicial Review claim
2) refusal to pay rent at £150k per annum while 'Highfield 2' is being built.
RoboCCFC90
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Doesn't really sound like a claim the way it's been worded on Nikki's part..
hill83
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skybluesam66
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the £4 was stated somewhere- but only applied to ticket sales above a certain level
ie cheap rent was offered, but if gates did get above certain levels, additional sales would have a £4 levy
so if we were to get say 20k gates in the championship, as an example the additional 8k over the level(if it were set at 12k) would cost the club 32k
ie cheap rent was offered, but if gates did get above certain levels, additional sales would have a £4 levy
so if we were to get say 20k gates in the championship, as an example the additional 8k over the level(if it were set at 12k) would cost the club 32k
Brighton Sky Blue
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Why would Lucas publicly ask to meet Seppala if she had no intention of doing it? She wants the Ricoh for nothing to secure SISU's exit-the council won't just give their freehold away and so we have an impasse. Note-had ACL not been thwarted in their administration we would now be with owners who could have united club with stadium.
James Smith
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Er yeah except as I understand it that this wasn't the JR that got thrown out it was the application for a JR. So even if the appeal is successful SISU then still have to win the JR - not quite as clear cut as you make out but happy to be proved corrected.
Nick
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I read somewhere that Lucas said she couldn't because of all the ongoing legal issues, what I don't get is why she went to the press and suggested it in the first place if she couldn't? Cheeky PR stunt?
RoboCCFC90
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Which is surely the only way to proceed!
jesus-wept
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This £4 extra per ticket ? Extra to what ? The £13 or is it £19 paid at Sixfields, or whatever price sisu charge should we go back to the Ricoh ?was £22 last season on a walk up basis. Do away fans pay ? How long for, ever ? Such a loose statement from Ms Sinclaire without basic facts. Is it just to wet appertites ? Can't help thinking it is bait to retieve the thousands sisu have already lost this season. I get the feeling the penny has dropped in Sepalla's brain that Fisher's prophecy of fans returning ain't going to happen, 1500 home fans is about as good as it will get, costing her company £200k per game in lost revenue. Timmy is doing more for our NOPM campaign than we are, thanks Timmy lad.
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Brighton Sky Blue
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We were offered vastly improved terms and took the team to Northampton instead. We are at the bottom of the League 1 table with negative points because SISU want to bust ACL-let's all thank our esteemed leader for securing that one.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Do you have the quotes from Lucas?
RoboCCFC90
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Sorry I was discussing instead of not paying the rent at the time we refused to.
Brighton Sky Blue
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It is-so SISU should expect to pay a fair price for it rather than trying to bust the current leaseholder.
lordsummerisle
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Think it was part of the £400,000 a year offer but crowds over 16,000, think it went up to £5 over 20,000?
Was in the Trust Q@A with ACL and Sisu, and from the ACL side.
Ridiculous offer, which nobody in their right mind should accept(Which is why Fisher initially accepted it i suppose, then overruled by somebody sensible).
SkyBlue_Bear83
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You are correct but then why is everything ACl say and claim treated as law by some on here
James Smith
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No each side should have the right to reply/refute and until then we should treat each statement with the same suspicion. For me it's just that one side has made more than a few statements that are have contained 'inaccuracies' and the other side hasn't yet.
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jesus-wept
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I think Lucas's open letter in the Telegraph to meet Joy Sepalla "woman to woman" was after the first JR verdict. As it seems this offer has never been accepted by JS what else is Ann Lucan supposed to do. I don't think there has been an answer to Lucas one way or t'other nows the chance Ms Sepalla