Nikki sinclair (1 Viewer)

[lordsummerisle]

You are correct but then why is everything ACl say and claim treated as law by some on here

It did come from ACL.

 

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[Nick]

Didn't Joy say she went to a meeting and nobody was there from the council that were meant to be? Lucas / that Martin fella?

I might be wrong though, just going off memory.

 

[coop]

Can someone give a bit more detail on what was said by Nikki this morning?

she said ive got a bigger cock than anyone on this forum

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

Can't beat this board.

Nikki Sinclaire meets with Joy Seppalla, asks questions on behalf of the fans and it's written off as pointless.

The KCIC campaign demonstrates outside SISU HQ, doesn't meet JS and doesn't ask any pertinent questions. It's lauded as some sort of heroic act.

She's an evil right-wing bitch spinning pro-SISU bullshit, what do you fucking expect? At least your post had a purpose: this board is shite now, in essence due to everyone who liked it!

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

I don't know. How many?

They've asked on numerous occasions they've asked her twice on television to my knowledge. Another thing all this she is a private person bollox she is a businesswoman what does she do hide in a cellar all day giving instructions out in morse:facepalm:

 

[covcity4life]

True.

But if it came from ACL - "OMG ROFL IT'S TRUUUUUUUU"

yup, expected to see the pathetic pro acl posts everywhere

as a neutral CCFC fan,its what i already knew,council are dicks,sisu not much better

but it should be pointed out that since relegation SISU have backed the managers and invested int he club, it does seem they have learnt from past mistakes and if council can stop hindering us maybe we can move forwards and upwards.

balls in councils court,the administrator,football league, neutrals(bar that judge admittedly) all siding with sisu, maybe people should stop screaming conspiracy and realise the council are in the wrong.

 

[fernandopartridge]

BY doing what she is doing, how in your opinion is she moving the process forward to a suitable conclusion when both party's are so deeply entrenched? Are not KCIC and NOPM the only vehicle fans have to try and effect change?

She's bringing information into the public light. I await a rebuttal from the council on the £4 levy claim.

 

[fernandopartridge]

She's an evil right-wing bitch spinning pro-SISU bullshit, what do you fucking expect? At least your post had a purpose: this board is shite now, in essence due to everyone who liked it!

Boo hoo you big girl.

 

[Nick]

She's an evil right-wing bitch spinning pro-SISU bullshit, what do you fucking expect? At least your post had a purpose: this board is shite now, in essence due to everyone who liked it!

IF she is just reporting questions she asked and the answers then surely it is fair enough? Whether people choose to believe them is up to them or not but surely it is the same as if the Trust met her and asked them?

I do wonder how she got to meet her when nobody else has managed to....

 

[hill83]

She's an evil right-wing bitch spinning pro-SISU bullshit, what do you fucking expect? At least your post had a purpose: this board is shite now, in essence due to everyone who liked it!

Check you out Mr moody pants

 

[James Smith]

Think it was part of the £400,000 a year offer but crowds over 16,000, think it went up to £5 over 20,000?

Was in the Trust Q@A with ACL and Sisu, and from the ACL side.

Ridiculous offer, which nobody in their right mind should accept(Which is why Fisher initially accepted it i suppose, then overruled by somebody sensible).

Okay thanks for the heads up, I have now found that and it doesn't say they want it in League 1

8: Have rents for Championship and Premiership been offered and agreed?

ACL: Yes, all part of the HOT verbally agreed with CCFC on 29th January 2013 in the presence of the Boards of each party, CCFC subsequently reneged on the agreement. Requirement for extra spectator payments subsequently withdrawn verbally.

CCFC: Yes but additional payments of £3 per spectator over 15k in Championship and £4 per spectator over 16k in Premiership were not acceptable as impacted financial viability (cashflow b/e) and ticket sales our only material source of revenue.

Then again this was the meeting where "Any handshakes - and not everyone had hands....etc."

 

[Nick]

What I don't get with this levy is that if CCFC are the Ricoh and have no access to revenue from food etc and their only income on the day is from Ticket Sales then taking a % of that is a bit cheeky? If it is CCFC driving people there and the council makes all the money from everything else like food, beers and even parking fines

I haven't read the full terms of the proposed agreement though so I don't really know exactly what is said.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Some mental MEP self promoting herself, asking soft ball questions and making Joy sound like a saint. What a load of nonsense.

 

[sky blue john]

And you know this how?

Probably because only one side seems to be able to file its accounts with companies house on time every year !!!!

 

[lordsummerisle]

What I don't get with this levy is that if CCFC are the Ricoh and have no access to revenue from food etc and their only income on the day is from Ticket Sales then taking a % of that is a bit cheeky? If it is CCFC driving people there and the council makes all the money from everything else like food, beers and even parking fines

I haven't read the full terms of the proposed agreement though so I don't really know exactly what is said.

It's a crap offer for both sides.

Think that we all would prefer as many people to be in the Ricoh as possible, good for the team to have more support, good for ACL to have more revenue from pies, beer, car parking etc.

Would hardly encourage any promotions of £10 a ticket, or buy one get one free, or giving free tickets to local schools would it?

 

[James Smith]

Didn't Joy say she went to a meeting and nobody was there from the council that were meant to be? Lucas / that Martin fella?

I might be wrong though, just going off memory.

I thought it was an ownership meeting of the Ricoh and as such ACL weren't involved in it which would explain why the ACL directors weren't there - may be wrong.

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Can't beat this board.

Nikki Sinclaire meets with Joy Seppalla, asks questions on behalf of the fans and it's written off as pointless.

The KCIC campaign demonstrates outside SISU HQ, doesn't meet JS and doesn't ask any pertinent questions. It's lauded as some sort of heroic act.

The pertinent question that KCIC asked was "will you meet and talk with the fans Joy?" Answer " NO oh and by the way dont ask me any more and fuck off"

 

[James Smith]

What I don't get with this levy is that if CCFC are the Ricoh and have no access to revenue from food etc and their only income on the day is from Ticket Sales then taking a % of that is a bit cheeky? If it is CCFC driving people there and the council makes all the money from everything else like food, beers and even parking fines

I haven't read the full terms of the proposed agreement though so I don't really know exactly what is said.

The agreement hasn't been released publically as far as I know but this is from the trust Q&A.

11: Have there been detailed discussions regarding match day income and what revenues CCFC want access to?

ACL: Yes

CCFC: Yes

12: £100,000 has been publicised as the value of food and beverage income – is this 50% of the profits i.e. ACL’s half from the EIC joint venture?

ACL: In principle – we have all accepted that more work is needed on the detail of this, and it needs to be agreed with ACL’s contracted partner Compass, so it is not simply in ACL’s gift. Of course match-day income is also influenced by attendances, these we have seen drop from an average of 13,126 in 11/12 to a current year to date average of 9,259

Match-day F&B Turnover in 11/12 season was £1,010,992, with Nett Profit of £119,903.

ACL would be willing to give CCFC full details of the F & B accounts and were prepared to go open book and even allow CCFC to use the revenue figures in the clubs FFP calculations?

CCFC: CCFC would have to negotiate with ACL partner Compass but if after 3 months Compass would not agree access to this level of revenue indicated by ACL, we would ask that the rent be reduced by £100k

14: Did the club sell the rights to match day catering income to ACL or were these part of the sales of the ACL shares to the Higgs Charity? How much for and when?

ACL: Yes on the sale of its shares to The Higgs Charity. CCFC sold Football Investors Ltd, the non-trading company that owns 50% of the shares in ACL, to the Higgs Charity in 2003 for £6.5m.

CCFC: The club relinquished this income to ACL but I am not aware of what it received in return

 

[LastGarrison]

This is something that McGinnity and co should have made very clear to SISU when they bought the club, but then SISU should have been thourough to begin with and weren't and that's their fault.

Maybe so, but I don't see any other alternatives maybe when we are more than 2 more games into the season I should judge the effect of NOPM, but so far it doesn't seem like it will work.

It is just personally I would expect a little more evidence than the fact that they are still here and have agreed to support CCFC for x amount of years before I accepted it as sufficient that they will be true to their word.

Once bitten and all that.

 

[jesus-wept]

Not too sure of the political divide as an Independent which is what I think she is Nikki Sinclaire stands. But it is she who has tried to get political. In an interview on CWR last week she managed to get in the phrase Ann Lucas and her party. It is at that point my opinion in her and her motives changed. I keep saying this, this issue is NOT POLITICAL, the council stance has all party backing, confirmed the other week when interviewed by the Tory leader Councillor Blundell. Lucas is council leader yes and will catch the flak as her predecessor John Mutton did, but she is only the figure head something Ms Sinclair seems to not get into her head.

 

[torchomatic]

We don't have any actual evidence that this £4 levy actually exists, it's just a claim from the Queen of the Shadows and hasn't been proved or denied yet.

But I will still dismiss it as rubbish. I think its time for fans to finally realise ACLs role in this whole mess.

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[lordsummerisle]

This is a good one: Seems that there was only one side wiling to negotiate or be willing to have an independent arbritator.

ACL applied to put us into administration shortly after this meeting it appears.

30: Are ACL willing to be bound by an agreement brokered by independent mediators or arbitrator?

ACL: No. We have put our best and final offer on the table after months of negotiation with both SISU and CCFC. It was a reasonable and generous offer, as recognised by all 3 CCFC directors in attendance on 29 January 2013, as they verbally accepted it and shook hands in confirmation. We are not prepared to make further concessions, nor do we believe that any mediator could reasonably expect that we would. The ball is in CCFC’s court. Negotiations are now at an end, and the Board of CCFC have been duly notified.
CCFC: Yes. Any Arbitrator(s) would need to look at matters such as the lawfulness of the original licence, the financial viability of ACL, monies paid to ACL for utilities/other services and the fact there appears to be no contract for these and the monies paid by CCFC to ACL during the period of the dispute.

 

[jesus-wept]

But I will still dismiss it as rubbish. I think its time for fans to finally realise ACLs role in this whole mess.

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There's no doubting ACL/CCCs role in this mess hasn't been good to say the least, but that is water under the bridge now, only sisu and Joy Sepalla can alter things now alsorts of offers, reduced rent, free rent etc, etc. been made but rejected out of hand by Fisher. Sepalla can over rule that and earn her company an extra £200000 per home game.

 

[WiganSkyBlue]

Nikki Sinclair is an MEP from the breakaway Tory party (ukip), which means that she and Joy already have a meeting of minds in ideology, and politically it is advantageous to her to have a go at CCC. I would take anything she says with a huge barrow load of salt. Once the Euro elections are out of the way you won't hear a peep from her. IMO

 

[torchomatic]

There's no doubting ACL/CCCs role in this mess hasn't been good to say the least, but that is water under the bridge now, only sisu and Joy Sepalla can alter things now alsorts of offers, reduced rent, free rent etc, etc. been made but rejected out of hand by Fisher. Sepalla can over rule that and earn her company an extra £200000 per home game.

Oh so its "water under the bridge" for ACL? FFS....

its not jyst down to SISU to 'alter things' at all!

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[Grappa]

This is a good one: Seems that there was only one side wiling to negotiate or be willing to have an independent arbritator.

ACL applied to put us into administration shortly after this meeting it appears.

ACL: Mediators would agree with us therefore we don't want mediation.

Huh?

 

[thaiskyblue]

yup, expected to see the pathetic pro acl posts everywhere

as a neutral CCFC fan,its what i already knew,council are dicks,sisu not much better

but it should be pointed out that since relegation SISU have backed the managers and invested int he club, it does seem they have learnt from past mistakes and if council can stop hindering us maybe we can move forwards and upwards.

balls in councils court,the administrator,football league, neutrals(bar that judge admittedly) all siding with sisu, maybe people should stop screaming conspiracy and realise the council are in the wrong.

when have sisu backed the managers ?

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

This is a good one: Seems that there was only one side wiling to negotiate or be willing to have an independent arbritator.

ACL applied to put us into administration shortly after this meeting it appears.

I quoted this in a thread a while back and was told I was lying and that ACL suggested it and SISU rejected it

The pro ACL bias is laughable on here

 

[chiefdave]

Levy is a bit of a misleading term I think and she's making it sound like ACL want £4 from every ticket on top of the rent which is not quite true.

Looks to me more like an offer to reduce the rent from £1.2m to £400K and then should the crowds increase significantly and the club get promotion ACL receives more. That seems fair really given that SISU are arguing that the rent is too much for a L1 team. It seems fair to me that if ACL drop the rent now as SISU have managed to drive most of the supporters away and get us relegated that if and when the club starts to do well the rent increases.

The questions that never seems to get asked is what deal SISU would accept. Why do they not put that in the public domain, the only reason I can think of is that's the deal they want is not one anyone else would view as reasonable.

 

[sky blue john]

Can the non-pro acl fans please tell me what efforts Sisu have made to get ccfc playing in Cov other than applying for JR ????

 

[ajsccfc]

Holy triple negative Batman.

 

[Grappa]

Can the non-pro acl fans please tell me what efforts Sisu have made to get ccfc playing in Cov other than applying for JR ????

Only if the anti non-pro acl fans tell me what efforts acl have made to get ccfc playing in Cov other than making fake rent proposals first.

 

[longjohnskyblue]

What I do agree with is that the council are the only party who by changing their current position could bring about resolution! Sisu are still 90% to blame for moving to Northampton though in my opinion irrespective of anything else

Sisu are 100% to blame! Sisu dodn't pay the rent, sisu placed the club into administration. Sisu have systematically refused to budge a single inch - if anything their stance has hardened!

Still not a single person has ever stated what the council has done wrong, the only thing they have done "wrong" isw not give away the arena for free!

 

[Nsgdm1]

Perhaps Nikki Sinclaire is Joy Seppala

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Can the non-pro acl fans please tell me what efforts Sisu have made to get ccfc playing in Cov other than applying for JR ????

They listened to a media stunt of which was supposed to be an offer from ACL.

Beyond that there isn't very much however what have the council or ACL done... Sweet FA.