But no one knows what we've specifically asked them for. There's more than one way to skin a cat.
This Wasps monopoly of extortionate permits? So how was that table set up? Because that table is so bad it would be more profitable to be without it!
I have seen fans displaying more merchandise.
What planet are you on Italia?
We are tenants who signed an agreement that didnt include shop space. Want it we pay to lease the space.
But why is it SISU always have problems setting up working relationships? TF reassured us how good they were at working with people when Wasps moved in.
Wasps are hardly that stricked if SISU can just set up a crappy table selling merchandise inside the ground?
Which distracts not a jot from my point here. Our merchandise is crap, given. That isn't linked to the fact that we've asked Wasps for permanent space and haven't got it.
It went something like this I guessSome people seem reluctant to accept that Wasps might be in this entirely for themselves, particularly the councillors who signed the deal claiming that the club's future is assured at the Ricoh under Wasps, and those claiming that they want to be 'partners'.
It is not just the merchandise is crap....the merchandising of it is even worse! If this is the best we can have, and I don't believe it, we would be better off not even bothering and put our efforts into a good online shop.
CCC have conspired against us, Wasps have conspired against us...meanwhile SISU are building a new stadium despite the whole world putting obstacles in their way.
They have put a squad of promotion contenders together yet every other team in League 1 has conspired against us.
Either that or the owners just have no rudder on their boat.
So how was that table set up?
The evidence here is that the club have asked for permanent space, and Wasps have knocked us back. It's a bit of a leap to say this is down to the club solely - if Wasps are so keen to have us as partners, as is oft claimed here and elsewhere, surely this would be a simple enough request to fulfil.
Instead of a permanent space, they've let us have a crappy paste table (accepted that it seems too big for our current stock levels!). Maybe instead of access to ACL income streams they'll let us have a crappy rent deal.
Some people seem reluctant to accept that Wasps might be in this entirely for themselves, particularly the councillors who signed the deal claiming that the club's future is assured at the Ricoh under Wasps, and those claiming that they want to be 'partners'.
More of a charity case, unfortunately.
Some people may be reluctant to accept that Wasps are solely in it for themselves, based on seven years of experience with SISU!
tbh, I'd have thought seven years of SISU would make one more cynical and mistrusting of easy platitudes from a commercial organisation...
At a guess we rent the ground for a certain number of hours on matchday and can do what we like on the concourse so long as we setup and breakdown with the allotted time.
If that is your best don't bother.
"It is a bit of a leap to say it is down to the club solely" but no more of a leap than you solely blaming Wasps?
I repeat if that is the best we can have, then let's not have it.
Some people may be reluctant to accept that Wasps are solely in it for themselves, based on seven years of experience with SISU! Broken relationships repeating themselves....how many managers, how many directors? Have you ever thought something isn't right about SISU?
Here is what the club had to say in response, so they have asked and they didn't get.
@skyblueGnr is in the RAF not CCFC management
If this is some sort of attempt to call me a SISU apologist, then you're talking rubbish Hobo, and you know it.
I'm pointing out that Wasps haven't been able to give us permanent space for retail, and on that basis I think it's highly unlikely that a deal for the much more serious business of the ACL streams will be as straightforward as many are pretending (or pretended when the stadium was sold). Further, if Wasps really wanted to be 'partners' then I can't see that finding some room at the Ricoh would have been that much of an issue.
Expanding the argument to try to get into how crap SISU are doesn't change that.
I am not calling any fans anything other than fans, But I am calling SISU for what they are....incompetent. Where is the evidence they set anything up properly?
Every business is restricted by problems within in any given market place. SISU seem to have above average problems. They seem to lack ideas and simple solutions when it comes to the simplest of tasks.
TF and SW tell us how professionally they are running the club, more professionally than would be expected at Lge 1 level. Personally I don't see any evidence of it?
Whether it is a 4 year contract to a manager, selling our best player and taking 3 on loan as part of the deal, moving us to Northampton for a year, having no scouting system at the club, a table with some random merchandise on it, not being able to cope with ticketing demand on their return to the Ricoh, their press statements contradicting each other within days.
Displaying no viable business plan on or off the pitch.
But they are good at "building relationships" so let's keep the faith in all that is SISU?
No lets definitely not have faith in SISU, and don't put that faith into Wasps instead.
At which point did I put faith or even display any faith in Wasps?
@skyblueGnr is in the RAF not CCFC management
Obviously a Rockape, so not that bright anyway..
It is the CCFC merchandising operation at last nights match
Obviously a Rockape, so not that bright anyway..
http://www.wasps.co.uk/news/article/2014/10/08/the-ricoh-arena-q-as
Ha ha ha!
We are delighted to see Coventry City back at the Ricoh Arena and this is where we want them to remain. We look forward to building a long and fruitful partnership with the Sky Blues.
Give us a trestle table and watch us thrive. Bell ends.
Watch some CCFC 'fans' defend them. Use your own expletives....
WM
http://www.wasps.co.uk/news/article/2014/10/08/the-ricoh-arena-q-as
Ha ha ha!
We are delighted to see Coventry City back at the Ricoh Arena and this is where we want them to remain. We look forward to building a long and fruitful partnership with the Sky Blues.
Give us a trestle table and watch us thrive. Bell ends.
Watch some CCFC 'fans' defend them. Use your own expletives....
WM
And we/you know this how? Have the club asked our landlord? Have you?
The words of a snivelling cap doffer
Asked for what exactly? Clearly a food kiosk is the only thing that has been ruled out so what have they asked for? Space in our old club shop? One of the old dingy office's back? Have they even suggested a mobile shop out front. At the Gillingham game didn't Sky/BT (don't recall who was filming on the day) have a whole fans interactive station set up from mobile units (more than one) outside the ground? Not even in the car park IIRC but on the block paving right outside the ground. You could almost go as far as to say that this area was designed for mobile merchandising. In fact now I think about it I've also seen this area being used for mobile retail units when I've been to see bands play at the Ricoh.
The words of a snivelling cap doffer
.... and at Wasps games these units are dotted around the outside so even the smokers can go outside and have a drink and something to eat.
Inside they have singers performing in gazebos that seem multi purpose.
No excuses CCFC sales team I'm afraid.
But they wont let CCFC do this out of spite apparently
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