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I don't agree. It is a real problem that Simms doesn't do much aside from the goals. He doesn't hold onto the ball or challenge the defenders. He is pretty much like Godden in this respect and he doesn't score as many goals as Godden.Score goals, it doesn’t matter what contribution he makes as long as he does that.
Well you saw more than I did, you don’t do it in ones you do it in twos and threes so you don’t get booked. It’s called intimidation, something we need to learn.Palmer and Thomas?
Kitching?
As much as I want our players to stick up for themselves, it’s about doing it in the right way and making decisions that don’t lead to an unnecessary sending off. Bobby Thomas did it yesterday after the second foul on Sakamoto, went and had a word without raising his hands etc.
I've just had a look at all his league goals,Because he ultimately delivered nothing
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Agreed. He should have started, and the chance he had, he made himself and got it on target. Hardly a miss. Also the flack Simms is getting…He wasn’t great yesterday but Wright, Saka , MVE and Bidwell weren’t either. He led the line brilliantly at Leeds, and scored an equaliser midweek.Amazing people criticising Palmer. He was very lively when he came on and their keeper made a good save from him. He did far more in his short period on the pitch than many players who started. I would say he was one of the top performers yesterday and I hope he starts in Tuesday.
It is really quite ridiculous how much he is picked on by certain elements.
It's a pattern mateAmazing people criticising Palmer. He was very lively when he came on and their keeper made a good save from him. He did far more in his short period on the pitch than many players who started. I would say he was one of the top performers yesterday and I hope he starts in Tuesday.
It is really quite ridiculous how much he is picked on by certain elements.
Two good reaction saves. Wright has pressure on both shoulders after creating the chance himself and has to get the shot away when he does. Low and just to the keepers side is sometimes harder for the keeper to deal with than a bit wider which they can get down to. Palmer's, the ball is going across his body from a quick passing move, the keeper is moving to his left to cover the near post, if Palmer puts it there, it's probably a save, he goes back across the goal, and it's a great reaction from Gunn. Both good attempts producing good saves.Two really poor finishes from great positions, both far too close to the keeper. I'd put money on O'Hare and Sakamoto scoring the there.
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Amazing people criticising Palmer. He was very lively when he came on and their keeper made a good save from him. He did far more in his short period on the pitch than many players who started. I would say he was one of the top performers yesterday and I hope he starts in Tuesday.
It is really quite ridiculous how much he is picked on by certain elements.
I’ve seen these comments from The Pinkun. Given that we are playing below par I think this is a positive:It's the same people over and over again.
Apparently now playing well and being a threat but with poor final ball is worse than playing badly and having poor final ball.
I bet if you asked Norwich fans at full time they'd rather have faced any of Wright/Simms/Sakamoto for 90 minutes than Palmer.
And before anyone says, no I'm not saying he's better than those players.
Simms and Wright haven’t had games like that, they’ve had 1 or 2 (if we’re lucky) big chances in a game.
Going down the racism route again?It's a pattern mate
Amazing the negative remarks on Palmer from certain sections but no comment in how poor Allen and Bidwell were. I am not saying they aren't decent players but they were poor yesterday.It's the same people over and over again.
Apparently now playing well and being a threat but with poor final ball is worse than playing badly and having poor final ball.
I bet if you asked Norwich fans at full time they'd rather have faced any of Wright/Simms/Sakamoto for 90 minutes than Palmer.
And before anyone says, no I'm not saying he's better than those players.
I haven't seen any recent stats, but to my memory Godden has missed quite a few chances this season that I'm sure he would have finished in previous seasons (including 2 penalties). While pace has never been his thing, he nevertheless also appears to have lost a yard in pace and seems very easily beaten to the ball this season. Wright has also fluffed quite a few one on ones that I remember, while Simms hasn't really got started.
The assists list you have put up would also look significantly different if our forwards had taken the chances they should have. I'm not having it that the fault lies with the likes of O'Hare, Saka & Sheaf.
Amazing the negative remarks on Palmer from certain sections but no comment in how poor Allen and Bidwell were. I am not saying they aren't decent players but they were poor yesterday.
I think most people would say Palmer was one of our best players yesterday for the period he was on, but some will always criticise him no matter what. Probably only Torp and O'Hare come out of that match with more credit than Palmer.
Sainz can't half leather a ball. That wasn't even his best goal this week!My heads gone! I thought the black haired fella who scored was Sargeantthat Sainz looked a good threat. Now I know who Sargeant is I thought he did the ugly part of a striker well which is what we need from Simms at times.
Missed chances are going to frustrate people. Palmer looked really good yesterday, until it came to the final pass or finish. Unfortunately for him, he won’t be starter until that improves. I hate to admit it, but @Grendel’s ‘nearly man’ label is not unfair.
As for Allen, he had a decent game, but his final ball was lacking too. His final ball to Palmer, ironically, was perfect. That was MR’s assessment too.
COH deserves the plaudits for a fantastic goal and Torp was very good defensively and on the ball - he just isn’t fully match fit to last 90m at this stage.
People have been saying Bidwell was poor so I don’t get that comment.
2 or 3 on the bounce he's been this way. Shame JDS is no great shakes defendingBidwell also guilty of fluffing some easy passes too. Looked very leggy on the recovery too.
They didn't really want to. They had to sell Simms & Cannon to help with FFP. He's scored goals everywhere else he's been & there was a queue of Championship clubs trying to sign him.
Wright's effort reminded me of the one Harry Kane failed to score in the World Cup SF a few years ago. Not that I've ever brought myself to watch it again.Yeah it was a good save for Wrights too, but it was an easier chance than Palmer's and he really had to score it. Very bad miss.
What is it that makes him rubbish ?Sorry Palmer is rubbish, people saying he has the most skill in the team is absolute crap.
Exactly this. Compare this to Jamie Allen's contribution last season. It is night and day. Palmer is clearly twice as skilful and has far more ability. I'm sure he's the best player in training every day. Come match day his impact on the result of a game is absolutely nothing.I've just had a look at all his league goals,
1 Vs Blackpool first goal we then went on to lose 2-1
1 Vs Norwich at 3-1 down to make it 3-2 lost 4-2
1 Vs huddlesfield, already 1-0 up, to make it 2-0
This season 3rd against Sunderland already 2-0 up to make it 3-0.
He doesn't even score big goals at key moments.
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Final ball pass?What is it that makes him rubbish ?
I disagree, he's not rubbish and clearly has a lot of technical skill. That's what makes him so frustrating, he does one thing brilliantly and then next thing fluffs his lines.Sorry Palmer is rubbish, people saying he has the most skill in the team is absolute crap.
Why don’t we compare Allen and Palmer on this season’s contributions?Exactly this. Compare this to Jamie Allen's contribution last season. It is night and day. Palmer is clearly twice as skilful and has far more ability. I'm sure he's the best player in training every day. Come match day his impact on the result of a game is absolutely nothing.
Don't really know what I would do with him if I was coach. If you watched one of our games you could be fooled into thinking he is out best player. For balance, I used to be very critical of O'Hare - his end product has improved unbelievably since his return from injury. Really hope Palmer can do the same.
I disagree, he's not rubbish and clearly has a lot of technical skill. That's what makes him so frustrating, he does one thing brilliantly and then next thing fluffs his lines.
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Doesn't score goals and doesn't assist goals for others and for most his time here struggled to play a full 90 minutes due to his fitness.What is it that makes him rubbish ?
Doesn't score goals and doesn't assist goals for others and for most his time here struggled to play a full 90 minutes due to his fitness.
Amazing people criticising Palmer. He was very lively when he came on and their keeper made a good save from him. He did far more in his short period on the pitch than many players who started. I would say he was one of the top performers yesterday and I hope he starts in Tuesday.
It is really quite ridiculous how much he is picked on by certain elements.
It's a pattern mate
So he's second last out of our attacking midfielders and wingers? Only ahead of AllenHe has the most assists per 90 minutes of anyone in the squad this season (bar Torp and his very small sample size!).
And if you do it on goals and assists per 90 he's behind O'Hare, Wright and Sakamoto only.
I disagree, he's not rubbish and clearly has a lot of technical skill. That's what makes him so frustrating, he does one thing brilliantly and then next thing fluffs his lines.
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So he's second last out of our attacking midfielders and wingers? Only ahead of Allen
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