Realistically over the course of their tenure they have paid peanuts for the majority of signings. They’ve been incredibly lucky that they picked up O’Hare, Hamer and Vik for nothing in the grand scheme of fees in this division. That’s not down to the owners ambition. That’s down to Robins, Viveash and the recruitment team playing an absolute blinder.The words you used were 'They don’t really give a toss about the strength of the squad'.
If they didn't, they wouldn't have paid money for Hamer, no?
The words you used were 'They don’t really give a toss about the strength of the squad'.
If they didn't, they wouldn't have paid money for Hamer, no?
They didn't pay any money for Hamer, the club funded the transfer itself through money it generated itself. The owners have not put any actual net investment in for 10 years or more.
Desperate to get him soldBoddy dropping hints to Burnley via a favoured journalist now is it, despicable
why wouldnt the same thing happen here?
Burnley wouldn't loan O'Hare to a Premier League rival...OHare back on loan for the 23/24 season when Burnley get promoted then?
It depends if it is paid or accrued.
Do we really need to sell Callum or is it him that is forcing the move it's about time we stopped being a selling club if we want to reach the so called promised land.
After the last major sale SISU awarded themselves an interest payment of £1.6m I believe it was, given their accrued interest in the last accounts was £11m on a loan with a value of £9m, I have no doubt a payment will be made. Plus some set aside from repayment of the EFL loans (£1.1m owed for that by May 2022).
So you're certain there's no foundation, and all of them will be here for the full season?Warms my heart to see how decent Fulham and Burnley are in letting Hamer and O'Hare still train with us and play in friendly matches for us even though we've sold them
So you're certain there's no foundation, and all of them will be here for the full season?
No mention of a fee. Bracing myself for £4m.
No, selling is fine as long as a reasonable amount finds its way back to the manager. If it doesn’t then there is no “model” and Boddy/SISU should rightly be castigated
Do we really need to sell Callum or is it him that is forcing the move it's about time we stopped being a selling club if we want to reach the so called promised land.
Alternatively, people are just nervous about one or more of our better players going, and worried about whether we'll get a replacement at all, let alone a good one. What's wrong with that?Doubt it, I imagine one will go at some point but the pre bed wetting on here is hilarious as people believe anything that paints the club in a negative light for some reason and then ignore the positive stuff (or try and find a reason that it's bad) I just don't get that mentality
Alternatively, people are just nervous about one or more of our better players going, and worried about whether we'll get a replacement at all, let alone a good one. What's wrong with that?
I'd rather be like that and be leasantly surprised when Ronaldo rocks up as Gyokeres's replacement, then be totally surprised hen a player goes, as if I'd never seen that happen here before.
What do you want as a base, then? What is acceptable? After however many years of nonsensical owners (not just this lot!) are you surprised the default is negative?Which is fine if there is a base to those worries
What do you want as a base, then? What is acceptable? After however many years of nonsensical owners (not just this lot!) are you surprised the default is negative?
I'm still waiting for the Operation premiership cash to be spent!
I dunno, I find the noise very different this year to last (OK, Sheaf was already confirmed beforehand but he signed permanently, we spent on Gyokeres) or the one before that (we bought Hamer). There's been nothing like that, and the talk has instead been of players being sold with nothing other than a bit of a punt to console us.But the noise is different this year in that we seemingly haven't accepted the first bids for our star players as we have done in the past and are waiting for a more acceptable offer which has to be a step in the right direction (but again this has been ignored so people can go boo Sisu as the default)
I get the fact people have a default negative view and it's completely understandable but there is no evidence for it at the moment which is why I find it a bit bewildering
It's not even a reasonable amount, it's an amount sufficient to ensure that the squad's overall standard does not regress
But when has the squad regressed in the last 5 years, when we've sold our better players (arguably lesser players than CoH but important players at the time)?
I dunno, I find the noise very different this year to last (OK, Sheaf was already confirmed beforehand but he signed permanently, we spent on Gyokeres) or the one before that (we bought Hamer). There's been nothing like that, and the talk has instead been of players being sold with nothing other than a bit of a punt to console us.
If we'd signed a Gyokeres as-was or a Hamer as-was, I'm sure people would be a bit more phlegmatic.
I dunno, I find the noise very different this year to last (OK, Sheaf was already confirmed beforehand but he signed permanently, we spent on Gyokeres) or the one before that (we bought Hamer). There's been nothing like that, and the talk has instead been of players being sold with nothing other than a bit of a punt to console us.
If we'd signed a Gyokeres as-was or a Hamer as-was, I'm sure people would be a bit more phlegmatic.
I dunno, I find the noise very different this year to last (OK, Sheaf was already confirmed beforehand but he signed permanently, we spent on Gyokeres) or the one before that (we bought Hamer). There's been nothing like that, and the talk has instead been of players being sold with nothing other than a bit of a punt to console us.
If we'd signed a Gyokeres as-was or a Hamer as-was, I'm sure people would be a bit more phlegmatic.
The story is not going away which says to me the club are more than happy to not make a solid stance. With Vik it was put to bed quick 20mill or stop bothering us was the cry when Boro phoned. With O hare it seems they are not making it clear or are making it very clear its about valuation and are willing to deal if met.
If that's the case i hope its with a but, if you don't meet valuation by this day it will go higher closer to the season it gets. The say this is being handled Its a terrible message to the fans, i trust MR but i don't trust these owners or DB, if they pull the rug from us the momentum gained will be lost in one day. We all understand this is a business, but we all want the club to compete, improve and progress. This to me doesn't feel like that, its feels like the old club coming back now they have our attention and already have the money.
If i was the owners id wait till Jan, see how all falls and where we are. And by then his value maybe higher and bigger clubs could meet a valuation quicker with a buy to stay on loan until end of season. Id really hesitate also to sell to a rival when in truth he is one of the best in his position in this league. And that again says we don't see ourselves as rival we are already signalling we cant compete.
All wil play out and im sure MR will be in the loop, but COH is not the one id sell.
Can you guarantee that Burnley will be in the promotion mix?
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