Transfer Rumour Panzo coming back? (2 Viewers)

[fernandopartridge]

Panzo was technically a good player, his biggest problem is concentration. If we could pick him up for a reasonable fee I'd have him.

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[Martin180]

No I wouldn’t have, because Doyle is better

our centre backs got dominated all game

So what was your stupid reply for?

 

[David O'Day]

The other centre backs were really good that day remember David

Fadz got bullied at times and wasn't McNally 30 yards out of position for their goal? But something that happened as their bloke cheated is what is always mentioned. There was no Panzo trauma in the final for me because even from 100 metres away it was a clear handball. I'm shocked other people couldn't see it

 

[Matt smith]

So what was your stupid reply for?

Wasn’t stupid at all

recency bias over that clanger in the final

but our other centre backs weren’t great either, that’s my point ffs

 

[Martin180]

Wasn’t stupid at all

recency bias over that clanger in the final

but our other centre backs weren’t great either, that’s my point ffs

Sorry I thought you were trying to say we would have won and kept a clean sheet if Panzo had started

 

[Matt smith]

Fadz got bullied at times and wasn't McNally 30 yards out of position for their goal? But something that happened as their bloke cheated is what is always mentioned. There was no Panzo trauma in the final for me because even from 100 metres away it was a clear handball. I'm shocked other people couldn't see it

This^

 

[David O'Day]

Matt has point, people seem to not mention the awful defencing Fadz and McNally did that day

 

[Matt smith]

Sorry I thought you were trying to say we would have won and kept a clean sheet of Panzo had started

No I’m echoing exactly what @David O'Day has just said

 

[Matt smith]

Matt has point, people seem to not mention the awful defencing Fadz and McNally did that day

I like McNally but I don’t get the status he gets on here

he was good for us but nothing we can’t replace with Thomas

 

[Martin180]

Matt has point, people seem to not mention the awful defencing Fadz and McNally did that day

The back line was dreadful for the first half . We knew what Luton what do and throw at us and didn't handle it .
The weird assumption now that Panzo would've solved that seems very bizarre

 

[David O'Day]

The Chelsea player would be my first choice but if we can't do that deal then Panzo would be a decent addition to our pool of CBs

 

[Martin180]

No I’m echoing exactly what @David O'Day has just said

Both , if which I'm reading we should've started Panzo , are absolutely bizarre

 

[Martin180]

I like McNally but I don’t get the status he gets on here

he was good for us but nothing we can’t replace with Thomas

I think Thomas will be a solid investment for us

 

[David O'Day]

The back line was dreadful for the first half . We knew what Luton what do and throw at us and didn't handle it .
The weird assumption now that Panzo would've solved that seems very bizarre

No one is saying that

We are talking about how one moment where a Luton player cheated is always brought up when you talk about Panzo but no one mentions McNally being in a different city to the Luton forward for their goal

 

[Matt smith]

Both , if which I'm reading we should've started Panzo , are absolutely bizarre

I haven’t said that at all, Doyle is better

I’m saying the defence weren’t great that day, what’s not to understand?

 

[David O'Day]

Both , if which I'm reading we should've started Panzo , are absolutely bizarre

learn to read mate as that not what I said

 

[Martin180]

No one is saying that

We are talking about how one moment where a Luton player cheated is always brought up when you talk about Panzo but no one mentions McNally being in a different city to the Luton forward for their goal

I'm also glad we've got Thomas instead of McNally who also worried me on the ball

 

[Matt smith]

The back line was dreadful for the first half . We knew what Luton what do and throw at us and didn't handle it .
The weird assumption now that Panzo would've solved that seems very bizarre

Not saying he would have done

just saying that no one mentions how poor defensively we were in that first half

would Panzo have made it better? Maybe not

is it unfair to mask over the first half display and just dig out Panzo? Yes

 

[Martin180]

I haven’t said that at all, Doyle is better

I’m saying the defence weren’t great that day, what’s not to understand?

No one disputes that , ever
I've just read that because of our collective defensive ineptitude that we should sign Panzo ?

 

[Matt smith]

No one disputes that , ever
I've just read that because of our collective defensive ineptitude that we should sign Panzo ?

Don’t think you get my point Martin

im on about that particular match

 

[Martin180]

learn to read mate as that not what I said

If it isn't I apologize , just don't see Panzo as a step up on what we've already got or need

 

[Martin180]

Not saying he would have done

just saying that no one mentions how poor defensively we were in that first half

would Panzo have made it better? Maybe not

is it unfair to mask over the first half display and just dig out Panzo? Yes

Just to clarify, as I thought i did earlier , my point is not as regards his dreadful indecision in the final but throughout the season in my opinion

 

[usskyblue]

I wouldn’t be interested in a loan for Panzo but if it’s a reasonable fee, he’s a good player to buy and develop imo.

It was widely reported that we wanted McNally on a permanent but Burnley were only wanting to loan him out.. hence his subsequent loan move. I absolutely fuckinglove the fact we own nearly all of our new signings, that they have room to grow and develop and are on long term contracts.

It’s a huge step in the right direction.

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

If it isn't I apologize , just don't see Panzo as a step up on what we've already got or need

Personally I dont think we need better just a capable back up which is what Panzo is

 

[Old Warwickshire lad]

I wouldn’t be interested in a loan for Panzo but if it’s a reasonable fee, he’s a good player to buy and develop imo.

It was widely reported that we wanted McNally on a permanent but Burnley were only wanting to loan him out.. hence his subsequent loan move. I absolutely fuckinglove the fact we own nearly all of our new signings, that they have room to grow and develop and are on long term contracts.

It’s a huge step in the right direction.

We wanted to buy him, Burnley wouldn’t sell.
Move on, forget about him.
He wasn’t that good anyway ( just my opinion).

 

[Alkhen]

I think people's perspective of Panzo is poisoned by a recency bias, particularly after what happened in the play-off final. He wasn't actually a bad player, he just fell out of form and was probably lacking in confidence after being displaced by Callum Doyle (who was class) in the latter half of the season. Realistically, as a left-footed CB around the age of 22-23, he currently fits our model of recruitment, and I think people have written him off far too soon. There's no doubt a decent player there imo. Definitely wouldn't mind having him back, especially for some much needed squad depth in the defensive department.
Alternatively, I also wouldn't mind taking a punt at Humphreys who would seem to offer some potentially similar qualities minus the trauma attached to Panzo due to that play-off incident

Nailed it, people only remember the heart attack he gave everyone at Wembley.

I thought he was promising bordering good during the first half of the season, he then lost his place (got injured didn't he?) And Doyle was just too good to shift. No shame in that.

If we can get him cheap enough I wouldn't mind having him back to develop properly.

 

[Frostie]

Panzo was technically a good player, his biggest problem is concentration. If we could pick him up for a reasonable fee I'd have him.

I wouldn’t be interested in a loan for Panzo but if it’s a reasonable fee, he’s a good player to buy and develop imo.

Agree with you guys.

This is what I said almost a year ago now & I'd stand by it:

Panzo is one of those players I'd love as a permanent signing to bed in gradually because it's clear he has the quality & in time would be a perfect fit for us. We know that was the original plan but never materialised.
As it is though he makes some basic errors & looks lost positionally at the moment which is not ideal for a season long loan as we're developing him for someone else to ultimately benefit.

 

[Old Warwickshire lad]

Errm… Isn’t that wot I justsaid m8?

It was meant for the ones that think he was a world beater.

 

[fatso]

I was asking where the massive improvement was to come ?
He was athletic and physical but technically inept , improving that is difficult in the short term

Christ, did Panzo run over your cat or something?

 

[Covcraig@bury]

Are we/have we signed him ? That’s all I what to know at 6.0 o’clock in the morning.

 

[slowpoke]

I’d be okay with Panzo thought he did okay first half of the season in difficult circumstances considering our poor start, got injured after xmas and was sidelined a number of weeks and Doyle nailed the LCB spot.
Once we settled after that poor start our defence was just as mean with him in the team. Offer £1.5mill perhaps with a sell on clause think that would be a decent deal.
Don’t want a loan.
I have heard though that we are in for a Premiership loan for CB if that’s true can’t see us going for Panzo as well.

 

[Bennettbarnet]

Panzo was not technically inept. He wasn't perfect, but he had a good base to work from.

I think the poster who suggested Panzo induced PTSD from his play-off howler is spot on. Remove that, and we would look at him a bit more favourably.

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[TomRad85]

I'm not against Panzo at all, maybe I'd just gotten greedy as with the money we'd be splashing about I still half expected us to spend biggish on our final defender. There's something to work with on Panzo though, but a loan would make little sense.

Also I accept I don't know much about Binks and maybe he is good enough to be our starting LCB this season.

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[slowpoke]

Can’t understand the play-off “howler” talk, it was handball and should have been seen immediately by the referee and linesman.

 

[play_in_skyblue_stripes]

I would like to see him back.