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fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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Happy_Martian said:
It's the one from the Cov Telegraph site and its MPs who were agreeing with the bill, not those who attended. And its Mr G. Robinson whose name wasn't listed. Wonder why he never signed ? :cool:
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....and why the local paper hasn't seized upon it if he hasn't
 
eastwoodsdustman

eastwoodsdustman

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Happy_Martian said:
It's the one from the Cov Telegraph site and its MPs who were agreeing with the bill, not those who attended. And its Mr G. Robinson whose name wasn't listed. Wonder why he never signed ? :cool:
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Glad it wasn't just me looking to see where he was! He'll be as far away as possible from it I reckon. Possibly France or on a hard shoulder somewhere having a nap as you do.
 
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Kingokings204

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Robinson is my MP. What the fuck.

He should sign the thing ffs. It's about being together not split again.
 
eastwoodsdustman

eastwoodsdustman

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Kingokings204 said:
Robinson is my MP. What the fuck.

He should sign the thing ffs. It's about being together not split again.
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Just a possibility but it may be that he wants to keep out of it in case his conduct and involvement in the original deal are looked at. Might or might not be the case, who knows.
 
chiefdave

chiefdave

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What a waste of time. Frustrates me that, as meaningless as the whole exercise may be, we only get questions which pretty much everyone on here could answer without a second thought How is that going to move things forward?

Moaning about the F&P persons testing when the FL themselves have admitted its nothing more than a self certification exercise gets us nowhere.

And then you get Fletcher, who was part of CCC when the Ricoh was sold to Wasps, complaining about things being done as a smokescreen!

Maybe she got some of the bonds as she seems very keen to push that there's no option other than the Ricoh and the club should therefore pay whatever Wasps ask.
 
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Frankley

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Happy_Martian said:
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CovTel posted a list of MPs backing the Early Day Motion. 3 MPs in Coventry and only 2 signed it. Who is the missing nay-sayer ? :stig:
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I see the former Coventry City Council Councilor Kevin Foster is shown in some of the CT footage. Foster is an MP for somewhere in the south west now, his name isn't on the list of MPS.
 
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georgehudson

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eastwood, that was certainly so in the past,
but not so much these days, when they look at the shambles that is the labour party,
it's more of a personal choice now where priorities come before party loyalty
 
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trondegilsoltvedt97

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What hasn't been mentioned on any of the coverage that I've seen - Coleen Fletcher was a labour councillor until 2015, and was chair of the Labour Group and the Chair of the Scrutiny Committee on the Council...
 
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SkyblueBazza

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Captain Dart said:
Damien Collins, fit & proper persons test too narrow. Only checks for with unspent convictions. FL has no latitude to block persons unsuitable to run a football club.
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See it is therefore a pointless exercise to carry out such a 'fit & proper persons test'. Why don't they change their own rules to retain the right to withdraw the Golden Share at any point within a 5yr period if they suspect things are untoward?

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 
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SkyblueBazza

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fernandopartridge said:
Is she stupid or what? Wasps are not offering an extension at the Arena at this time. Honestly, you make the tea for Bob Ainsworth for 30 years and suddenly you're an MP!
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I haven't kept up to date on all this crap tbh...but are you CERTAIN there is no offer to renew? Could it be the case that there was a suggestion to renew the existing deal for 5yrs...but SISU said '50yrs & you've got a deal'? Or 'Halve it & you've got a deal'? That would be no real surprise would it?
Like I say - I don't know myself. Some FACTS would help

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 
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Gosford Green

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A couple of MPs slating the worst owners in the FL to an empty house. Not really told us something we did not know already.
Can we add these MPs to the list of so called conspirators that are lining up against SISU/CCFC, or are the establishment already on it?

SISU are still very quiet.
 
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SkyblueBazza said:
See it is therefore a pointless exercise to carry out such a 'fit & proper persons test'. Why don't they change their own rules to retain the right to withdraw the Golden Share at any point within a 5yr period if they suspect things are untoward?

...onwards & upwards PUSB
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Expelling league clubs would be... radical!
 
fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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Gosford Green said:
A couple of MPs slating the worst owners in the FL to an empty house. Not really told us something we did not know already.
Can we add these MPs to the list of so called conspirators that are lining up against SISU/CCFC, or are the establishment already on it?

SISU are still very quiet.
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Why would they bother responding to this absolute waste of time?
 
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Frankley

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trondegilsoltvedt97 said:
What hasn't been mentioned on any of the coverage that I've seen - Coleen Fletcher was a labour councillor until 2015, and was chair of the Labour Group and the Chair of the Scrutiny Committee on the Council...
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...and Jim Cunningham was a Labour councillor at Coventry City Council too (I think he was either Leader or Deputy Leader)
 
stupot07

stupot07

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SkyblueBazza said:
See it is therefore a pointless exercise to carry out such a 'fit & proper persons test'. Why don't they change their own rules to retain the right to withdraw the Golden Share at any point within a 5yr period if they suspect things are untoward?

...onwards & upwards PUSB
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Expelling league clubs would be... radical!
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Who get punished thr most and loses out though? The fans of said club, when their club has been expelled from thr league and they have to start again from the 8-10 tiers. Most these owners know they are going to lose ££££, yeah they'd lose a bit more but then they would move on and no real impact on them.

Not sure what the answer is but better checks at the start, full disclosure of all shareholders, and stopping clubs from spending beyond their turnover with points penalties would help.

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chiefdave

chiefdave

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SkyblueBazza said:
Why don't they change their own rules to retain the right to withdraw the Golden Share at any point within a 5yr period if they suspect things are untoward?
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Because if they tried to implement that it would be chaos. For a start as soon as they stripped any owner of the GS they'd be up in court. Then think what would happen to the clubs, if there's not a new owner ready to step in immediately what happens?

And what are you judging untoward? You could say something like us moving to Northampton but that was sanctioned by the FA and FL. If they insist on acceptance of any rental deal or make non-payment of rent punishable whats to stop clubs landlords whacking the rent up knowing the clubs have no option other than to pay?
 
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SkyblueBazza

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stupot07 said:
Who get punished thr most and loses out though? The fans of said club, when their club has been expelled from thr league and they have to start again from the 8-10 tiers. Most these owners know they are going to lose ££££, yeah they'd lose a bit more but then they would move on and no real impact on them.

Not sure what the answer is but better checks at the start, full disclosure of all shareholders, and stopping clubs from spending beyond their turnover with points penalties would help.

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I agree...but whichever route - the fans either gain or suffer in most circumstances. This just takes the penalties for potential owners to the extreme so football clubs maybe appear less attractive an investment to the fly-by-night & SISU type potential owners. Football in general would be better off without them imo

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 
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SkyblueBazza

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chiefdave said:
Because if they tried to implement that it would be chaos. For a start as soon as they stripped any owner of the GS they'd be up in court. Then think what would happen to the clubs, if there's not a new owner ready to step in immediately what happens?
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Agree there is no easy answer - but 5yrs of being booted out & initial investments being wiped out in terms of value would tend to motivate potential owners to make this work rather than just plod or not give much of a shit.

chiefdave said:
And what are you judging untoward? You could say something like us moving to Northampton but that was sanctioned by the FA and FL. If they insist on acceptance of any rental deal or make non-payment of rent punishable whats to stop clubs landlords whacking the rent up knowing the clubs have no option other than to pay?
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1. Untoward is circumstantial. Taking us to Northampton would've been a good case in point
2. Nothing stops landlords whacking up the rent now...so nothing changes unless you advocate franchise football clubs

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 
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georgehudson

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this really is an opportunity for the MP's to do all football fans,
who are voting constituents throughout the country a huge favour,
imho, please let us rid ourselves of NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE OWNERS,
tonight's naughty blues tune;
Coco Montoya - Wish I Could Be That Strong
PUSB - that lot out !!!!
 
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dongonzalos

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Nick said:
Did they say the current status?
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Just that there is no public tangible plans for a new stadium and yet with Wasps stopping currently stopping talks, the current deal's end date and the importance of us stopping in Coventry.
A bit about the Northampton move and the great moment we returned. It basically focused on the fact that Nortgampton should never be allowed to happen again.
 
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georgehudson

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i'm never sure about the way political hierarchy goes,
but as far as the follow on to the EDM goes,
i feel Jim Cunningham ought to be lobbying Damien Collins,
who in turn ought to lobby Tracey Crouch with a view to urgently sorting out both the plight of ownership of CCFC & the abject lethargy displayed by both the FA & the FL;
after all, apart from CCFC;
i think supporters of Hull, Charlton, Cardiff, Blackpool, Portsmouth, Rangers, Leeds, Blackburn, & Nott'm F to name but a few, might feel an immediate revision of fit & proper is needed NOW
 
Captain Dart

Captain Dart

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The minister is trying to make the EFL/FA reform themselves with out legislating. It won't work, until there is a bill.
As 110% of parliaments time is going to be spent on Brexit there will be total inaction.

Forget it.
 
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