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  • Start date Jan 17, 2025
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #316
Nick said:
His fitness could be at any level, you have no idea?

If he's been training with us for a week then the staff will have a good idea though.
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I mean none of us have seen his scans, have we?

Obviously if Lampard and co think he's got something to offer then maybe we offer him a contract - I'm not expecting an immediate contribution if we do though, that's for sure
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #317
SBT said:
I mean none of us have seen his scans, have we?

Obviously if Lampard and co think he's got something to offer then maybe we offer him a contract - I'm not expecting an immediate contribution if we do though, that's for sure
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Exactly, hence you can't really say he didn't play because he was unfit etc etc.

We have no idea in reality, he could have a Jamie Allen style engine or he could be a Rooney where he looks at a burger and puts on 4 stone.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #318
Nick said:
Exactly, hence you can't really say he didn't play because he was unfit etc etc.

We have no idea in reality, he could have a Jamie Allen style engine or he could be a Rooney where he looks at a burger and puts on 4 stone.
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Why do you think he couldn't get a game at Charlotte?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #319
SBT said:
Why do you think he couldn't get a game at Charlotte?
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I have no idea, I can't say I have looked or tried to research it or ask any of their fans. Hence I'm not just making things up.
 
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TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #320
Charlotte FC fan in peace.
Look after him.
 
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rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #321
With the club on this one. If he can help great, but let's not break the bank for an out of contract journeyman who has previously turned us down if it means we can't get another CM in.
 
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edgy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #322
Just done a bit of lunchtime googling. It appears J-Patz has been playing for a team called Crown Legacy FC as well as Charlotte. I think they play in a development/reserves league.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #323
edgy said:
Just done a bit of lunchtime googling. It appears J-Patz has been playing for a team called Crown Legacy FC as well as Charlotte. I think they play in a development/reserves league.
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It's the Charlotte FC reserve team
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #324
Crown Legacy FC. The MLS really is the absolute pits.
 
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ptr

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #325
Would assume their is some sort of international clearance that needs to be sorted.

For the lad born in Cov, living in Cov, to sign for Coventry City.
 
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Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #326
skybluecam said:
So you have no idea

They only played 12 games while he was there, you can hardly read much into it.
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But they had a years option on his contract too which they declined to take up.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #327
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Crown Legacy FC. The MLS really is the absolute pits.
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The MLS is a pretty decent standard of league these days. The name of Charlotte's junior team doesn't really change that.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #328
mark82 said:
The MLS is a pretty decent standard of league these days. The name of Charlotte's junior team doesn't really change that.
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It really isn't. It's still very much a retirement league that attracts oversees players who aren't interested in anything other than a final pay check.

No self-respecting footballer in their prime years would ever consider playing there and it shows by the standard. The quality of defending alone makes our back line look like AC Milan's in the 90s.
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #329
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
It really isn't. It's still very much a retirement league that attracts oversees players which aren't interested in anything other than a final pay check.

No self-respecting footballer in their prime years would ever consider playing there and it shows by the standard.

The quality of defending makes our back line look like AC Milan's in the 90s.
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I'm sure you regularly watch MLS games
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #330
skybluecam said:
I'm sure you regularly watch MLS games
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I’m sure you do too
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #331
 

Lamps

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #332
rob9872 said:
With the club on this one. If he can help great, but let's not break the bank for an out of contract journeyman who has previously turned us down if it means we can't get another CM in.
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If 7k a week is breaking the bank it's simple. We're fucked.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #333
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
It really isn't. It's still very much a retirement league that attracts oversees players who aren't interested in anything other than a final pay check.

No self-respecting footballer in their prime years would ever consider playing there and it shows by the standard. The quality of defending alone makes our back line look like AC Milan's in the 90s.
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Paterson is in his 30s, he’s not in his prime…

Even if we signed him, he’s not being brought in as the main man but a squad player. Someone with 13 or so goal contributions last season isn’t to be sniffed at.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #334
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Paterson is in his 30s, he’s not in his prime…

Even if we signed him, he’s not being brought in as the main man but a squad player. Someone with 13 or so goal contributions last season isn’t to be sniffed at.
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Your post is completely irrelevant to this conversation.

I haven't even mentioned Paterson.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #335
Lamps said:
If 7k a week is breaking the bank it's simple. We're fucked.
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Or maybe it's breaking the bank for him and more than what is deemed worth.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #336
He’s welcome to keep earning fuck all of course. I can’t imagine anyone else at this level is going to offer him much.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #337
Nick said:
Or maybe it's breaking the bank for him and more than what is deemed worth.
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7k a week is breaking the bank, Jesus Christ if we’re struggling to pay new players that we’re in massive trouble
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #338
SkyBlueDom26 said:
7k a week is breaking the bank, Jesus Christ if we’re struggling to pay new players that we’re in massive trouble
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Now read what I posted and what you quoted.
 
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Domo

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #339
think admins will make some kinda of made in "cov, signs for cov, hes one of our own etc etc etc" videos when/(IF) he signs?
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #340
It's not that £7k is breaking the bank, but we have a squad value and rules to follow. If that £7k means we can't afford to pay our potential incoming midfielder eg £18k then it's more breaking the structure that enables us to improve, when arguably he's a risk.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #341
Lamps said:
If 7k a week is breaking the bank it's simple. We're fucked.
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7k a week and a year supply of Rapeseed oil, that should seal it.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #342
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
7k a week and a year supply of Rapeseed oil, that should seal it.
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Careful, we'll have Partey , Sigurdsson and Greenwood wanting to sign.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #343
Lads

It's GIMOC, it's all bollocks
 
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ceetee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #344
SBT said:
This is demonstrably untrue - MLS salaries are all published every year as part of the players' union agreement with the league. Paterson was on $534,000 a year, which works out at roughly £8,400 a week. £7k would be a pay cut.

MLS Players Salary Guide | MLS Players Association

Every year the MLS Player Association releases our annual salary guide, listing each player in the MLS along with their current salary. We see this transparency as an extremely important part of our mission to support and protect the player community.
mlsplayers.org
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It's £7k more than an unemployed footballer is paid
 
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duffer

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #345
Perennial Lurker said:
Or we haven't got a pot to piss in and he's the cheapest available option?
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In fairness, both things can be true. FL might see him as an option for the squad, DK sees him as cheap.
 
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ptr

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #346
GIMOC said:
pato wants 7k a week

Cov refusing to offer that

he was on 15k in America
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Frank when he realises we can’t even afford Paterson….and that Doug’s ‘promotion clauses’ don’t work when you’re in the bottom half.
 

Perryccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #347
Honestly GIMOC goes from one embarrassing post to another. When will he learn.
 
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skyblue025

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #348
rob9872 said:
It's not that £7k is breaking the bank, but we have a squad value and rules to follow. If that £7k means we can't afford to pay our potential incoming midfielder eg £18k then it's more breaking the structure that enables us to improve, when arguably he's a risk.
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The funny thing is you think we are signing someone else this window.
 
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Deity

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #349
I don’t have any inside info on this but I would be amazed if Pato even started training with us with a view to earning a contract unless his package requirements were seen to be broadly ok.

£7k vs £15k is not broadly aligned.

Therefore either GIMOC is wrong or he didn’t join us initially to earn a contract but just to get fit and our view on him changed during those training sessions.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #350
Deity said:
I don’t have any inside info on this but I would be amazed if Pato even started training with us with a view to earning a contract unless his package requirements were seen to be broadly ok.
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Yeah you would think there would be basic conversations to start with.
 
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