Qatar World Cup 2022 (20 Viewers)
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Yeah you can’t be banning people or deleting posts just because they’re throwing around homophobic abuse, that’s crazy talk.
I think @Nick is too busy making sure the Coventry Ladies thread gets closed on the main forum, that could have really got out of hand.
I reported them hours ago
But frankly it’s basically up to him about what kind of place he runs.
bawtryneal
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In my opinion the thread should be deleted not just moved to a different location
Homophobic behaviour should not be accepted full stop and just moved to a lower traffic area.
Homophobic behaviour should not be accepted full stop and just moved to a lower traffic area.
Well clearly someone has time to ignore the reports, move this thread to a different forum, and close other threads elsewhere. As I say - it’s their choice what kind of place they want to run. Maybe they want to set up a dedicated sub-forum for homophobia.
Alternatively you can just ban the twat, delete the posts and assure people that there’s no place for shit like that on here, but if @Nick would rather run a viewing gallery for homophobic abuse then that’s his prerogative.
Liquid Gold
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I reported too. If that isn't worth an instant ban then this place needs to die too
clint van damme
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Nor coherent sentences by the look of it.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I understand why a lot of people are angry, as I was reading that shite, and the poster couldn't complain at all if they were banned.
But this is a situation whereby deleting this thread entirely, despite how abhorrent it is, could be counterproductive. The subject of free speech often crops up and this I think highlights my opinion well.
The person clearly has a mindset that hasn't been acceptable for at least a generation, but that shows. Look at the reaction to it - it's been loudly condemned by all and surely that is a far better reaction than banning, where individuals often double down on their views claiming they're being 'silenced' (as is the playbook for pretty much every far right view). Whereas leaving it to be seen will just lead to all round condemnation and ridicule which will be ar worse for them. Plus it means we know what their views are rather than it being hidden. These views are far worse kept in the shadows than in the light where they can be seen and challenged.
Individuals can choose to put the poster on ignore, give them a poo emoji or tear their opinions to pieces with reasoning. But the worse thing to do IMO is just to delete it.
But this is a situation whereby deleting this thread entirely, despite how abhorrent it is, could be counterproductive. The subject of free speech often crops up and this I think highlights my opinion well.
The person clearly has a mindset that hasn't been acceptable for at least a generation, but that shows. Look at the reaction to it - it's been loudly condemned by all and surely that is a far better reaction than banning, where individuals often double down on their views claiming they're being 'silenced' (as is the playbook for pretty much every far right view). Whereas leaving it to be seen will just lead to all round condemnation and ridicule which will be ar worse for them. Plus it means we know what their views are rather than it being hidden. These views are far worse kept in the shadows than in the light where they can be seen and challenged.
Individuals can choose to put the poster on ignore, give them a poo emoji or tear their opinions to pieces with reasoning. But the worse thing to do IMO is just to delete it.
Yes, we’ll put Sky Blue Dreamer. When an idiot is busy making a fool of himself don’t interrupt.
But on the politics of free speech, Qatar, the World Cup and its legitimacy. It is all related. Some will just say ‘I can’t be arsed to think about that, I just want to enjoy the footy’ The Abramovich era is a consequence of this myopia, not just among fans but also government and the Premier League. That, in turn, has brought about Ukraine and affects us all. Regrettably, Ignorance and wishful thinking is no longer an option….
But on the politics of free speech, Qatar, the World Cup and its legitimacy. It is all related. Some will just say ‘I can’t be arsed to think about that, I just want to enjoy the footy’ The Abramovich era is a consequence of this myopia, not just among fans but also government and the Premier League. That, in turn, has brought about Ukraine and affects us all. Regrettably, Ignorance and wishful thinking is no longer an option….
rob9872
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In context I somewhat agree, but change homophobia to racism and do you make the same post?
Neither have any place here and should be treated the same with zero tolerance.
Otis
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So you are advocating a point and laugh policy.
I find it all a bit weird, because I thought dinosaurs were extinct.
Grendel
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I guess if a number of people are objecting and find it offensive then thread deletion (bit hard I’d have thought just to delete posts) is the only way to go
The Coventrian / Valiant and The Lurker I assume were but they had to go full KKK mind before it happened
Otis
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And if someone had said "n*ggers" instead of "Nancy boys," they would definitely have been banned.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I do. Because I'd rather know who the racists are and see them being challenged and humiliated than hidden away in some echo chamber where their messed up take is validated until their thoughts are so warped they do something serious.
Another example is misogny. Do you think it's good to have a load of Incel fuckwits hidden away on the dark web, or would it be better to know who they are to keep an eye on them?
I agree that they have no place but zero tolerance doesn't necessarily mean banning it. I'd say the reaction to the poster on here has been zero tolerance from the replies, and IMO it's far more effective because that's lots of different people, whereas deleting and banning just needs one person with admin rights.
clint van damme
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rob9872
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Grendel
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Oh well that's ok then ....
Mods - how the fk is this bellend still able to post?
It is pretty random when the likes of Italia were banned for just talking inoffensive gibberish
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Deleted member 9744
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Hope you're feeling better Mark and thanks for doing this. His opinions were unacceptable.
bawtryneal
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So it's acceptable to be homophobic on the "other topics thread" but not on the "CCFC General chat thread"
David O'Day
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He's not
mr_monkey
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VM-hoteller nekter homofile adgang
Til tross for Fifa-presidentens løfter om at alle er velkomne til Qatar, nekter flere VM-hoteller homofile å bestille rom. Over en fjerdedel av hotellene anbefaler at man ikke viser sin legning.
www.nrk.no
Absolutely disgusting
chiefdave
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it is but what did they think was going to happen staging it in Qatar. And people will still ignore things like this and happily attend.VM-hoteller nekter homofile adgang
Til tross for Fifa-presidentens løfter om at alle er velkomne til Qatar, nekter flere VM-hoteller homofile å bestille rom. Over en fjerdedel av hotellene anbefaler at man ikke viser sin legning.
Absolutely disgusting
Otis
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Didn't first time for me, but second time it allowed me to select English at the foot of the page.
no_loyalty
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It doesn’t look like Scotland will be there, they are currently 2-0 down at home to Ukraine.