Match Thread Queens Park Rangers - Coventry City Match Thread - Tuesday 22nd Oct (2 Viewers)

[shmmeee]

well apparently Robins has done it before, so that’s the reasoning why he’ll do it again….

nothing more than that

You think all we need to do is replace Robins.

I think the club is rotten to the core.

We are not alike.

 

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[shmmeee]

That King has wrecked is the sentence.
Less diversion more specifics fella.

Coventry City Football Club

 

[Bugsy]

You think all we need to do is replace Robins.

I think the club is rotten to the core.

We are not alike.

Bit drastic

 

[clint van damme]

I agree, it’s like everyone wants to blame anything other than Robins himself. Yes the man’s a club hero and always will be, there’s no taking that away from him, but when we’re underperforming so badly compared to what we were sold at the start of the season then a large portion of the blame has to lie with the manager.

I think Austin’s position should be looked at tbh, the recruitment hasn’t been dog shit awful but it does feel like we’ve squandered around 30-50% of the £35 mil windfall we got from Hamer and Gyokeres, something which is incredibly rare in the Championship for the sale of just two players.

Can you name one poster who's said robins is blameless.

 

[Offhegoes]

Simms despite his miss, at least looked dangerous when he came on, unlike Thomas-Asante.

 

[Otis]

You think all we need to do is replace Robins.

I think the club is rotten to the core.

We are not alike.

Yeah, Robins isn't blameless by a long chalk, but it's so much deeper than that isn't it.

 

[Otis]

Can you name one poster who's said robins is blameless.

No-one is the answer you are looking for I think.

Robins has got a lot wrong, but there are more problems coming from above I think.

 

[Matt smith]

Yeah, Robins isn't blameless by a long chalk, but it's so much deeper than that isn't it.

Do agree with this, as much as I want a change in manager at this point, I do agree on apportioning more of the blame and the owners door

 

[shmmeee]

Bit drastic

Honestly if given free reign Robins is the last employee I’d fire. He’s the only one playing or not with some level of achievement behind him. For a start I’d fire the entire coaching fitness and scouting staff and completely overhaul the squad.

 

[Bugsy]

Honestly if given free reign Robins is the last employee I’d fire. He’s the only one playing or not with some level of achievement behind him. For a start I’d fire the entire coaching fitness and scouting by staff and completely overhaul the squad.

I totally agree with that. But saying the club is rotten to the core is bit ott.

 

[shmmeee]

I totally agree with that. But saying the club is rotten to the core is bit ott.

Fans are OK I guess but once you’ve taken out the owner the staff and the players what’s left lol?

Twitter admin is good

 

[Sick Boy]

Honestly if given free rein Robins is the last employee I’d fire. He’s the only one playing or not with some level of achievement behind him. For a start I’d fire the entire coaching fitness and scouting staff and completely overhaul the squad.

I don’t think the squad needs a complete overhaul we need a few experienced signings though. We also need to accept that there are a couple of players that we’ve wasted money on.

 

[TomRad85]

Honestly if given free reign Robins is the last employee I’d fire. He’s the only one playing or not with some level of achievement behind him. For a start I’d fire the entire coaching fitness and scouting staff and completely overhaul the squad.

You reckon all those people came in against Robins' will and he's working with a gun to his head? Given Doug knows little about football i'd suggest Robins had a fair bit of input.

 

[TomRad85]

I don’t think the squad needs a complete overhaul we need a few experienced signings though. We also need to accept that there are a couple of players that we’ve wasted money on.

Its looking very much like we should have cashed in on Simms in the summer. Really hoping someone can bring it out of him but 50/50 on that right now.

 

[shmmeee]

I don’t think the squad needs a complete overhaul we need a few experienced signings though. We also need to accept that there are a couple of players that we’ve wasted money on.

It needs experience. It needs better up front. Better in defence. Better in midfield. Possibly better in goal. It’s hard to tell I guess with players this bereft of confidence, but given a blank sheet I’m not sure I’d sign any of this squad bar maybe MvE and Wright and the latter’s attitude is very questionable.

 

[Otis]

I don’t think the squad needs a complete overhaul we need a few experienced signings though. We also need to accept that there are a couple of players that we’ve wasted money on.

Yup. A couple of experienced heads in there and we would be a different team entirely.

Hoping King will see sense in January.

 

[shmmeee]

You reckon all those people came in against Robins' will and he's working with a gun to his head? Given Doug knows little about football i'd suggest Robins had a fair bit of input.

Maybe. But what’s changed is King and culture comes from the top.

 

[2024/25 League 1 Champs?]

You think all we need to do is replace Robins.

I think the club is rotten to the core.

We are not alike.

I wouldn’t argue with you on that one bit - and as I’ve already said I’m on the fence regarding Robins as I recognise both sides of the argument, but for me there has to be more to the argument to keep him than sentiment or some blind faith that he’ll turn it round, it needs to be based on something either way

there are issues within the team and between players, and those need to be managed or dealt with, the coaching and back room set up needs serious questions asking of it, and the owner needs a long hard look in the mirror…and some of our ‘fans’ could also do with a reality check

Something needs to change though, and it needs to be a big one too, and soon else we’ll be too deep in trouble to make a difference

 

[Bugsy]

Fans are OK I guess but once you’ve taken out the owner the staff and the players what’s left lol?

Twitter admin is good

Mistakes have been made granted, but still think the owner is good with decent intentions, aswell as the playing staff like sick boy said few experience heads will help this squad, but the coaching staff definitely needs looking at.

 

[shmmeee]

I wouldn’t argue with you on that one bit - and as I’ve already said I’m on the fence regarding Robins as I recognise both sides of the argument, but for me there has to be more to the argument to keep him than sentiment or some blind faith that he’ll turn it round, it needs to be based on something either way

there are issues within the team and between players, and those need to be managed or dealt with, the coaching and back room set up needs serious questions asking of it, and the owner needs a long hard look in the mirror…and some of our ‘fans’ could also do with a reality check

Something needs to change though, and it needs to be a big one too, and soon else we’ll be too deep in trouble to make a difference

As I said in a previous post, Robins is the only one with any kind of record and it’s a great record. If you’re changing all the stuff around him you may as well see if he can get that record back. If you’re not then I’m not sure it matters who is manager.

 

[TomRad85]

Maybe. But what’s changed is King and culture comes from the top.

Bring back Joy and Tim. At least we wouldn't have pissed away £45 million as we'd have only got about £1.5 million back.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

You think all we need to do is replace Robins.

I think the club is rotten to the core.

We are not alike.

I agree- people are going around making accusations that anyone arguing Robins should stay are saying he’s blameless and that the claim is he’ll ’flick a switch’ (not actually being said by anyone), but on the Robins Out side they seem to think that changing the manager will indeed ‘flick a switch’, it’s stupid talk. There are multiple problems at play that changing the manager won’t fix.

 

[shmmeee]

Bring back Joy and Tim. At least we wouldn't have pissed away £45 million as we'd have only got about £1.5 million back.

Not sure £20m counts for much when you spend it on League One “talent” and Ellis Simms.

 

[clint van damme]

Bring back Joy and Tim. At least we wouldn't have pissed away £45 million as we'd have only got about £1.5 million back.

Using that childish logic if you're calling for Robins to go you must want Slade back.

 

[Boicey]

I've put it in several posts, he's changed the dynamic of the squad, he's removed all experience, he's removed the assistant managers position, he hasn't utilised loans, and the effect is glaringly obvious.

These are all things Robins has utilised in the past.
If you think removing them is right can you explain why and what are the benefits of doing so?

I don't believe Robins had no say on the assistant manager position.
I agree on experienced player, although maybe easier said than done.
We've bought in a lot of players for a lot of money, and I'm sure Robins was involved in agreeing all of them. Loans shouldn't have been necessary.
The on the field failure creates all sorts of new pressure and wants that shouldn't have been necessary.

 

[TomRad85]

Using that childish logic if you're calling for Robins to go you must want Slade back.

Not really.

 

[Sick Boy]

It needs experience. It needs better up front. Better in defence. Better in midfield. Possibly better in goal. It’s hard to tell I guess with players this bereft of confidence, but given a blank sheet I’m not sure I’d sign any of this squad bar maybe MvE and Wright and the latter’s attitude is very questionable.

It also needs King to hire someone to run the club on his behalf.

 

[shmmeee]

It also needs King to hire someone to run the club on his behalf.

He just needs to end his involvement with the playing side at setting a budget, hiring and firing a manager, and eating prawn sandwiches in corporate like any normal owner.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

Can't believe how poor QPR were last night, what an opportunity missed. They were there for the taking!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Rather than 4 year contracts to all signings I’d suggest we go for 3 and a year’s option in our favour. So many players on long term deals with no incentive to prove themselves.

 

[Otis]

As I said in a previous post, Robins is the only one with any kind of record and it’s a great record. If you’re changing all the stuff around him you may as well see if he can get that record back. If you’re not then I’m not sure it matters who is manager.

Yeah. Well said.

With the policy we have in place now, I can't see a new manager would make any difference, past a honeymoon period.

And as I have said before, it's fine to say Robins gets his team selection wrong and doesn't bring the right subs on, and not at the right time etc, but that has always been said of him. Even when we have done well. You only need to look back at the match threads to see the fans complaining then, even when we have won.

He's not perfect obviously. Otherwise he wouldn't be here.

The thing that seems lacking for me is that of not enough experience in the team. And therefore heads drop much more quickly.

 

[2024/25 League 1 Champs?]

I agree- people are going around making accusations that anyone arguing Robins should stay are saying he’s blameless and that the claim is he’ll ’flick a switch’ (not actually being said by anyone), but on the Robins Out side they seem to think that changing the manager will indeed ‘flick a switch’, it’s stupid talk. There are multiple problems at play that changing the manager won’t fix.

you really do change the narrative, and the FACTS to suit your agenda don’t you

 

[Otis]

Can't believe how poor QPR were last night, what an opportunity missed. They were there for the taking!

And we would have if it hadn't had been for the awful mistake by Dovin

 

[Ccfc_Addy]

After the Sheffield Wednesday game, I said "we're playing like a team that doesn't want to win".

After Saturday and last night, it's gotten even worse; watching Coventry City is like watching 11 terrified, bewildered men teleported into this world from numerous dimensions in the universe who have only been given a brief primer on the concept of "football" and told that the fate of the multiverse relies on them.

I mean, on the most basic, fundamental level; what is it that this team is trying to do? What is the plan? What is the intent? 100% of the people on the pitch look bewildered, confused, stressed or frustrated. Why are we so incapable of adapting to the situation? It's the same story every time: The opposition changes shape, makes a substitution or just does something different and we flap around hoping that doing the same thing that already wasn't working will somehow produce results, like chimpanzees flinging their shit at a tidal wave. When a change does finally happen, it's a fucking useless like-for-like substitution with no kind of dynamic adaptation to make use of the sub's unique attributes and skills. Do the substitutes get any kind of instructions at all or do they just get thrown on the pitch and told to do the best approximation of what the man they're replacing was doing?

Robins is starting to remind me of every process-rich but people-poor manager I've ever known when they're confronted with a situation they can't handle: Just stare at it and hope the problem resolves itself. I cannot put into words how disheartening it is to see how badly everything is going, to know that something is horribly wrong at the very heart and soul of this organisation, and to know that not one person behind the scenes has any clue how to correct it or any kind of plan to make things better.

Maybe it's possible that if we stick to a system and figure out a regular starting XI that things will slowly start to turn around, but barring that immense counter-attack that led to our goal (invalidated by the fact that we didn't build on it and seemed averse to trying it again) I am not seeing many reasons to be optimistic. Big changes needed, and fast.

 

[Macca]

Luton are also all over the place in fairness , so what to expect who knows .

All I know is if you're robins in this place isn't going to be of interest for you , if you are robins out , the circle jerk is in full swing

I think there is a place for both views. I change mine every hour