Otis
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Atari? Is it all just a game to you?
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Saddlebrains
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This is why you have to give players time
Is Kitching still pointless and Thomas w*nk?
Fair play. Usually id think of some witty retort but i like you Otis
The answer to your question is no, Thomas and Kitching as a pairing in a 2 look miles better
Martin180
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Fair play to you as well mate , you always concede when you've made a bad callFair play. Usually id think of some witty retort but i like you Otis
The answer to your question is no, Thomas and Kitching as a pairing in a 2 look miles better
Otis
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Yup. We should make him an MP. Would make politics so much more interesting
Cally Fedora
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I think I’m on the spectrum.
Otis
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You have to give players time. Been shown time and time again and you only have to throw up the examples of Adebola, Turner and McGoldrick to prove why.
Some players are immediate successes. Some take time. Some fail
We need to give them time to fail though.
NorthernWisdom
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It's still too early to judge them successes, of course!
Grendel
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The defence look better as we’ve altered the system - the signings made were to accommodate high wing backs and 3 centre halves. It didn’t work and they looked poor in the intended system
mmttww
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Martin180
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The clutching at straws is already getting very tedious .
Grendel
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We’ve won two games - and mainly as we’ve bought back a left back robins tried to shove out the door last season.
Martin180
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Didn't think he was particularly outstanding last night . His delivery from set pieces was good . I think it is more having a settled team and formation
Evo1883
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In fairness the system change has got us 3 clean sheets and 7 points
Alkhen
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Just a troll at this point, add posts like this to the clear fact they have a personal axe to grind with the owner you can disregard anything they post
This is why you have to give players time
Is Kitching still pointless and Thomas w*nk?
NorthernWisdom
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People are always saying Robins should have alternatives anyway. Wouldn't be surprised to see five at the back make a return at some stage, but he has always shown himself pragmatic enough to change if it's needed. He did it in League One after all.
TomRad85
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God i hope it doesn't return, not with this group of players anyway.
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Evo1883
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I personally think Robins and viveash will try and master this new system now , 4atb has so many different options too
SkyBlueMatt
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People are still basing it on when we were all at sea. If Kitching, Thomas and Collins can continue to be solid, make the positions their own. There is scope to be more dynamic.
It's almost as if our season starts now, it's taken longer than we all expected but I think we now have a starting point. For example if the defence is settling and understand what is expected of them / their role. It will make it easier for other players to do what they are good at and generate confidence to the rest.
I'm certain we'll see 532 again in the not to distant future. For right now, stick to the formation that is working and nail that first.
Saddlebrains
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Have too i feel, if im wrong im wrong id rather own it than look a prick trying to defend it
The Philosopher
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Unsure where the “Hamer box to box” replacement fits in in this 4 back set up.
Eccles and Sheaf are doing fine sitting deep but to be fair they are getting in the box regularly.
Sims for Godden could work and I think a fitter O’Hare on the left of attack in place of Wright would give us more energy in the press and pull defences about more.
Haji scored - kudos to him - and can cause problems but I think O’Hare would bring more to the team in terms of being able to trap a ball and give and go.
Tats on the right is working.
Rotate Sims and Wright in the centre.
We have options at least.
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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The creative player slots in where Eccles is all day of the week. Eccles is similar to sheaf we don’t need two of him
When playing 4 at the back we do.
The third midfielder/AM is the creative one.
ceetee
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Do you think O'Hare would score as many goals as Wright?
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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There's a few things that stand out for me.
When you look at the players we have signed, on paper the results we have been getting don't really match up. Yes, we lost a good number of goals out of the team, but the players we have signed should be better than the sum of the parts we lost. That's why for me at least, other than the midfield, the question marks weren't really with the signings. More with the management and how we were playing. If you want to coin a popular phrase 'time to gel' also being a relevant variable.
A 433 always seemed to make more sense, and I don't think it has been an exaggeration to say it has been a bit of a revelation. We actually look dangerous at times, but not only that, the back line seems much more solid and able to stand up for itself. I don't think we played that well yesterday, but keep a clean sheet and all you need to do is grab a dirty goal, which we did.
I hope this is the corner turned now, and long may this positive trajectory continue.
The Philosopher
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O’Hare would create more chances for others I think and it’s whether playing him means better results on the whole.
My personal presumption (and that’s all it is) is that O’Hare roaming wide left, Tats on Right and Sims in the middle is a better proposition.
SlowerThanPlatt
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He’s not even impacting the game from off the bench since coming back, don’t know how we’d possibly be better off if he started.
skybluecam
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O’Hare didn’t look good at all on the wing when he came on last night, positionally confused and misplayed/timed multiple passes.
More training needed if he’s going to play there I think. He may be better challenging Allen for the more adventurous position in the midfield 3.
Sometimes it’s a 4-3-3 with a flat three in midfield and sometimes it’s a 4-2-3-1 with Allen clearly playing as a 10. Seems to vary depending on the opposition and match situation.
So yeah O’Hare can play off the left in the 4-3-3 or, ideally, the 10 in a 4-2-3-1.
The Philosopher
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Maybe, but I’d like to see him being able to jink in and roam rather than an all out wide man.
With Sheaf and Eccles sitting, the Full backs can get forward like they have of late. O’Hare cutting in and roaming is what I’m thinking.
Anyway, I’m not MR - I just like the idea of a fully fit O’Hare menacing the opposition and although Haji has his good points it’s still fresh in my mind how we picked up last season when O’Hare came in.
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SBAndy
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Calista
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It would help if you didn't give any of our players vile abuse in the first place though. Fair enough to make constructive criticism and then eat humble pie. But as a supporter, calling one of our players a useless c**t just isn't right.
(It's not just you btw)
