Ricoh Arena Has New Tennants!! (3 Viewers)

[The Gentleman]

Lets get something crystal clear, I wouldn't want to be involved with ACL, Sisu, CCC or anyone else in this sorry mess.

Secondly whereas it might benefit these kids and everything is great and I respect them for making the most out of a bad situation, however do you think this Academy is going to really bring in the cash for ACL? Sorry I don't see it..

So you're not going to answer the questions i asked you then?

 

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[RoboCCFC90]

Can I just ask, why either of you think ACL (a private ltd company), would effectively pay an academy to use their facilities?

I never said they would however I can't see much profit in it for ACL whether it's for a Rich club or not..


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[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

People on here are asking who is paying the match day costs I thought there weren't any thats what I was led to believe by the same people that are asking now:thinking about:Surely they weren't telling porkys were they? Another thing why are they bothered about what happens to this "ugly pile of concrete in Holbrooks"?
Anyway got to buy a red shirt now to compliment the dark blue one I'm getting already enrolled for hunting horn lessons this is going to be great :claping hands:

 

[Godiva]

Seriously? How much are they charging this non-league team in order to make a profit? Either the team are very well off and can afford the charges or ACL are selling themselves short. I fully expect them to try and install a new franchise, but really this is laughable. They could have approached Sphinx and at least be guaranteed some local support.

I wonder if this is part of the golden future Lucas had in mind.

TBF I feel this thread is blowing this totally out of proportion! It's clearly not a strategic move from ACL and whether they make or lose a few pounds is totally irrelevant.

 

[bigfatronssba]

I never said they would however I can't see much profit in it for ACL whether it's for a Rich club or not..


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So you agree that ACL will make out of it?

No one on this thread has claimed this to be a massive coup for Acl, just a small steady income to supplement their other activities.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

So you're not going to answer the questions i asked you then?

I have never run my own business so I couldn't say.

Of course they shouldn't wait around but is this really the best business deal financially?

Doesn't matter if they're rich or not what baring does that have??


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[bigfatronssba]

TBF I feel this thread is blowing this totally out of proportion! It's clearly not a strategic move from ACL and whether they make or lose a few pounds is totally irrelevant.

For once I agree with you!

If we were still at the Ricoh, and this academy was using the stadium on a weeknight or something, I doubt it would have even been mentioned.

 

[The Gentleman]

Seriously? How much are they charging this non-league team in order to make a profit? Either the team are very well off and can afford the charges or ACL are selling themselves short. I fully expect them to try and install a new franchise, but really this is laughable. They could have approached Sphinx and at least be guaranteed some local support.

I wonder if this is part of the golden future Lucas had in mind.

You talk like ACL have been approaching people like they should have approached Sphinx, how do you know that this other team never came knocking on ACL's door (you don't), you're asking questions then call it laughable when you do not even have an inkling to the answers, just more guess work on your part. ACL have to start somewhere don't they in moving on, maybe now we will see some plans from Sisu/Otium for the new stadium as they have been moving on for nearly a year and to date have shown us one cartoon image and that someone from somewhere asked something about grass but didn't follow it up for some reason.

 

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

Of course they shouldn't wait around but is this really the best business deal financially?

It might be a very shrewd move with in the context of the Arena's wider use - under the scrutiny of the Judicial Review?!? As such, it could be a good deal if it helps sanctify the £14m loan....

 

[will am i]

As far as i remember Coventry City can use the Ricoh but just dont want to. Cant have the freehold for whatever price they want it for though. Coventry City have moved on and are building a new stadium which is why some people attend forums about how the stadium should look. So why is anyone getting upset about some other team using the Ricoh.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

So you agree that ACL will make out of it?

No one on this thread has claimed this to be a massive coup for Acl, just a small steady income to supplement their other activities.

Well they're obviously going to be charging them something as you get nothing for free but I doubt it will be anything massive, maybe just supplement the costs of maintenance..


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[The Gentleman]

I have never run my own business so I couldn't say.

Of course they shouldn't wait around but is this really the best business deal financially?

Doesn't matter if they're rich or not what baring does that have??


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Well you seem to have an answer for everything else so naturally I would have thought that easy questions like I asked should be a doddle. The 'BEARING' it has is that they can pay for what they are using rather than being gifted it. Finally, if you have never ran your own business, how would you know whether this was the 'best business deal financially' or not?

 

[duffer]

Seriously? How much are they charging this non-league team in order to make a profit? Either the team are very well off and can afford the charges or ACL are selling themselves short. I fully expect them to try and install a new franchise, but really this is laughable. They could have approached Sphinx and at least be guaranteed some local support.

I wonder if this is part of the golden future Lucas had in mind.

Maybe they're still hopeful that the club will see sense, and this is just one of a few things we'll see along these lines (like the U21 game).

It looks to me as though they're just tickling things along at the moment, with regard to the pitch usage side, but at some point I'd guess they'll look to do more.

I'd have thought anyone who wants CCFC back at the Ricoh would rather they didn't take a permanent or long-term tenant that might clash with that purpose, but I guess you can't keep everyone happy!

And I think that anyone who has run a small business will tell you that even a few quid is better than nothing.

 

[Godiva]

It might be a very shrewd move with in the context of the Arena's wider use - under the scrutiny of the Judicial Review?!? As such, it could be a good deal if it helps sanctify the £14m loan....

Because the acadamy is vital to the coventry commuity?

FootballCV Academy
Steel Park
Rockingham Road
Corby
Northamptonshire
NN17 2AE

 

[chiefdave]

Seriously? How much are they charging this non-league team in order to make a profit? Either the team are very well off and can afford the charges or ACL are selling themselves short.

It costs £20K a season to join FootballCV so you would imagine they can afford to pay a hire fee for the Ricoh. Nothing gives any indication that ACL are losing money on this other than a few of the regulars on here trying to imply it's the case.

 

[The Gentleman]

It costs £20K a season to join FootballCV so you would imagine they can afford to pay a hire fee for the Ricoh. Nothing gives any indication that ACL are losing money on this other than a few of the regulars on here trying to imply it's the case.

No but if they say it, it must be so!

 

[duffer]

Apparently it costs £20K a season to join FootballCV so you would imagine they can afford to pay a hire fee for the Ricoh. Nothing gives any indication that ACL are losing money on this other than a few of the regulars on here trying to imply it's the case.

Blimey £20k - do you think they could turn me into at least a League 1 striker?

It's a lot of money for me to find, and I'm knocking on a bit, but I don't need to improve much 'cos I hear that Wolves will buy any old tat.

 

[M&B Stand]

Sorry, but this is just a joke.

Fine to let a team play at the Ricoh, but if someone is getting to play on it for next to nothing then surely a local Coventry team such as Coventry United or Sphinx would be the way to go. Why some youth team from a completely different county?

It's daft at best and at worst, very embarrassing.

Doesn't this just state the obvious that the Ricoh is available for next to nothing and if that's the case, Coventry City should be playing there.

And some people are cheering the decision and don't wanna know the costs etc. It's laughable, Coventry City fans get the club they deserve.

 

[Grendel]

It might be a very shrewd move with in the context of the Arena's wider use - under the scrutiny of the Judicial Review?!? As such, it could be a good deal if it helps sanctify the £14m loan....

Back to clutching at straws again - I hope my mate fish is getting royalties for this.

 

[Noggin]

I have never run my own business so I couldn't say.

Of course they shouldn't wait around but is this really the best business deal financially?

Doesn't matter if they're rich or not what baring does that have??


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If this were a saturday afternoon team you'd have a point, but it quite possibly is the best deal they can get for a two o clock game on a weekday.

 

[bigfatronssba]

And some people are cheering the decision and don't wanna know the costs etc. It's laughable, Coventry City fans get the club they deserve.

Can you explain how this has any impact "Coventry" City Football Club please?

 

[chiefdave]

And some people are cheering the decision and don't wanna know the costs etc. It's laughable, Coventry City fans get the club they deserve.

What's it got to do with Coventry City? We don't play there so it has zero impact on the team or our fans.

If we get to a point where SISU come to their senses and want to move back only to be told we can't as this lot are now using the ground then its time to complain.

Should we start a thread on here every time a team hires a pitch down the memorial park and speculate how much they are paying and if a profit is being made?

 

[magic82ball]

Who is paying for floodlights, pitch maintenance, heating, initial preparation to get it ready, health and safety checks, hot water, cleaning the changing rooms? The tooth fairy?

This is a fucking joke, first ACL, then the charity and now the tooth fairy wants paying. Seems SISU's debts spread far and wide.

 

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

Back to clutching at straws again - I hope my mate fish is getting royalties for this.

Why is it clutching at straws? I gave an example as to how it could be useful, and included question marks to show it was one idea. As far as I'm aware, if it can be demonstrated it's an arena location used by a number of teams, that would help ACL's position within the JR, wouldn't it? Or don't you know. Be honest, we're all friends around here you know....

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Well you seem to have an answer for everything else so naturally I would have thought that easy questions like I asked should be a doddle. The 'BEARING' it has is that they can pay for what they are using rather than being gifted it. Finally, if you have never ran your own business, how would you know whether this was the 'best business deal financially' or not?

Damn phone didn't mean to like this post..

So I spelt a word wrong sue me!

Well I would have to be in ACL's shoes to know if this deal was the best financially for them or not.

Answer for everything? Nah not me but I am working on it..


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[torchomatic]

Well, if they are moving on then they should approach people, shouldn't they?

You talk like ACL have been approaching people like they should have approached Sphinx, how do you know that this other team never came knocking on ACL's door (you don't), you're asking questions then call it laughable when you do not even have an inkling to the answers, just more guess work on your part. ACL have to start somewhere don't they in moving on, maybe now we will see some plans from Sisu/Otium for the new stadium as they have been moving on for nearly a year and to date have shown us one cartoon image and that someone from somewhere asked something about grass but didn't follow it up for some reason.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Because the acadamy is vital to the coventry commuity?

FootballCV Academy
Steel Park
Rockingham Road
Corby
Northamptonshire
NN17 2AE

Irony overload. Why don't they play at Sixfields?

 

[James Smith]

Your joking right? I can imagine fisher, seppella and waggot reading this and saying "this is moving on right" and laughing. It's further evidence the place is a white elephant - ultimately it could become a huge burden to the Coventry taxpayer if this is allowed to carry on. I worry for the citizens of the city, I really do.

Where did I put "moving on" in my post? The pitch is obviously being maintained by ACL at the moment so I would assume they have budgeted for that already. We don't know how much this bunch are paying nor do we know the financial state of ACL. You state that the Coventry Taxpayer is funding this which suggests you have some knowledge of the deal- do you want to share that with the rest of us? You previously stated that if ACL continued to make the loan repayments for the term of the loan then the council are making a minor profit off of it. How does that statement square with your claim on this thread? Will you ever offer your opinion of the shop analogy put forward by Mr Labovitch, the one my boss commented on which you dismissed.

Yes it's annoying that it isn't a team from Coventry playing there, especially us.

 

[fernandopartridge]

It costs £20K a season to join FootballCV so you would imagine they can afford to pay a hire fee for the Ricoh. Nothing gives any indication that ACL are losing money on this other than a few of the regulars on here trying to imply it's the case.

Of course not. They've always earnt their crust from the resident football team.

 

[fernandopartridge]

It might be a very shrewd move with in the context of the Arena's wider use - under the scrutiny of the Judicial Review?!? As such, it could be a good deal if it helps sanctify the £14m loan....

Or the contrary. If they can afford to let it out to one team for next to nothing, why not another?

 

[Grendel]

Where did I put "moving on" in my post? The pitch is obviously being maintained by ACL at the moment so I would assume they have budgeted for that already. We don't know how much this bunch are paying nor do we know the financial state of ACL. You state that the Coventry Taxpayer is funding this which suggests you have some knowledge of the deal- do you want to share that with the rest of us? You previously stated that if ACL continued to make the loan repayments for the term of the loan then the council are making a minor profit off of it. How does that statement square with your claim on this thread? Will you ever offer your opinion of the shop analogy put forward by Mr Labovitch, the one my boss commented on which you dismissed.

Yes it's annoying that it isn't a team from Coventry playing there, especially us.

Why are you interested in the shop analogy? Just as he said shop and you work in one? If an organisation wanted a property and a shopkeeper was in it you'd find a way to force him out through legal means and if you have the financial clout you would bury him in litigation until he disappeared. Satisfied?

 

[ccfcway]

Much a do about nothing

"private academy uses a pitch 8 times in a year shocker"

dont get the hype over this at all.

 

[The Gentleman]

Well, if they are moving on then they should approach people, shouldn't they?

But if we take ACL at their word (no-one has evidence to the contrary), this just backs that up by the fact that people are approaching them, or do you disagree?

 

[Grendel]

But if we take ACL at their word (no-one has evidence to the contrary), this just backs that up by the fact that people are approaching them, or do you disagree?

So do you think all pub sides whose game is off this weekend should contact them and see if they can get the game on?

Apparantly the dog and duck in Basildon booked Wembley the other week.

 

[Otis]

Much a do about nothing

"private academy uses a pitch 8 times in a year shocker"

dont get the hype over this at all.

But why isn't it someone like Cov Sphinx? Isn't the Ricoh supposed to exist for the people of Coventry? Surely if anyone should be playing there at the mo it should be a Coventry team.