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Saddlebrains

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Still no sign of her.

Last day of the specialist sonar equipment too....
 
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Proper journalism serves a very useful purpose. Don't confuse articles like this with it.
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This isn’t the thread for this discussion but journalists by and large are paid obscenely to just write articles tailored for what their audiences want to hear or on TV to just read off a prompt. They’re just there to write about events while everyone else acts and participates. The worst ones go further and sink to disgusting depths just to get a ‘scoop’. More recently they just seem to go on Twitter and copy a selection of posts to put into an article.

Nobody would miss them if they all lost their jobs to an AI tool.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
This isn’t the thread for this discussion but journalists by and large are paid obscenely to just write articles tailored for what their audiences want to hear or on TV to just read off a prompt. They’re just there to write about events while everyone else acts and participates. The worst ones go further and sink to disgusting depths just to get a ‘scoop’. More recently they just seem to go on Twitter and copy a selection of posts to put into an article.

Nobody would miss them if they all lost their jobs to an AI tool.
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Well this is just rubbish
 
Grendel

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Fair enough but you aren’t going to change my mind and even if you tried to this isn’t the right thread for it.
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Why isn’t it? Investigative journalism is a vital job and a free press essential for a democratic society and can’t just be written by an AI tool
 
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Grendel said:
Why isn’t it? Investigative journalism is a vital job and a free press essential for a democratic society and can’t just be written by an AI tool
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Because this thread is about women who’ve been killed. Happy to debate the merits of journalism elsewhere.

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Well in the age old tradition, you started it with the total uninformed nonsense
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Look across all the newspapers and channels and tell me I’m wrong.
 
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Grendel said:
Why isn’t it? Investigative journalism is a vital job and a free press essential for a democratic society and can’t just be written by an AI tool
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It's absolutely a vital job in a democracy, but isn't the point that a large portion of our press fails to challenge in the way it should and is just defending the Government and its vested interests.
 
Grendel

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It's absolutely a vital job in a democracy, but isn't the point that a large portion of our press fails to challenge in the way it should and is just defending the Government and its vested interests.
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nonsense
 
clint van damme

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Grendel said:
nonsense
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It really isn't.
Just look at the nonsense the tories are allowed to get away with when they try and explain the current state of the economy, their bullshit goes totally unchallenged.

That said, you are spot on here
Grendel said:
Why isn’t it? Investigative journalism is a vital job and a free press essential for a democratic society and can’t just be written by an AI tool
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clint van damme said:
It really isn't.
Just look at the nonsense the tories are allowed to get away with when they try and explain the current state of the economy, their bullshit goes totally unchallenged.

That said, you are spot on here
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Truly original investigative journalists who hold a light to wrongdoings are very few and far between. Look across both TV and paper media-it is for the most part people talking to their audience and writing or saying what strong AI could do.

And there are far more scumbag ‘investigative’ journalists trying to find dirt for their next piece. Let’s not forget this is the same profession that hacked a dead girl’s phone and used it to mislead her parents.
 
clint van damme

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Truly original investigative journalists who hold a light to wrongdoings are very few and far between. Look across both TV and paper media-it is for the most part people talking to their audience and writing or saying what strong AI could do.

And there are far more scumbag ‘investigative’ journalists trying to find dirt for their next piece. Let’s not forget this is the same profession that hacked a dead girl’s phone and used it to mislead her parents.
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I agree with that assessment but the points Grendel made still stand.
As I've posted on here many times I've long been a follower on the Daniel Morgan murder case, the press's part in that is scandalous, (as is the polices).

But we still need them, we just need them not to be such wankers.
 
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clint van damme said:
I agree with that assessment but the points Grendel made still stand.
As I've posted on here many times I've long been a follower on the Daniel Morgan murder case, the press's part in that is scandalous, (as is the polices).

But we still need them, we just need them not to be such wankers.
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The number of noble investigative journalists carrying out groundbreaking work is tiny. If the profession as a whole followed their example I wouldn’t make the argument I do-but just look across the board and it is mostly predictable opinion pieces, reporting on factual events, or in some cases, trying to dig dirt where it doesn’t exist or to fit a narrative. Right now the Mail is trying to dig dirt on a dead family.

You could replace 99% of them with AI and not miss them. Fiona Bruce even joked about it this week-another paid a fortune to read news prompts and weakly ‘moderate’ a current affairs show.
 
Grendel

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
The number of noble investigative journalists carrying out groundbreaking work is tiny. If the profession as a whole followed their example I wouldn’t make the argument I do-but just look across the board and it is mostly predictable opinion pieces, reporting on factual events, or in some cases, trying to dig dirt where it doesn’t exist or to fit a narrative. Right now the Mail is trying to dig dirt on a dead family.

You could replace 99% of them with AI and not miss them. Fiona Bruce even joked about it this week-another paid a fortune to read news prompts and weakly ‘moderate’ a current affairs show.
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do you genuinely believe this nonsense?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
The number of noble investigative journalists carrying out groundbreaking work is tiny. If the profession as a whole followed their example I wouldn’t make the argument I do-but just look across the board and it is mostly predictable opinion pieces, reporting on factual events, or in some cases, trying to dig dirt where it doesn’t exist or to fit a narrative. Right now the Mail is trying to dig dirt on a dead family.

You could replace 99% of them with AI and not miss them. Fiona Bruce even joked about it this week-another paid a fortune to read news prompts and weakly ‘moderate’ a current affairs show.
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While I think that many news outlets employ journalists to write a piece from a particular angle or put a particular spin on it, there's no way AI could replace proper journalism. It's just a shame there's so little of it nowadays, but that's just as much the problem of the news outlets for wanting this and by extension society for reading the sensationalist biased crap more than proper pieces, as the outlets want to sell papers/get clicks etc. and if that's what gets them that's what they provide sadly. It's giving the people want they want.

The clickbait shite could most definitely be generated by AI.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
The number of noble investigative journalists carrying out groundbreaking work is tiny. If the profession as a whole followed their example I wouldn’t make the argument I do-but just look across the board and it is mostly predictable opinion pieces, reporting on factual events, or in some cases, trying to dig dirt where it doesn’t exist or to fit a narrative. Right now the Mail is trying to dig dirt on a dead family.

You could replace 99% of them with AI and not miss them. Fiona Bruce even joked about it this week-another paid a fortune to read news prompts and weakly ‘moderate’ a current affairs show.
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Head’s totally gone here. Plenty of countries who have already done away with journalism and the free press if they piss you off that much, by the way - which one would you pick?
 
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SBT said:
Your point is naive and childish nonsense. If someone on here posted something half as ignorant as that about the teaching profession then you’d be able to hear your mewling from Brighton to Birmingham.
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You work in journalism, or at least did-am I right in thinking that?
 
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Would you be able to link me to one of your investigative masterpieces?
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I’d rather stay private tbh. What are you trying to prove? I assume you think the world would be a better place if I (and most of my colleagues) were on the dole and ChatGPT did our jobs instead?
 
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