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Wheelfass · Jul 17, 2015

stupot07 said:
We are cov, city whatever we do it's never enough......

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C'mon Stupot, that's not the case at all. "We are Cov City and we've never done enough" is the real reason. A season of success will bring back the missing thousands and the price really won't be an issue at all then.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Jul 17, 2015

dongonzalos said:
That say prices have gradually crept up since that division 4 price in 2007.

Not taken a 25% cut like they did this season.

They put a great offer on and got a 50% increase in season ticket sales. Whatever way you look at it.

It was still a valid comment, the Bradford tickets have never been above £199 in the last 7 or 8 years as far as I can see. Its took 7 or 8 years of being one of the cheapest (if not the cheapest) in the football league to achieve the sales they have this year.

Your assumption we would do the same is stupid.

Grendel · Jul 17, 2015

dongonzalos said:
That say prices have gradually crept up since that division 4 price in 2007.

Not taken a 25% cut like they did this season.

They put a great offer on and got a 50% increase in season ticket sales. Whatever way you look at it.

We took a 25% cut

rupert_bear · Jul 17, 2015

Not read all the threads but regards season ticket sales. I think taking the last two or three years into account, how the club was run, Sixfields, the Thorn era and the Pressley era, some of the worst home displays in memory selling 4700+ STs is about what i epected. The Mowbray era hasn't kicked in yet but if he/we can hit the ground running be in the top end slots, playing decent stuff especially at home fans will return, walk ups initially maybe get STs mid-season. Not sure what our regular season tickets sales have been over recent years but it has never been that high, nowhere near the Norwich levels but a winning team can make all the difference.

covcity4life · Jul 17, 2015

Nick said:
I thought we were basing everything on price? When are we playing wigan in the championship?

you know damn well i meant league one. just because you own this place dont be a class a prick.

Nick · Jul 17, 2015

covcity4life said:
you know damn well i meant league one. just because you own this place dont be a class a prick.

Course I did,! I'm a mind reader

Grendel · Jul 17, 2015

CCFC said:
It was still a valid comment, the Bradford tickets have never been above £199 in the last 7 or 8 years as far as I can see. Its took 7 or 8 years of being one of the cheapest (if not the cheapest) in the football league to achieve the sales they have this year.

Your assumption we would do the same is stupid.

The other point he is conveniently over looking is the strategy is buy a season ticket before the end of June or else.

Looking at their forum a lit have said that they will miss many games but it's still cheaper to buy a season ticket as match prices are £25.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Jul 17, 2015

There is no doubt a link between ticket sales and prices, but there is nothing to suggest, for example, that slashing ticket prices by 50% will result in a 50% increase in sales UNLESS there is with that an increase of optimism and expectation amongst supporters.

Look at Leicester City - down and out at the beginning of January but their form during the last 12 games probably put them in the top 8 of the division. Despite the fact that they finished towards the foot of the table and spent a significant period fighting relegation, their supporters must have huge optimism for next season. Consequently big clamour for season tickets.

dongonzalos · Jul 17, 2015

Some of the opinions of some of our supporters towards other supporters is little short of a disgrace.

If Tim Fisher and Joy Sepalla get to meet the likes of some of you. No wonder they come away with crazy ideas about 12k stadiums.

This 'well we are Coventry and that is the mighty Bradford' !!!!! Crap just doesn't cut it.

Give your fans optimism and a cracking offer they can't refuse you will see fans from this proud City flying through the turn styles.

This is a great city with great fans.

We can achieve the same as Bradford.

I am very confident that with the right football some well long over due success attendances we rise significantly.

Nick · Jul 17, 2015

dongonzalos said:
Some of the opinions of some of our supporters towards other supporters is little short of a disgrace.

If Tim Fisher and Joy Sepalla get to meet the likes of some of you. No wonder they come away with crazy ideas about 12k stadiums.

This 'well we are Coventry and that is the mighty Bradford' !!!!! Crap just doesn't cut it.

Give your fans optimism and a cracking offer they can't refuse you will see fans from this proud City flying through the turn styles.

This is a great city with great fans.

We can achieve the same as Bradford.

I am very confident that with the right football some well long over due success attendances we rise significantly.

Fans that are so great they only go when we are winning? How?

Surely they would all be there in the rain on a Tuesday against Burton rather than only going if there was success?

dongonzalos · Jul 17, 2015

Nick said:
Fans that are so great they only go when we are winning? How?

Surely they would all be there in the rain on a Tuesday against Burton?

Yes like every other club in the UK

chiefdave · Jul 17, 2015

dongonzalos said:
I am very confident that with the right football some well long over due success attendances we rise significantly.

I agree but haven't you just undermined your point that to sell more tickets we need to reduce the prices even further?

Nick · Jul 17, 2015

dongonzalos said:
Yes like every other club in the UK

So what makes the fans greater than any other team?

Nick · Jul 17, 2015

chiefdave said:
I agree but haven't you just undermined your point that to sell more tickets we need to reduce the prices even further?

Now it's dirt cheap and success, then it will be a free taxi from their doorstep, then a limo with a bar...

dongonzalos · Jul 17, 2015

chiefdave said:
I agree but haven't you just undermined your point that to sell more tickets we need to reduce the prices even further?

You convieniently missed the line above about giving the fans s cracking offer they can't refuse

So no I havent, it is about price and optimism and many other factors but price is the strongest of those factors. We nearly have the optimism at the moment due to TM, and the SR and RJ signings. We just need to sign a couple of strikers

chiefdave · Jul 17, 2015

dongonzalos said:
You convieniently missed the line above about giving the fans s cracking offer they can't refuse

But you've spent the whole thread suggesting that further reductions in pricing would lead to a large increase in attendance. Now you're saying we also need good football and success. I would suggest that if and when we get good football and success the fans will turn up without a price reduction.

dongonzalos · Jul 17, 2015

Nick said:
Now it's dirt cheap and success, then it will be a free taxi from their doorstep, then a limo with a bar...

I know you are desperate
But you will find quite a long time ago in the debate I agreed with you that many factors come into someone decision whether to buy a season ticket or not. However for that additional portion of people you are looking to attract on top of your hardcore. Price will be the most powerful of those factors. £149 a season would bring fans through the doors

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Jul 17, 2015

Nick said:
Fans that are so great they only go when we are winning? How?

Surely they would all be there in the rain on a Tuesday against Burton rather than only going if there was success?

That's the same for all clubs Nick, but the main difference is that the majority of other clubs have a period in the last 40 years of some success. What have we had?
What were Chelsea's crowds in the 1980's . What would they be getting if they spent the next 30 years in the bottom 8 of the Premier league and then were relegated to League 1 ? 40,000, 20,000 ? I doubt it.

Otis · Jul 17, 2015

The City's lack of any success whatsoever for so many years has been a massive factor. No-one can deny that.

I've said before many a time, we are lucky we are still getting what we are getting after years and years of abject failure.

dongonzalos · Jul 17, 2015

chiefdave said:
But you've spent the whole thread suggesting that further reductions in pricing would lead to a large increase in attendance. Now you're saying we also need good football and success. I would suggest that if and when we get good football and success the fans will turn up without a price reduction.

I have said if we have a same pricing strategy as Brsdford we will get similar results.
We nearly already have the optimism because of TM.
I would argue we haven't got the football yet.
We don't match Bradford on the optimism stakes for obvious reasons.
Hence why ours would be 6k going up to 9k
As oppose to 13k going up to 16k

dongonzalos · Jul 17, 2015

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
That's the same for all clubs Nick, but the main difference is that the majority of other clubs have a period in the last 40 years of some success. What have we had?
What were Chelsea's crowds in the 1980's . What would they be getting if they spent the next 30 years in the bottom 8 of the Premier league and then were relegated to League 1 ? 40,000, 20,000 ? I doubt it.

It is the same for every club it really annoys me. When you get these negative numpties running down their own city and fan base.

Nick · Jul 17, 2015

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
That's the same for all clubs Nick, but the main difference is that the majority of other clubs have a period in the last 40 years of some success. What have we had?
What were Chelsea's crowds in the 1980's . What would they be getting if they spent the next 30 years in the bottom 8 of the Premier league and then were relegated to League 1 ? 40,000, 20,000 ? I doubt it.

So what makes our fans greater then? Surely great fans that stick by the club through thick and thin and don't just turn up depending who we play?

Nick · Jul 17, 2015

dongonzalos said:
It is the same for every club it really annoys me. When you get these negative numpties running down their own city and fan base.

It isn't being negative, it is being realistic.

People will say the want tickets dirt cheap, then be the first to say we need to spend money on players or the club needs to invest in players.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Jul 17, 2015

Lets not forget either that Bradford City had a good cup run last season and with it a huger amount of publicity and T.V. coverage. That will surely impact on demand for tickets.

dongonzalos · Jul 17, 2015

Nick said:
It isn't being negative, it is being realistic.

People will say the want tickets dirt cheap, then be the first to say we need to spend money on players or the club needs to invest in players.

When people suggest it's different because it's Coventry City.
That is being negative.
We are no different to any other club. As rightly pointed out by others yoyr Chelsea's Sunderland's and Even Newcastles have gone through crowds dramatically lower than what they have today. When times were bad

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Jul 17, 2015

Nick said:
So what makes our fans greater then? Surely great fans that stick by the club through thick and thin and don't just turn up depending who we play?

Our fan's aren't much different to others, we need a sustained period of success or relative success and interest will increase.

Nick · Jul 17, 2015

dongonzalos said:
When people suggest it's different because it's Coventry City.
That is being negative.
We are no different to any other club. As rightly pointed out by others yoyr Chelsea's Sunderland's and Even Newcastles have gone through crowds dramatically lower than what they have today. When times were bad

You are suggesting we have great fans, but they will come when tickets are cheap and we have success? How?

Didn't the other big clubs that are in our league get decent attendances still when they were in League 1? Leicester, Man City etc

chiefdave · Jul 17, 2015

Nick said:
You are suggesting we have great fans, but they will come when tickets are cheap and we have success? How?

Didn't the other big clubs that are in our league get decent attendances still when they were in League 1? Leicester, Man City etc

I've mentioned this before but Pompey had a very comparable season to ours last years and have more expensive season tickets to us. Despite this with a smaller catchment area they are on course to increase their season ticket sales to over 11K.

It must be the big name signings like Doyle and Barton that have done it.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Jul 17, 2015

Leicester had fairly recently been in 2 league cup finals. They believed they would get promotion back at the first opportunity and they were right. It's simply about fans' optimism and expectation. They had and still have it in abundance while our fans have been ground down for year after year and it takes it's toll. Does anyone realistically think we can get promotion this year? Not many.

fernandopartridge · Jul 17, 2015

Please stop with the 40 years without success stuff. We have won a major trophy within the last 30 years. Less than 20 other teams have done the same.

dongonzalos · Jul 17, 2015

Nick said:
You are suggesting we have great fans, but they will come when tickets are cheap and we have success? How?

Didn't the other big clubs that are in our league get decent attendances still when they were in League 1? Leicester, Man City etc

Pretty sure Leicester returned as champions at first attempt in league one. So yes I woukd hazard a guess they did fair well.
Not sure about Man City?
How did they get in in league one?

dongonzalos · Jul 17, 2015

chiefdave said:
I've mentioned this before but Pompey had a very comparable season to ours last years and have more expensive season tickets to us. Despite this with a smaller catchment area they are on course to increase their season ticket sales to over 11K.

It must be the big name signings like Doyle and Barton that have done it.

Probably more to do with been owned by their fans. I point I also made at the beginning when discussing Bradford

stupot07 · Jul 17, 2015

dongonzalos said:
I have said if we have a same pricing strategy as Brsdford we will get similar results.
We nearly already have the optimism because of TM.
I would argue we haven't got the football yet.
We don't match Bradford on the optimism stakes for obvious reasons.
Hence why ours would be 6k going up to 9k
As oppose to 13k going up to 16k

So if we reduce ST's by 25% or £50 we will get 50% increase in sales? Like I said earlier mines been reduced by 30%, yet we haven't had a 50% increase.

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Alan Dugdales Moustache · Jul 17, 2015

fernandopartridge said:
Please stop with the 40 years without success stuff. We have won a major trophy within the last 30 years. Less than 20 other teams have done the same.

I that case our support is poor : forget years of struggle, relegation, SISU, Sixfields. etc. Yes, we have barely 5,000 season ticket holders and yet won the F.A. Cup in 1987. Yes, our support is awful.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Jul 17, 2015

.....but then we are in division 3.

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