Should drugs be legalised? (14 Viewers)

[Liquid Gold]

I just said i dont want it to be like saudi arabia..not asking for hands to be cut off. Not saying thag works even!

Hes right you do seem very angry

I'd advocate it for some of our 'keepers.

 

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[clint van damme]

No one is saying that. Dont be so slow

It would minimise the amount of gambling tho

No one is saying all crime can be stopped. But i would rather stop harmful acts and have ppl go oit of thetr way to get it than legalise it and let people harm Themselves whilst i pride myself on them not breaking laws to get hold it

HAHA! You kill me! Prohibition never stopped anything, it just drives it underground. Unless you live in some draconian state where the punishment far out weighs the crime.

 

[covcity4life]

HAHA! You kill me! Prohibition never stopped anything, it just drives it underground. Unless you live in some draconian state where the punishment far out weighs the crime.

Ahh so now we get to it. You are scared of a system where druggies are punished.

You should.of just said

Its cool you want to legalise drugs so that you never get punished. Just don't dress it up as impoving society.

 

[clint van damme]

Ahh so now we get to it. You are scared of a system where druggies are punished.

You should.of just said

Its cool you want to legalise drugs so that you never get punished. Just don't dress it up as impoving society.

seeking an altered state of conscientious is human nature, (and some animals too).
It should be controlled and legislated correctly.
The argument for the criminalisation of drugs would hold a lot more water if we hadn't legalised one of the most dangerous drugs ever synthesised.
I'm not scared of a system where "druggies" are punished but I'm am scared by a society with such a lack of progression as ours is turning into.

 

[Grendel]

There no such thing as liberal democracy now haha, it's almost sad. Don't feed him.

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So what's liberal democracy? Calling people baby boomer cunts? Really? Telling people they are thick and need to get a GCSE? Really? They live in Saudi so are beneath contempt? Really?

I hate to tell you this but you are the only poster on her that people have sent me PM's about saying how they are pleased I am putting you in your place - and that's being polite.

You can't debate, ariticulate your opinion or hold a position. You are a failure.

 

[covmark]

seeking an altered state of conscientious is human nature, (and some animals too).
It should be controlled and legislated correctly.
The argument for the criminalisation of drugs would hold a lot more water if we hadn't legalised one of the most dangerous drugs ever synthesised.
I'm not scared of a system where "druggies" are punished but I'm am scared by a society with such a lack of progression as ours is turning into.

This is the crux of it for me. Those that are shouting loudest against the decriminalisation of drugs, are probably the ones who are down the pub every weekend.
Grendel points to the fact terrorists are weed smokers, but there are far more crimes committed by drunks in this country than potheads.(yes I know toking is illegal).
I'd much rather spend an evening with someone who is stoned than someone who is pissed.

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[covcity4life]

This is the crux of it for me. Those that are shouting loudest against the decriminalisation of drugs, are probably the ones who are down the pub every weekend.
Grendel points to the fact terrorists are weed smokers, but there are far more crimes committed by drunks in this country than potheads.(yes I know toking is illegal).
I'd much rather spend an evening with someone who is stoned than someone who is pissed.

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I said earlier in threas i drink prob once every 6 weeks on average

Funny though you see it like thwt. I see it opposite way. Those who want it legalised need it.

 

[clint van damme]

I said earlier in threas i drink prob once every 6 weeks on average

Funny though you see it like thwt. I see it opposite way. Those who want it legalised need it.

I think weed should be legalised and I don't touch it. I don't even smoke tobacco!

 

[covmark]

I said earlier in threas i drink prob once every 6 weeks on average

Funny though you see it like thwt. I see it opposite way. Those who want it legalised need it.

Haven't smoked weed for 10 years. Just think the amount of tax raised from cannabis sales could go towards funding treatment for alcohol related illnesses on the NHS.

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[Liquid Gold]

Yeah I don't smoke anything either.

 

[covcity4life]

Haven't smoked weed for 10 years. Just think the amount of tax raised from cannabis sales could go towards funding treatment for alcohol related illnesses on the NHS.

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Or for issues relating to weed. And all the new doctors we have from weed family backgrounds will help...

 

[Nick]

Ahh so now we get to it. You are scared of a system where druggies are punished.

You should.of just said

Its cool you want to legalise drugs so that you never get punished. Just don't dress it up as impoving society.

What happens if people wanted weed for medical reasons?

 

[covcity4life]

What happens if people wanted weed for medical reasons?

Would have to.do research into that one and wether it helps or not.

If proven it does then in a perfect world you put rigiuous checks into.make sure only those that need it get it.

If that person gives it to others then if caught.both punished.

 

[King of the Lesbians]

Ok why am I doing quite well in the prediction league

Discuss

To keep it on topic, is it because you are a pot smoking terrorist?

 

[vow]

To keep it on topic, is it because you are a pot smoking terrorist?

You're way off topic.....it's because he might be a pot smoking alcoholic atheist terrorist I believe.

 

[covmark]

Or for issues relating to weed. And all the new doctors we have from weed family backgrounds will help...

What issues relating to weed?

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[vow]

He's Trolling again.

 

[vow]

possibly this thread

You associate the physical abusive scumbags with blokes that look at pictures of women on a forum, do you?

Nice wumming while it lasted, well done.

 

[Joy Division]

You are aware that as an example the pair who beheaded Lee Rigby had a history of cannabis abuse? Now tell me what would have been the response to a government that legalised the drug one day and the next this occurred?

What the actual fuck?!

 

[covcity4life]

What the actual fuck?!

i know man canabis is great and makes everyone chilled and it improves the world so much!

 

[skybluegod]

and btw i dabbled for 3 years whilst at uni. then i graduated and left it behind. anyone over 22 who is tempted by drugs is weak minded.

Anyone in general tempted by drugs is weak minded.
Without trying to be rude to you that is.

 

[skybluegod]

You could use the exact same argument for alcohol though. Also, it is very much a minority of people who end up with mental health problems.

You probably underestimate exactly how many people now smoke it, it's a lot more common than you seem to think.

The only person I've ever seen suffering from psychosis was alcohol induced.

Almost all people I know who have smoked cannabis, are more paranoid and anxious in some way.

 

[Grendel]

What the actual fuck?!

You were saying - Max Pemberton is not a Mail journalist either

Is marijuana a factor in jihadi murders? | Daily Mail Online

 

[skybluegod]

So you've never been drunk in a pub?

He's right, think you are interpreting it as the bottom of the scale of 'drunk' having only just stopped working at a pub, we know when somebody is too far gone, and it's only illegal for us to continue service when we think they are a risk to themselves or others.

 

[Sick Boy]

Almost all people I know who have smoked cannabis, are more paranoid and anxious in some way.

All of the people i know are normal functioning members of society. Even my retired 65 year old mother who smoked it until her early 30s and took LSD back in the day.

 

[skybluegod]

This is the crux of it for me. Those that are shouting loudest against the decriminalisation of drugs, are probably the ones who are down the pub every weekend.
Grendel points to the fact terrorists are weed smokers, but there are far more crimes committed by drunks in this country than potheads.(yes I know toking is illegal).
I'd much rather spend an evening with someone who is stoned than someone who is pissed.

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I don't drink at all, and I I don't want drugs decriminalised, so that was a stupid point?

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

As the more enlightened on this thread have already stated....people will ALWAYS want to get off their head.......there are tribes in the rain forests who still don't recognise borders & laws that have been taking psychoacitve drugs since the year dot.....

Current system: Addicts are already GIVEN free drugs from the state: Methadone. Its addictive in itself, has very limited success rate in treatment & makes a fortune (taken direct from the tax payer) for the multinational pharma companies & dispensing chemists etc.
These methadone addicts more often than not still commit crime.....often the very scummy crimes of petty theft, mugging & burglary etc. in order to purchase H. The police, NHS, prison service & social services are left to pick up the pieces.....at further considerable cost.

Surely a better solution is for the state to give the addicts safe heroin: This would surely result in less crime, less drug related deaths & better treatment & help for those addicted & requiring help. Saves the country a fortune & makes society considerably safer & happier.
Other "recreational" drugs such as weed could also be sold through government licensed premises to raise state funds & also ensure some kind of quality control. Again, this would dramatically reduce the funds available to organised crime gangs & free up more resources for the emergency services.

Or we could all bury our heads in the sand & pretend that prohibition & tougher prison sentences will resolve the issue......just like they NEVER have in the last 50 years of trying.

 

[Sick Boy]

Anyone in general tempted by drugs is weak minded.
Without trying to be rude to you that is.

I take it that you are including alcohol in that as well?

 

[skybluegod]

What issues relating to weed?

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- It has been associated with decreased motivation, and has been connected to increased absences and decreased work performance.

Affect on social life and cognitive abilities:
-leading to problems with memory,
-slowed reaction times,
-anxiety and panic attacks especially in large doses
-as well as social and interpersonal deficits

It also has physical disadvantages which include:
-a suppressed immune system
-respiratory problems stemming from the fact that marijuana contains greater amounts of tars than those found in tobacco smoke,
- contains carcinogens that lead to cancer ---Chronic use of weed can also reduce fertility and sexual potency in men and women
-There is a clinically significant relationship between reductions of marijuana use and reduction in depression among young women (ages 18-25). Depression is the most common mental illness for young adults, particularly for young women, and depressive symptoms were reduced in young women who reduced their use of cannabis.

 

[Sick Boy]

- It has been associated with decreased motivation, and has been connected to increased absences and decreased work performance.

Affect on social life and cognitive abilities:
-leading to problems with memory,
-slowed reaction times,
-anxiety and panic attacks especially in large doses
-as well as social and interpersonal deficits

It also has physical disadvantages which include:
-a suppressed immune system
-respiratory problems stemming from the fact that marijuana contains greater amounts of tars than those found in tobacco smoke,
- contains carcinogens that lead to cancer ---Chronic use of weed can also reduce fertility and sexual potency in men and women
-There is a clinically significant relationship between reductions of marijuana use and reduction in depression among young women (ages 18-25). Depression is the most common mental illness for young adults, particularly for young women, and depressive symptoms were reduced in young women who reduced their use of cannabis.

Do you feel the same way about alcohol? It is a much more destructive and powerful drug!

 

[skybluegod]

I take it that you are including alcohol in that as well?

As I say I don't drink so I don't see what you are getting at?

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

As I say I don't drink so I don't see what you are getting at?

Yeah.....but you have just mentioned you have worked in a pub......basically you worked for a drug dealer

 

[Macca]

Concept is good, would it work here I doubt it. Look at how this country uses the legal drug alcohol

 

[skybluegod]

Yeah.....but you have just mentioned you have worked in a pub......basically you worked for a drug dealer

I'm also in training, to join the Royal Navy that has a drinking culture?

But I didn't say it was weak minded to drink alcohol? Perhaps I should have been more specific in saying, that it's weak minded to do illegalised drugs.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

I'm also in training, to join the Royal Navy that has a drinking culture?

But I didn't say it was weak minded to drink alcohol? Perhaps I should have been more specific in saying, that it's weak minded to do illegalised drugs.

So alcoholics have an illness, but heroin addicts are just weak minded............allllrightyyy then.