torchomatic
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I know it makes me a coward but I really can't bare to see the victims. Really brings it home.
I know it makes me a coward but I really can't bare to see the victims. Really brings it home.Think they are naming some of the victims, it's even worse seeing innocent young kids in happy pictures
Or readers need to think before jumping to rediculous conclusions and throwing round the usual hate words.Again. This is where people need to specify it and be constructive then dont they?
I didn't know I had a gang. Cool.
At least we can all agree on that.I know it makes me a coward but I really can't bare to see the victims. Really brings it home.
so basically you are saying anyone who is a criminal should be in prison?I don't think anyone is against all migrants, or all Muslims for that matter.
The vast majority of both are decent hard working members of society.
However, there is undoubtedly a small minority who are like the "hate preacher" Abu Hamzer who seek to radicalise young men to carry out acts of terror.
It's these people who need to be caught and removed from our streets.
Unfortunately though, anyone who dares to speak out gets called racist or a bigot by people who some how think the comments made are aimed at ALL immigrants.
Let me make it perfectly clear, any one who lives in peace and works for their living and contributes to society is IMHO welcome.
But if they hate the west, and want to bomb people at concerts, attack our soldiers, rape our women, groom our teenagers, or stab our children to death then they need to be removed from society by any means possible.
I know it makes me a coward but I really can't bare to see the victims. Really brings it home.
People are using lazy tropes though. They are not saying there is a problem within the Muslim community. I think we all know thatI don't think anyone is against all migrants, or all Muslims for that matter.
The vast majority of both are decent hard working members of society.
However, there is undoubtedly a small minority who are like the "hate preacher" Abu Hamzer who seek to radicalise young men to carry out acts of terror.
It's these people who need to be caught and removed from our streets.
Unfortunately though, anyone who dares to speak out gets called racist or a bigot by people who some how think the comments made are aimed at ALL immigrants.
Let me make it perfectly clear, any one who lives in peace and works for their living and contributes to society is IMHO welcome.
But if they hate the west, and want to bomb people at concerts, attack our soldiers, rape our women, groom our teenagers, or stab our children to death then they need to be permanently removed from society by any means possible.
We live in dark times, too much hatred and killing in the world.Nobody disagrees with this apart from your first sentence.
Going on the streets to protest about migrants because of this event, lumping Muslims together in a block and suggesting they play the victim, wishing death on all Palestinians... they're fine examples of notalright.
Cool and the GangI didn't know I had a gang. Cool.
i feel the sameI know it makes me a coward but I really can't bare to see the victims. Really brings it home.
Well, just because people agree on a certain topic it doesn't mean they're in a gang.Really? I mean it's pretty obvious to anybody with eyes who has been around forums.
Or readers need to think before jumping to rediculous conclusions and throwing round the usual hate words.
It'd be a bloody big gang (you'd hope!) if it was a gang not liking racism.Well, just because people agree on a certain topic it doesn't mean they're in a gang.
Well, just because people agree on a certain topic it doesn't mean they're in a gang.
Do we have to report this one for it to be dealt with or is vigilante justice against minorities something that's ok?
He sounds like just the kind of person we should welcome with open arms.People are using lazy tropes though. They are not saying there is a problem within the Muslim community. I think we all know that
When you make sweeping statements like Muslims are a problem, you are asking for trouble.
No-one is defending bad people. I don't want them over here as much as the next person
But it's unfair to make these sweeping generalisations.
One reason I always come to the defence is, as I said before, one of my best friends is a Muslim. I also said I worked with someone, who was a top bloke and fought for the British army. Again, Muslim.
Plus, my missus' boss is a Muslim. He came over here on a boat many years ago, with nothing. He was welcomed in and has gone in to forge a good career and a healthy business.
And get this, he says he will forget be grateful for what the British did for him and he gives money to charity every week and once a week, takes the day off and goes and helps out at a soup kitchen, feeding the homeless.
Do people want him out too?
Its not about the different opinion, it's how you put it across.seriously!!. for having a different opinion to most on here, not bending to woke brigade like you lot are.
you lot have me down as a racist, you couldn't be further from the truth, i could do more for this country in one day than this and the previous government have done in 15 years because i care about this country and my family and what sort of shithole we are going to leave them.
Genuine question, what can you do that is more than the government can do?seriously!!. for having a different opinion to most on here, not bending to woke brigade like you lot are.
you lot have me down as a racist, you couldn't be further from the truth, i could do more for this country in one day than this and the previous government have done in 15 years because i care about this country and my family and what sort of shithole we are going to leave them.
And this particular 'debate' isn't even left Vs right!This "gang" thing just doesn't float for me.
1) It would be weird if on the forum of a team who play in a city with a a massive majority Labour council, 3 Labour MPs with 5 figure majorities and a strong union presence there was not a majority of people with left leaning views
2) The left are the first to tear each other down.
Good pointThis is what I have said multiple times. There needs to be a middle ground discussion.
"Muslims are terrorists"
"Anybody who agrees with Tommy Robinson on something is a racist"
Its just not constructive, is it? I get that people might assume that other people can read their mind when they say "immigrants" but if it's clearly specified then there's no chance for the reply to be "my doctor is an immigrant".
Otis summed it up better about how being clearer helps.
It really does . Sweeping statements can often be dangerous.This is what I have said multiple times. There needs to be a middle ground discussion.
"Muslims are terrorists"
"Anybody who agrees with Tommy Robinson on something is a racist"
Its just not constructive, is it? I get that people might assume that other people can read their mind when they say "immigrants" but if it's clearly specified then there's no chance for the reply to be "my doctor is an immigrant".
Otis summed it up better about how being clearer helps.
it is seen as though even though you are right it really isn'tAnd this particular 'debate' isn't even left Vs right!
Just for the record I wasn't aiming the "leftist" comment at you.Well. It wasn’t from a leftie for a start ha ha
You obviously have misunderstood my post. Can’t be arsed to go over it
I'm hoping you mean vertically. Must have landed on his head!Have you tried hitting the streets from 30 feet?
And this particular 'debate' isn't even left Vs right!
seriously!!. for having a different opinion to most on here, not bending to woke brigade like you lot are.
you lot have me down as a racist, you couldn't be further from the truth, i could do more for this country in one day than this and the previous government have done in 15 years because i care about this country and my family and what sort of shithole we are going to leave them.
Yup and I am not the type to shout out racist at people.No it’s not helpful to call everyone you disagree with racist.
Somehow though the actual racists have decided that that includes them and they spout the most horrible racist shit.
seriously!!. for having a different opinion to most on here, not bending to woke brigade like you lot are.
you lot have me down as a racist, you couldn't be further from the truth, i could do more for this country in one day than this and the previous government have done in 15 years because i care about this country and my family and what sort of shithole we are going to leave them.
all the problems in this country are migrant related, has been for years
what's boiling my piss is no picture of this c##t and the media are doing there best to smooth things over, when in reality we should be hitting the streets and driving home our feeling toward migrants and the government, this cannot go on
And that's him told. I bet he won't dare spout his hateful bullshit again.Its not about the different opinion, it's how you put it across.
I would suspect they could use the defence of self-defence, and their actions would probably be regarded by a reasonable person as being proportionate to the circumstances.I agree but sadly I wonder if they would have been charged.
Even the people who tried to stop it and got injured are heroes. You never know how many kids managed to get away because if them.
Absolutely, but the authorities need to find out how and where he got "moulded" and by whom and for what purpose.The horrific person he has turned into has been moulded in this country
I disagreed with Nick about being in a gang, but I'm more than happy to admit being in the "Woke Brigade".seriously!!. for having a different opinion to most on here, not bending to woke brigade like you lot are.
you lot have me down as a racist, you couldn't be further from the truth, i could do more for this country in one day than this and the previous government have done in 15 years because i care about this country and my family and what sort of shithole we are going to leave them.
And that's him told. I bet he won't dare spout his hateful bullshit again.
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