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There was no quote cited in that post.
There was no quote cited in that post.I thought the reference to Phillips was the Muslim comments which led him to be banned from the Labour Party
Terrorists have common strategies regardless of their ideology. If your first thought in reaction to Southport was ‘he’s a Muslim’, maybe it’s you that needs to do some introspection as well.Yes and people were arrested who had just converted to Islam who planned to carry out a terror attack. Aren't you just assuming he was Christian too?
Let's not pretend that people don't think things, rightly or wrongly. Look at the Manchester Arena Bombings, a security guard had a bad feeling but was too scared to do anything about it.
People will be judging others hundreds of times a day whether they mean to or not, based on loads of different factors.
Of course, if they start smashing things up based on it then it's completely different.
There was no quote cited in that post.
Let's not pretend that people don't think things, rightly or wrongly.
I think you'll find he did say it, but I'm not prepared to waste time digging around just to prove a point to what I assume to be a group of school sixth formers.
When it comes to mass stabbings in public places in Europe (and beyond), well yes, many such attacks are performed by Muslims in the name of Allah.
Terrorists have common strategies regardless of their ideology. If your first thought in reaction to Southport was ‘he’s a Muslim’, maybe it’s you that needs to do some introspection as well.
As the post is written anyone would believe they are the poster’s own views. A lazy attempt to tar people based on where they were born and to assume the religion of the attacker based on how he attacked.I think that’s semantics. Sultana and the anti semite Naz shah said his comments were racist and a stain on the party.
Just looking at Wikipedia- Nigerians are among the best performing student groups in the country. Numbers in private schools are growing and they outperform almost all other groups by 21.8%.
For you though they’re just “predisposed to fraud”. Which sums up the issue with people like you, you hurl stereotypes around in order to classify groups however you want to.
I get that you want to be a contrarian but you might want to think before going down this particular rabbit hole.It’s a growth industry in Nigeria
It’s a growth industry in Nigeria
I get that you want to be a contrarian but you might want to think before going down this particular rabbit hole.
That’s Nigeria, not the U.K. But you knew that didn’t you, and you’re now going to do your usual thing of being “contrary” for attention.
Noted for when you next think certain posters should be banned.Im not being anything. Saying Nigeria is one of the main countries for fraud I don’t believe is racist. I also have never believed saying grooming gangs are more likely to be Pakistani Muslims isn’t racist.
I think there is a fine line between freedom of expression and suppression as some find certain comments offensive - it’s often a subjective debate
He’s clearly suggesting that Nigerians in the U.K. are “predisposed to fraud”.Im not being anything. Saying Nigeria is one of the main countries for fraud I don’t believe is racist. I also have never believed saying grooming gangs are more likely to be Pakistani Muslims isn’t racist.
I think there is a fine line between freedom of expression and suppression as some find certain comments offensive - it’s often a subjective debate
He’s clearly suggesting that Nigerians in the U.K. are “predisposed to fraud”.
That’s not how I read it
That is different to ascribing different criminal acts to different nationalities seeking to live here.
The reality is that certain cohorts are predisposed to certain types of crime - Albanians seem to speciaise in weed farming, Nigerians fraud etc.
Romanians are a bit of a curved ball - not sure if they have a specific area, although Roma are considered a bit of a pain.
The Southport attack used an approach flavoured by Islamic militants, so people couldn't be blamed for jumping to conclusions. I still would not be too surprised if the attacker was a recent convert or had dabbled in some way.
Noted for when you next think certain posters should be banned.
Which appears to be a pretty regular occurrence
He is almost literally saying that Nigerian immigrants are predisposed to fraud.This is the quote. So my interpretation is Nigerians specialist crime is internet fraud which is what I’d have come up with if asked the question.
This is the quote. So my interpretation is Nigerians specialist crime is internet fraud which is what I’d have come up with if asked the question.
He is almost literally saying that Nigerian immigrants are predisposed to fraud.
Point being? What other conclusion are you meant to draw from what was posted?Nigerian national extradited from UK to face fraud charges
Ezennia Peter Neboh, 48, Kennedy Ikponmwosa, 51, and Prince Amos Okey Ezemma, 49, of Madrid, Spain; and Iheanyichukwu Jonathan Abraham, 44, Emmanuel Samuel, 39, and Jerry Chucks Ozor, 43, of London, face federal charges in Miami.www.ice.gov
I find it really baffling that people claim they don't have instant thoughts and assumptions about things.
Again, what people think is up to them.
That's very different to posting racial stereotypes on here.
If people want to have those thoughts then fine, but keep it to themselves or share it with other knuckle draggers on X. We don't want to see it on here.
Surely you can see the difference?
As I mentioned I this thread before there’s a significant population of Albanians in Italy as they’ve been migrating here for decades and they absolutely aren’t over represented in the prison numbers. They’re normal people working and paying taxes like me and you.In fairness, Nigeria is one of the most fraudulent countries in the world. On the same list is actually Romania. Both those countries along with Albania have an overrepresented prison population in the UK. If you split it by religion there's also some interesting statistics.
I don't see why we can't talk about this normally and acknowledge these statistics, rather than doing the whole extreme opinions thing. Either painting everybody from one place as one thing on one side, or calling people racist on the other for talking about it. There's never any middle ground and it turns the forum into a playground.
'I think we should get rid of Kasey Palmer' isn't quite in the same realm as 'Nigerian immigrants are predisposed to fraud' but your contrarian mind of course already knows that.So if anyone is offended by anything someone puts on here it should be removed?
As I mentioned I this thread before there’s a significant population of Albanians in Italy as they’ve been migrating here for decades and they absolutely aren’t over represented in the prison numbers. They’re normal people working and paying taxes like me and you.
'I think we should get rid of Kasey Palmer' isn't quite in the same realm as 'Nigerian immigrants are predisposed to fraud' but your contrarian mind of course already knows that.
As I mentioned I this thread before there’s a significant population of Albanians in Italy as they’ve been migrating here for decades and they absolutely aren’t over represented in the prison numbers. They’re normal people working and paying taxes like me and you.
It’s a tiny percentage of the population. I’ve posted the figures on here before.Well.
Albanian organized crime groups have become key players in Italy’s criminal landscape, prompting targeted operations from authorities.
Albanian criminal groups in Italy have evolved from small-time criminals to significant players in certain illicit economies, such as cocaine and cannabis trafficking. These groups have expanded their area of operations from large cities such as Rome to smaller towns and rural communities...riskbulletins.globalinitiative.net
Thoughts yes, assumptions not so much. Thoughts are human nature, I agree there.I find it really baffling that people claim they don't have instant thoughts and assumptions about things.
One of the very first thing that gets checked is a location of something when we are digging into things because 95-100% of the time it is particular countries trying dodgy shit.
It's just the same as the security guard in Manchester who had a gut feeling but was too scared to act on it because he would be labelled. I am pretty sure people make assumptions based on how I look if I am in particular situations, it's normal.
How many people would have racial profiled in their head with their thoughts about getting on a flight after 9/11?
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