ccfcway
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"Ian rush says if I don't drink my milk, I'll only be good enough to play for Accrington Stanley"
"Accrington Stanley, who are they"
"dunno, but they beat Coventry in league 2 last week"
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"Ian rush says if I don't drink my milk, I'll only be good enough to play for Accrington Stanley"
"Accrington Stanley, who are they"
"dunno, but they beat Coventry in league 2 last week"
AVWskyblue
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It was Accrington Stanley's chairman, even though the pl threatened to pull funding etc as you say he's still complaining and asking for an enquiry
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NortonSkyBlue
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I can't get indignant about this story and I wish the lad well should he go to Stoke. What does make me shake my head is how low we have become in the food chain of the football league over the past years. We can bitch about how it isn't fair or right but like with SISU there is absolutely nothing we can do about it that will affect the outcome.
If he is on 480 per month he will on the salary of many teenagers and if he is living at home I am sure that is fine but lets be honest at 3k a week and the chance to secure his future then its a no brainer.
I just wish we hadn't plummeted so far that we are in this position.
If he is on 480 per month he will on the salary of many teenagers and if he is living at home I am sure that is fine but lets be honest at 3k a week and the chance to secure his future then its a no brainer.
I just wish we hadn't plummeted so far that we are in this position.
eastwoodsdustman
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£3k a week and not playing at all though. It would be a backward step for any young player to join a premier league club at the moment. For Every Dele Ali there are twenty Alex Nimley's (I know there was only ever one Alex Nimley In Nicks eyes). Youngsters are starting to get better advised and are staying with their clubs longer and gaining more experience. If they are good enough they'll still get their chance in time.
Nick
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There was more than one, there was the one who went in big brother.
ccfcway
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I was told about this last week so it's definitely true, although I don't know how much he has been offered. The 18's that have been offered their pro contract have only been offered 1 year deals at £200 per week apparently, so for him not to accept the offer from stoke is pretty risky if he is being offered around £3000pw for the next couple of years. I was also told (Although I'm not sure if it is true) that Camwell only played in the last league game to up the fee Coventry would receive in compensation if he was to leave on a free.
ccfcway
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lucky for us then that Haynes and Stokes were injured as well
shmmeee
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Are tribunals just a flat fee or can they involve payments for games played or sell on clauses?
Seems like we get stuffed for peanuts whatever so it's worth the gamble to a PL club to hoover up talent and we get nothing. The whole system needs looking at, better for everyone is young players can learn their trade and prove themselves without having to choose between their craft and their back pocket. Really perverse incentives.
Seems like we get stuffed for peanuts whatever so it's worth the gamble to a PL club to hoover up talent and we get nothing. The whole system needs looking at, better for everyone is young players can learn their trade and prove themselves without having to choose between their craft and their back pocket. Really perverse incentives.
Ranjit Bhurpa
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Surely I saw a report this week stating that Pogba's agent received £41m for negotiating his transfer to Man Utd.
If true, it's about time all of these hangers on associated with the game particularly at this level are told where to go.
Do modern players and close family and advisors not have the ability to negotiate their own deals without bringing in these leeches and also spot when their leg is being lifted? Too many snouts in the trough.
And the Premier League would do well to remember we have a professional set up of 92 clubs, not just an elite band of 20 with an ever widening gap.
I applaud the comments from the Accrington owner and I hope his concerns are taken seriously.
Ranjit Bhurpa
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I saw a handful of Accrington's games last season and yes, they would have been very capable of beating us 2-0.
Yes Shmmeee we get a set fee up front and then stage payments dependant on how long we've had him etc,how many games he plays for them.
The scale increases the longer that Is I think.
But they can get round that by loopholes like loaning him out I think.
I really think this lad has the potential to become a Stuart Pearce type left back.
Really would hope he'd resist an offer but I don't think he'll become a no one who just takes the money, but will take the money and succeed.
Brighton Sky Blue
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How can clubs make these calls on players who've virtually never played league football? It's incredible how PL clubs just hoover up a whole batch of youngsters on the cheap on the off chance that one might turn out, and they've got the TV backing to do it.
Their reply to the Accrington chairman to the effect of 'how about we take away your solidarity payments and see if you like that' showed all you need to know about them. They are more powerful than the FA, and what good have they done our national team? What good have they done for English clubs in Europe? All of this money from Sky and BT and the best we can do is get Leicester in the CL quarter final.
Their reply to the Accrington chairman to the effect of 'how about we take away your solidarity payments and see if you like that' showed all you need to know about them. They are more powerful than the FA, and what good have they done our national team? What good have they done for English clubs in Europe? All of this money from Sky and BT and the best we can do is get Leicester in the CL quarter final.
robbiekeane
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I wish I could like this twice
robbiekeane
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I get your point but it's risk management. For every calum Wilson there are also hundreds of Shaun Jeffers (there's probably a better example).
It's a 3 year contact worth half a million guaranteed, versus an outside chance of making it big in the game
AFCCOVENTRY
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I didn't realise he was that hot a prospect?
Plenty of youth players move and never make it at PL clubs but their salaries go up and they have hope of breaking into a PL team one day.
Fact is we are a L2 club and no where near being in the premiership. Can't blame him if he goes.
Plenty of youth players move and never make it at PL clubs but their salaries go up and they have hope of breaking into a PL team one day.
Fact is we are a L2 club and no where near being in the premiership. Can't blame him if he goes.
SlowerThanPlatt
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Very highly rated. Excellent at set pieces too. Like wingy said he's very in the Stuart Pearce mould, bit of an edge to his game but sure that can be managed.
Sky Blue Harry H
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I haven't even seen him play yet - how sad is it that we are producing players that we can't even hold onto long enough for 95+% of us to see them even kick a ball in anger!
thekidfromstrettoncamp
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You will know who they are next season. They will probably put your comment up on their dressing room wall. In case you don't know they are a mid table team in league 2 gates of less than 2000 pay no transfer fees (no agents fees) and will probably give us a darn good game when we play them. If it was tongue in cheek be careful this comment might come back to haunt you
SBAndy
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Fuck me you've lived a sheltered life.
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Warwickhunt
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Stop giving my job away!
thekidfromstrettoncamp
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Post 56 I do post 57 don't worry about me lasted 70 years so far but A .C. have far better idea how to run a football club than our shower on one third of our attendances.
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thekidfromstrettoncamp
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At my age I wish it was only the point I missed. Like it
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Yup. The more who leave for next to nothing, the less point there is having an academy to do other clubs' work for them, really.
Somerset Sky Blue
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Just for the youngsters out there, an advert for milk in the 80s had two boys drinking milk, saying," Ian Rush says drink milk or I can play for Accrington Stanley," response - "who are they?" other boy replied,"exactly.". Hence some of the thread comments... Oh, I wish I'd posted a link to the advert!
ccfcway
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you might need to explain who Ian Rush is
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covcity4life
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I remmeber i was sad when rush retired as it was the begining of players i know leaving the game. First time experience for me as a kid
Players come and go of course but back then it felt like footall would never be the same again lol.
Firstly, where did anyone get the 3k a week figure from? Secondly, why the heck wouldn't he move. He will become a premiership player. They'll likely loan him out to a league 1 club. We have also offered contracts to two other left backs so he'd most likely get loaned to Nuneaton. It's a no brainer
fernandopartridge
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Utter bollocks never mind the huge whoosh
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SlowerThanPlatt
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Believe this ones done. Now following Stoke U23 players + Stoke accounts on Twitter which is normally the first sign of a move you can get as a fan unless you're ITK.
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A like for the evidence, rather than the result!