Summer transfer window 2024 (14 Viewers)

djr8369

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My main concern is the club’s long term future and what happens if we don’t get promoted within the next 4 seasons. I don’t think here’s here beyond that time.
He’s made it quite clear he will get the club as close to sustainable as he can. The more successful that process is the more attractive prospect it will be and he should be able to offload for a considerable profit.

I don’t think not getting promoted within the 5 year plan is the disaster it’s being made out to be.
 

djr8369

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That’s the point? People like @Saddlebrains are being hammered for daring to criticise King or make these question

if the concerns come to fruition - we’re literally no better off than we were with SISU.

we’ve been here before, let’s at least learn from the past
Nobody is being hammered. The list of criticisms saddle listed earlier in the thread were pretty nonsensical and he’s been rightly picked up on that.
 

HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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He’s made it quite clear he will get the club as close to sustainable as he can. The more successful that process is the more attractive prospect it will be and he should be able to offload for a considerable profit.

I don’t think not getting promoted within the 5 year plan is the disaster it’s being made out to be.
There’s a lot Riding in it all being in place in 5 years - all the players contracts are 5 years, the arena lease is 5 years.

it’s not so much getting promoted or not - it’s what’s gonna happens when our lease runs out, and there’s a chance nobody will want to buy us… which will leave us in the same place we were when SISU figured they didn’t want to plug losses.

as you said it’s hypothetical, in the immediate time he’s done no wrong - but it’s only a matter of time until budgets start to get cut…. Pretty much like they did around 2011/2012 and we all know what happened then
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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none of them are making grand statements and targets of being in the top 6 in 3/5 seasons

How many clubs have a lease running out in 4 years?

Like I said. At the moment King is doing alright, the infrastructure is getting investment, and we’re acting more professional and a more premier outfit. but there’s a lot of legitimate worries about King and his plans

Equally, there’s a sense that a lot of people are looking for negatives that aren’t necessarily there. Yes, a novice to the industry has made some slight mistakes in his first season, but the club is generally moving in the right direction. Personally, the way Darragh MacAnthony spoke about him gave me confidence that we’re in good hands. Compare that to Wolves viewed our dealings when SISU first came in.

There’s healthy scepticism and then borderline conspiracy theories.

Generally, there’s a lot of naïveté when it comes to football club owners. Even Abramovic loaned billions to Chelsea, these rich people aren’t stupid and rarely spend own money directly.
 

shmmeee

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As people have mentioned here, if we really were in the bidding at ~8-9M for Rollheiser that would indicate that we still have cash to spend without waiting for 3rd party sales (Hamer/Vik) sales or selling Sheaf. If you assume EMC cost half that fee, that leaves around 4M left.

I would suspect we want to invest 2-3x this summer, so hopefully we can do that without depending on sales. I am not convinced Vik goes anywhere - the # of teams who can afford him and have qualified for CL next season is pretty damn small and unless Sporting's coach Amorim moves, I suspect he may stay and get an improved deal.

Is there any evidence at all we really were in at that price for Rollheiser?
 

junglej13

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Is there any evidence at all we really were in at that price for Rollheiser?
Andy Turner seemed to think the interest was real. Minor point but the apparent bid was £6m going up to £9m on promotion. Might hint at probably just shy of £2m still being available from the Hamer cash if EMC was £4.25m.
 

shmmeee

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Andy Turner seemed to think the interest was real. Minor point but the apparent bid was £6m going up to £9m on promotion. Might hint at probably just shy of £2m still being available from the Hamer cash if EMC was £4.25m.

Was this after we’d signed Torp as well? Sorry I can’t remember the details.

by my rough count we’ve spent the Vik and Gus count but the margin of error on fees both ways is huge so who knows
 

junglej13

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Was this after we’d signed Torp as well? Sorry I can’t remember the details.

by my rough count we’ve spent the Vik and Gus count but the margin of error on fees both ways is huge so who knows
Yeah after Torp. Like you say hard to gage how much of those sales fees were spent.
 

ProfessorbyGrace

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Wow what a knob
No context to verify the man’s grievance and he’s ‘a knob’?

Sounds like a genuine grievance to me, and since he mentioned ‘needs’, I’m deducing that the club isn’t honouring concessions for special needs kids/disabled kids, or something similar.

If that’s the case, it’s a pretty low blow.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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No context to verify the man’s grievance and he’s ‘a knob’?

Sounds like a genuine grievance to me, and since he mentioned ‘needs’, I’m deducing that the club isn’t honouring concessions for special needs kids/disabled kids, or something similar.

If that’s the case, it’s a pretty low blow.
Grievance is without doubt legitimate
Going on social media and saying you will not be buying etc etc etc etc etc is the knobbish thing
Why not change the clubs decision or at least try
 

ProfessorbyGrace

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Grievance is without doubt legitimate
Going on social media and saying you will not be buying etc etc etc etc etc is the knobbish thing
Why not change the clubs decision or at least try
Well, it does sound like he’s been in communication with the club, and he stated quite emphatically that their response was ‘shameful’. 🤷‍♂️

Not what I would class as a knob, myself, just someone venting on social media. He sounds like a father who loves his team, but has been let down by the club.

I’d be interested to learn the actual details of his grievance, and if the club has indeed cut concessions for special needs kids etc.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Well, it does sound like he’s been in communication with the club, and he stated quite emphatically that their response was ‘shameful’. 🤷‍♂️

Not what I would class as a knob, myself, just someone venting on social media. He sounds like a father who loves his team, but has been let down by the club.

I’d be interested to learn the actual details of his grievance, and if the club has indeed cut concessions for special needs kids etc.
Good challenge I’ll ask
The answer I’ve seen is them coming in line with other organisations
 

MalcSB

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I've wondered on this is the value set by a tribunal?

Is there anything to stop the two teams saying in the contract the player being swapped was worth £5m or so? Then if both teams have sell on clauses they both benefit.
I’m not sure that would do their accounts any favours.
 

JoeCCFCPUSB

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In all seriousness Rudoni is being linked quite a lot
His stats are shite but every time we have played Hudds recently he has certainly passed the eye test. At times when we played Hudds it looked like a one man show, he is 22 averages a goal involvement at about 1 in 6 games, in an absolute shite team. You put him in our squad with the coaching, players and Robins i think the goal involvement would be 1 in 3.
 

Matt smith

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His stats are shite but every time we have played Hudds recently he has certainly passed the eye test. At times when we played Hudds it looked like a one man show, he is 22 averages a goal involvement at about 1 in 6 games, in an absolute shite team. You put him in our squad with the coaching, players and Robins i think the goal involvement would be 1 in 3.
I like him and has always been their best player but that’s not hard

key is whether he can get a proper end product, we don’t need another number 10 who’s very good on the eye but doesn’t contribute enough when it matters in terms of goals and assists, we have one already

but overall I’d be happy with rudoni
 

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