SkyblueBazza
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I went 'Politics' & 'Brexit'...just before I posted.
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I went 'Politics' & 'Brexit'...just before I posted.Did you look under the politics section? It’s slid down the politics page as the day went on but when I first read it at lunchtime yesterday it was one of the lead stories at the top of the page.
I went 'Politics' & 'Brexit'...just before I posted.
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Considering that May was supposed to be a safe choice and was a dead cert to destroy Corbyn, I think Johnson has even less chance. He’d be a liability waiting to happen.
I have to say though that it confirms one of my theories about brexit snowflake righties. Unless it’s got a big picture with the headline it either isn’t true or never existed. I’m getting the impression that righty snowflakes conspiracy theories around BBC impartiality or lack there of is based on not being intelligent enough to read any headline that isn’t accompanied by a picture. Hence they rely on Facebook for “news” and end up forming opinions on bullshit promoted by people with a vested interest in getting people to believe said bullshit. Dangerous times.
Well I scrolled down - didn't see itIt had been up for 9 hours at the point you made your post. Still on the politics home page now. Currently seventh story down https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics
Ah well...suspecting that might be a slant at me. 1. I don't think I am a rightie
2. I don't think I am a snowflake
3. I generally defend the BBC as impartial - though also think there is occasion when it quite clearly not - e.g. how many rightie vs leftie comedians get airplay? 10 people killed in the US in some event gets big airtime, same in Pakistan...gets a mention for a few hrs
4. I don't do facebook
5. I wonder how many of those slants could be turned back onto yourself & many others?
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You definitely come across as being up your own arseIt wasn’t completely a slant at you more a general observation of those who sell the conspiracy theory of media, BBC especially, conspiracy theories. You get American political commentators tell Andrew Neil that he’s a liberal lefty because he works for the BBC, you get David Davies claiming on question time that the panel always favours remainers and as Dimbleby told him the opposite is in fact true and by some distance, you get the brexit ltd panel member just last week trying the same line and again being corrected by Fiona Bruce, you get Tommy believers believing that he’s exposing pedophiles because the media isn’t when 10 seconds on google shows you that the media was covering the story long before Tommy jumped on the band wagon and he even admits in court that he knew the details were in the public domain despite claiming otherwise on his live feeds. People are sleep walking into being far right and don’t even realise it to the point of denial and the major cause seems to be a lack of attention to detail on their own behalf or an eagerness to believe things at face value from questionable sources without considering fact checking.
1. I don’t think I’m a lefty, in fact my voting history suggests I’m centre right. Been pretty much a Tory voter most my life.
2. I don’t think I’m a snowflake. Merely capable of reading the BBC homepage in detail so don’t go off making assumptions.
3. The BBC is impartial. Just because it isn’t telling you what you want to hear doesn’t make it otherwise. The comedy world is heavily slanted to the left full stop. Righties just don’t have a sense of humour. There’s the odd exception like Geoff Northcott who’s a regular on the Mash Report but righties are a minority in comedy. The fact that this is then represented on the BBC actually demonstrates impartiality perfectly, it’s the reality of it. Lowering the numbers of lefties to equal that out is a dangerous direction to go in.
4. I don’t blame you, I don’t either.
5. Up to you.
I'm interested to know why you think Raab can deliver Brexit - he was Brexit Secretary. Agreed the deal with the EU and then voted AGAINST a deal he was specifically employed to do.No I don’t rate him Clint, in fact I never believed he could become PM but it does now look the probable outcome.
On the basis that he or Raab are most likely to deliver Brexit and have the best chance of keeping Corbyn out of no.10, they’d be my choice from a pathetic bunch.
The EU is run by a bunch of washed up political lightweights and supported by the likes of the feeble Macron, so criticism from that quarter counts for nothing.
May was a pallet cleanser. Nothing else.
No I don’t rate him Clint, in fact I never believed he could become PM but it does now look the probable outcome.
On the basis that he or Raab are most likely to deliver Brexit and have the best chance of keeping Corbyn out of no.10, they’d be my choice from a pathetic bunch.
The EU is run by a bunch of washed up political lightweights and supported by the likes of the feeble Macron, so criticism from that quarter counts for nothing.
I’m not sure where this notion that he can keep Corbyn out of No 10 comes from. He’s a divisive character. He divides the sitting government, he won’t necessarily divide the Tory membership but he certainly divides the country. If anything he makes Corbyn more likely to get in to No 10. In coalition with the Lib Dem’s would be my guess with a second referendum being what makes a coalition possible.
You definitely come across as being up your own arse
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Why would remain be in any vote? No deal or the new PM's deal it would be
Bloody hell, what's happened to the one man German propoganda machine ? Berchtesgaden holiday season already ?
Absolutely. But I'll take that above being unable to actually construct a simple sentence. Oh the irony. You are absolute class. Did you do O level English ?Spelling another one of weaknesses?
You definitely come across as being up your own arse
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Blimey...you got all that from one simple single comment? Especially aimed at someone who is doing precisely the type of thing you refer to? (Which is what prompted my comment btw)So sick of seeing this.
Someone explains clearly and with evidence why they believe what they believe. Is met with “you’re patronising” or “you’re up yourself”.
Sorry, but how exactly do you go about telling someone they’re evidently terrible at navigating the modern media landscape without implying they’re a bit thick?
I’m sorry not everyone is capable of telling truth from fact online, but clearly they’re not and it’s doing significant damage to the country.
What do you do when someone is so clearly wrong? And not in a “oh you’re right and I’m left” but just in a “you’re talking utter nonsense” way.
And the fact that anyone pointing this out is immediately presumed to be left wing is frankly hilarious.
But you are up your own arse. Anyone who has been on this thread can clearly see that. It's surely an accolade you've been yearning for.What a dumb comment.
Lib dems and a Jeremy Corbyn labour, good god we'd be fuckedI’m not sure where this notion that he can keep Corbyn out of No 10 comes from. He’s a divisive character. He divides the sitting government, he won’t necessarily divide the Tory membership but he certainly divides the country. If anything he makes Corbyn more likely to get in to No 10. In coalition with the Lib Dem’s would be my guess with a second referendum being what makes a coalition possible.
Lib dems and a Jeremy Corbyn labour, good god we'd be fucked
If that was the case, you'd think / hope that Labour and the Lib Dems would sort out some kind of pact not to stand against each other... if Labour actually end up making a decision on what to do of course, and went full-remain.GE it is then.
Just watching C4 news and they had an official Hungarian Government spokesman (sorry didn’t get his name) and he confirmed that not even Hungry will be pushing for renegotiations of the withdrawal agreement. So basically the withdrawal agreement can’t get through parliament, no deal can’t get through Brexit, there is no magical renegotiation unless the government bring something else to the table. GE it is then.
If that was the case, you'd think / hope that Labour and the Lib Dems would sort out some kind of pact not to stand against each other... if Labour actually end up making a decision on what to do of course, and went full-remain.
They won't, of course, they'll knock votes off one another and let the other goons win.
No deal would as it’s a default position with no agreed extension
Just watching C4 news and they had an official Hungarian Government spokesman (sorry didn’t get his name) and he confirmed that not even Hungry will be pushing for renegotiations of the withdrawal agreement. So basically the withdrawal agreement can’t get through parliament, no deal can’t get through Brexit, there is no magical renegotiation unless the government bring something else to the table. GE it is then.
We won the war and a great British empire swept all before it. We just need to do it again. Beggars belief we think we can do this again as if it was some halcyon days with no victims
Ridiculous...but (especially in light of your response to my 'head up your own arse' comment suggesting you were sick of this kind of thing) you have to be balanced. Both sides have them...Aside from anything else, the world has changed. It’s not about the biggest army/navy any more.
Had this debate with a “super patriotic” Brexiter. Pointed out how we wield soft power and punch well above our weight doing so and how leaving the EU will leave us weaker at our key strength.
He actually went “no ones ever explained it like that before” :banghead:
We won the war and a great British empire swept all before it. We just need to do it again. Beggars belief we think we can do this again as if it was some halcyon days with no victims
Aside from anything else, the world has changed. It’s not about the biggest army/navy any more.
Had this debate with a “super patriotic” Brexiter. Pointed out how we wield soft power and punch well above our weight doing so and how leaving the EU will leave us weaker at our key strength.
He actually went “no ones ever explained it like that before” :banghead:
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